People who have a shit life, nothing to live for or look forward are expected to never give up. Are you kidding me?? Rather off myself than have to spend decades hooked on strong drugs in order to function on a basic level.
I agree with you but for a different reason. CTB is not giving up -- it is taking a different path than the one I'm currently on. It is a CHOICE, not a failure, I don't care what the other side has to say about it. Let them walk a mile or so in my shoes and get back with me.
Grimscribe
In Defense of Non-Existence
- May 16, 2023
- 45
It is only seen as "giving up" by people who never did any research on the topic nor suffered from it. CTBing requires a lot of courage and strongwill.
KillingPain267
Enlightened
- Apr 15, 2024
- 1,298
Totally agree. At some point we simply have to accept defeat.
Yes sometimes knowing when to let go takes strength yet people see it as weak option
nihilistic_dragon
Dead already. Just need to dispose of my body now.
- Aug 6, 2024
- 639
I gave up just out of spite for those people XD
It's a narrow view point that doesn't apply to many people in this position.
Never give up implies there is some sort of end goal to reach. Right? Well the reason many of us are here, is because we don't see an end goal.
If you told me that I could regain what I had lost (literally impossible), but if you told me that I could, I would gladly stay. But that's not possible.
So what am I suppose to do then? Just suffer and work hard? I can proudly say that's exactly what I've done for the last 5 years.
I now make top 1% income. I moved to one of the best cities in the world. I got a girlfriend. Guess what, the original reason I became depressed is still the reason I'm depressed. Working my ass off despite my suffering has brought me objectively good things. But it really doesn't matter at all because I'm still severely depressed.
Never give up implies there is some sort of end goal to reach. Right? Well the reason many of us are here, is because we don't see an end goal.
If you told me that I could regain what I had lost (literally impossible), but if you told me that I could, I would gladly stay. But that's not possible.
So what am I suppose to do then? Just suffer and work hard? I can proudly say that's exactly what I've done for the last 5 years.
I now make top 1% income. I moved to one of the best cities in the world. I got a girlfriend. Guess what, the original reason I became depressed is still the reason I'm depressed. Working my ass off despite my suffering has brought me objectively good things. But it really doesn't matter at all because I'm still severely depressed.
Never give up can work, but only in cases where someone lives a happy and a normal life. Of course it is possible to follow an advice like this if you are a person like that.
However, what I do not like is when phrases like these are generalized and then offered to people in situations in which they could not possibly be followed as advice. And on top of that, words like these are offered by exactly the kind of people who do not understand or cannot imagine another person's horrible situation because they themselves are living a happy and a relatively comfortable life.
Yes, someone with a smile on their face can easily say to others never to give up, and no doubt would it work for them. But I would like to see such a person following their own advice if they got a horrible, everlasting and an unsolvable problem making their life unbearable every day.
However, what I do not like is when phrases like these are generalized and then offered to people in situations in which they could not possibly be followed as advice. And on top of that, words like these are offered by exactly the kind of people who do not understand or cannot imagine another person's horrible situation because they themselves are living a happy and a relatively comfortable life.
Yes, someone with a smile on their face can easily say to others never to give up, and no doubt would it work for them. But I would like to see such a person following their own advice if they got a horrible, everlasting and an unsolvable problem making their life unbearable every day.
ijustwishtodie
death will be my ultimate bliss
- Oct 29, 2023
- 4,846
I also don't understand that phrase at all. What's wrong with me giving up? I don't see why I should have to fight in the first place. Life is just a pointless, futile struggle all for us to die anyway so what's the point in fighting and being resilient when all there is in life is suffering and hardship? Of course people end up using that phrase since they've been indoctrinated to via lots of movies and shows that display people always being resilient but, fuck, it's just so pointless.
