Venting Never thought I would ever be suicidal - People needed to be educated on this topic in schools.

[dyingalone123]

I never thought I would ever be suicidal until I started to develops anxiety, depression and then insomnia which did me in. Some chronic pain to boot on top of this BS and dumb family dynamics

They need to teach the complexity of suicide in schools. It's not a simple case of - I give up, I just wanna die.

It can happen to anyone. I never thought I could be a suicidal person till now.

 

[luckycharms101]

They never tell you how easily it can hit. Slowly things pile up, and you keep pushing through telling youself you can handle it, until that tiny little thought pushes through the positive attitude. Like, one moment I was just eating and then suddenly I realized I wanted to die. And once that little thought is planted in your head it is impossible to erase. It can vanish for a few months, but it will be back, and each time it is harder and harder to ignore. I went from thinking it here and there to suddenly being swallowed up and consumed by the thoughts. I can't even read a book or watch a show without zoning out and thinking about it.

 

[czx85]

If chickens in your farm pen kill themselves, then who is gonna produce eggs and meat?
We are all capitalist's livestocks. Ending our life is a no-no for them.

 

[motel rooms]

They need to teach the complexity of suicide in schools.

They don't teach the complexity of anything in life in schools, that's what suffering is for...

 

[VoidDesirer22]

They never tell you how easily it can hit. Slowly things pile up, and you keep pushing through telling youself you can handle it, until that tiny little thought pushes through the positive attitude. Like, one moment I was just eating and then suddenly I realized I wanted to die. And once that little thought is planted in your head it is impossible to erase. It can vanish for a few months, but it will be back, and each time it is harder and harder to ignore. I went from thinking it here and there to suddenly being swallowed up and consumed by the thoughts. I can't even read a book or watch a show without zoning out and thinking about it.

I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think that thought is impossible to erase for certain individuals, at least I don't think it would always be a piercing. I think a lot of people are naturally adept at suppressing the thought of "dying might be best here.. huh?". I'm not other people so I cannot be certain, but I suspect this is the case.

The problem is when philosophically you also just want to die anyway. I can't stop believing that having kids is causing suffering as much as a religious person can't stop believing in God.

They don't teach the complexity of anything in life in schools, that's what suffering is for...

Suffering isn't so dignified that it is a teacher. A lot of suffering is banal and pointless and dry.

 

[tieiwi]

It's scary how fast things change. Years ago I would've never thought about joining a suicide forum, or look up different methods to use. Now I've actually bought stuff for my method. If I told all of this to my past self they wouldn't believe me. There definitely needs to be more discussion about suicide. Making it taboo and brushing it under the rug doesn't just magically erase it from society.

 

[motel rooms]

I can't stop believing that having kids is causing suffering as much as a religious person can't stop believing in God.

At least your belief is provable & rational.

 

[VoidDesirer22]

It's scary how fast things change. Years ago I would've never thought about joining a suicide forum, or look up different methods to use. Now I've actually bought stuff for my method. If I told all of this to my past self they wouldn't believe me. There definitely needs to be more discussion about suicide. Making it taboo and brushing it under the rug doesn't just magically erase it from society.

How far into the past wouldn't they believe you? I think I'd have to go back to preteens.

 

[dyingalone123]

It's scary how fast things change. Years ago I would've never thought about joining a suicide forum, or look up different methods to use. Now I've actually bought stuff for my method. If I told all of this to my past self they wouldn't believe me. There definitely needs to be more discussion about suicide. Making it taboo and brushing it under the rug doesn't just magically erase it from society.

I agree. Never have I ever thought I would join a suicide forum or look up different methods. Exactly - they need to talk about what causes people to become suicidal.

 

[tieiwi]

How far into the past wouldn't they believe you? I think I'd have to go back to preteens.

same probably preteens and some years into my highschool, in high school i was still sad but I never thought about actually acting on it, just felt like I was stuck with the feeling and I couldn't do anything about it, then I got a job lol

 

[motel rooms]

A lot of suffering is banal and pointless and dry.

Yes, it teaches you about the nature of life.

 

[VoidDesirer22]

same probably preteens and some years into my highschool, in high school i was still sad but I never thought about actually acting on it, just felt like I was stuck with the feeling and I couldn't do anything about it, then I got a job lol

Yeah I relate for sure. You only really come to the conclusion that it's quite permanent when you're at least 18... Hence the age restriction on this site.

 

[tieiwi]

Yeah I relate for sure. You only really come to the conclusion that it's quite permanent when you're at least 18... Hence the age restriction on this site.

which also sucks because turns out it wasn't me being some emo teenager going through puberty, when you become an adult it's like damn im forever going to be like this

 

[MelancholyMagic]

My guess is that educating people about suicide in schools would be undesirable for some (large) parts of the population.
The less people talk about suicide, the easier it is for a lot of normies. The 'problem' with suicide for normies is that it is actually a rational act (unlike the lies one often hears). The more suicide is talked about, the more normies will feel uneasy about reconciling its rationality with three billion years of evolution screaming "No! Don't do it!"

 

[FuneralCry]

Suicide is so stigmatised, many people live under a delusion that life is always worth living and therefore those who are suicidal are dismissed as always being irrational. Wanting suicide can be perfectly rational in a life like this. I think people can only comprehend what it is like, if they are suicidal themselves. No amount of teaching would be able to make them fully understand. However I believe that a young age, children should be taught about the all the harsh suffering in this world as living in ignorance can do no good.

 

[DiscT]

My guess is that educating people about suicide in schools would be undesirable for some (large) parts of the population.
The less people talk about suicide, the easier it is for a lot of normies. The 'problem' with suicide for normies is that it is actually a rational act (unlike the lies one often hears). The more suicide is talked about, the more normies will feel uneasy about reconciling its rationality with three billion years of evolution screaming "No! Don't do it!"

Ugh :(

Suicide is so stigmatised, many people live under a delusion that life is always worth living and therefore those who are suicidal are dismissed as always being irrational. Wanting suicide can be perfectly rational in a life like this. I think people can only comprehend what it is like, if they are suicidal themselves. No amount of teaching would be able to make them fully understand. However I believe that a young age, children should be taught about the all the harsh suffering in this world as living in ignorance can do no good.

This is very wise