Method Nembutal/dying/mechanism of action

[Arak]

After doing some reading ... sources (!) suggest that occurs through respiratory arrest.

Not cardiac arrest ? Well ... I know barbs act on the brain stem, important for breathing.

Something like suffocation, surviving with brain damage is not fun ... is more information available ?

 

[Lovemykids]

I order that too
I understand N will put you to sleep and go to coma stage and will slow down brain and breathing

So when you have respiratory attack you don't feel anything ? I assume following respirotory attack you will have cardiac arrest?

More info will be great
Watching those dignitas video does not prove much info

 

[InAust2]

I order that too
I understand N will put you to sleep and go to coma stage and will slow down brain and breathing

So when you have respiratory attack you don't feel anything ? I assume following respirotory attack you will have cardiac arrest?

More info will be great
Watching those dignitas video does not prove much info

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Pentobarbital#Mechanism_of_action

Overdose effects[edit]
A pentobarbital overdose is an amount taken in excess of that which is medically recommended. Two to ten grams can cause death. CNS and respiratory depression which may progress to Cheyne-Stokes respiration, areflexia, constriction of the pupils to a slight degree (though in severe poisoning they may show paralytic dilation), oliguria, tachycardia, hypotension, lowered body temperature, and coma. Typical shock syndrome (apnea, circulatory collapse, respiratory arrest, and death) may occur.

In extreme overdose, all electrical activity in the brain may cease, in which case a "flat" EEG normally equated with clinical death cannot be accepted. This effect is fully reversible unless hypoxicdamage occurs. Consideration should be given to the possibility of barbiturate intoxication even in situations that appear to involve trauma.

Complications such as pneumonia, pulmonary edema, cardiac arrhythmias, congestive heart failure, and renal failure may occur. Uremia may increase CNS sensitivity to barbiturates. Differential diagnosis should include hypoglycemia, head trauma, cerebrovascular accidents, convulsive states, and diabetic coma.

The dignitas videos are edited short, it does not show much. Just consumption then edited and the person dead.

Does anyone know if a person is aware during the coma stage after taking N?

Also does the person has convulsions taking N?

 

[worldexploder]

The dignitas videos are edited short, it does not show much. Just consumption then edited and the person dead.

Does anyone know if a person is aware during the coma stage after taking N?

Also does the person has convulsions taking N?

I did see one unedited version. Seemed sort of scarey for like 10 seconds....IF they didn't edit it any further. I never read anyone suffering from convulsions due to it. They basically pass out and then while in deep sleep, begin to die.

 

[Arak]

@InAust2 ,

I would not expect convulsions due to N being a strong anticonvulsant.

@worldexploder ,

Thanks for that video.

I think it is absolutely horrible. It didn't last long, but so undignified ! Coughing, labored breathing, thirst (why?), and what he mentally went through ! Then, what he mentally went through. The doctor had difficulty watching ! He must have had no tolerance.

Are there more vids/more experiences, even descriptions ?

Absolutely horrible. Quick and mostly painless, but those as your last moments ! I'm not sure what it would do to me.

 

[worldexploder]

@InAust2 ,

I would not expect convulsions due to N being a strong anticonvulsant.

@worldexploder ,

Thanks for that video.

I think it is absolutely horrible. It didn't last long, but so undignified ! Coughing, labored breathing, thirst (why?), and what he mentally went through ! Then, what he mentally went through. The doctor had difficulty watching ! He must have had no tolerance.

Are there more vids/more experiences, even descriptions ?

Absolutely horrible. Quick and mostly painless, but those as your last moments ! I'm not sure what it would do to me.

It was hard for me to watch as well. He was dying from motor neuron disease. That may have played a part. I still rather much go that way than by any other method. 10 seconds ain't nothing compared to what he would have gone though if he would have continued on living until he died from his illness.

 

[Chinaski]

He coughed once and was thirsty. That's hardly as bothersome as, say, throwing yourself under a train.

That also wasn't the doctor. That was Terry Pratchett, who made the documentary. I've noticed a significant number of your posts are decidedly anti N, this is fair enough l guess, but to describe that particular video as awful is a bit of a stretch.

(This is in reply to arak btw, world exploder posted a second before this one)

 

[worldexploder]

He coughed once and was thirsty. That's hardly as bothersome as, say, throwing yourself under a train.

That also wasn't the doctor. That was Terry Pratchett, who made the documentary. I've noticed a significant number of your posts are decidedly anti N, this is fair enough l guess, but to describe that particular video as awful is a bit of a stretch.

(This is in reply to arak btw, world exploder posted a second before this one)

My post? I'm strictly pro-N.

EDIT: i see now. Didn't read the last part.

He probably got something caught in his throat as he was falling asleep. I had coughing fits far far worse just by waking up with tobacco gunk in my lungs.

 

[Arak]

@Chinaski ,

I'm not anti N. It's about N and me. Obtaining it is another matter. Part is, I have a massive tolerance although not a barb tolerance.

I wonder what caused the thirst. He was quite insistent on drinking water. Delirium ?

I'm pro-choice. btw.

 

[worldexploder]

@Chinaski ,

I'm not anti N. It's about N and me. Obtaining it is another matter. Part is, I have a massive tolerance although not a barb tolerance.

20g is enough to take down a 2 large elephants. You should succeed.

 

[Chinaski]

@Chinaski ,

I'm not anti N. It's about N and me. Obtaining it is another matter. Part is, I have a massive tolerance although not a barb tolerance.

You regularly post links to articles saying things like "Look! 1 person here survived an N overdose! It's not what it's cracked up to be!", and are now linking to a very quick dignitas death with similar sentiment, I'm finding it a bit peculiar tbh.

 

[Arak]

@worldexploder ,

You may be right, but those elephants were not poisoned by prescription drugs ... (tolerance, damage).
Aside from other things, I have a massive K tolerance.

https://www.acnp.org/g4/GN401000173/CH169.html

 

[worldexploder]

@worldexploder ,

You may be right, but those elephants were not poisoned by prescription drugs ... (tolerance, damage).
Aside from other things, I have a massive K tolerance.

https://www.acnp.org/g4/GN401000173/CH169.html

I take 2 mils of Xanax a day. Both Xanax and Pentobarbital are barbitutes. The dosage they give at places like Dignitas are so high that I don't think it would matter how many bars of Xanax you take a day. I also never read a story of anyone surviving very high doses of N.

 

[Arak]

@worldexploder ,

Not to be a smartass, but Xanax is a benzodiazepine. I'm sure you know ?

 

[worldexploder]

@worldexploder ,

Not to be a smartass, but Xanax is a benzodiazepine. I'm sure you know ?

Sorry misread it. You're right. I got dyslexia so sometimes I misresd things. It's a Benzo. For some reason I read barbiturate.

 

[s_girl]

After doing some reading ... sources (!) suggest that occurs through respiratory arrest.

Not cardiac arrest ? Well ... I know barbs act on the brain stem, important for breathing.

Something like suffocation, surviving with brain damage is not fun ... is more information available ?

N causes CNS depression, so no cardiac arrest, just gradual slowing of the heart. Unless Dilantin is added, as per my post in the megathread.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/314790.php

There's a fair bit of information available about it on Google.