kane

kane

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Jun 26, 2020
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I think I'm still a long way from being ready to end it, but continuing on in this way long term seems untenable. I have no life, no friends, no connections. no job, and fairly crippling levels of social anxiety. I'm 32 (male). and I've essentially spent the last 15 years of my life isolating myself and avoiding people. Obviously that was never a smart choice, but I just couldn't take the way being around people makes me feel, and it never seemed to get better with exposure, no matter what I tried. Sooner or later I always felt the need to retreat from my engagement with the world, and cut ties. I probably fit the diagnosis for Avoidant Personality Disorder. I've been down most of the standard treatment routes and nothing really made a difference. I also have growing health issues, which leave me physically uncomfortable much of the time.

I can't claim to be a victim of this world. To be honest, I'm a bad person. Not a psychopath, but I've done things most would consider unforgivable. I've curbed that side of myself to some extent, but I can't see it ever really going away. Deep down I don't want it to, or at least not enough to change it. But a large part of me feels like I should kill myself purely from the shame of it. It's like I've irreversibly contaminated myself, and nothing can really make it right. I could cure cancer, and I would still just be the villain in someone else's story.

Despite all that, I'm still very much attached to the idea of a life. Even though I haven't really been alive all these years. I want to be free again - to be able to enjoy being around others without constant gnawing fear. I want connection, relationships, meaning, purpose, beauty. But looked at rationally, I see no real hope of that. This weight always hangs over me, holding me back.

I can't continue on like this indefinitely. I've been living frugally on money left to me by dying relatives (the only job I ever held was minimum wage), and it will run out. So I will have to make a choice, sooner or later. Will I try to find a way to function in this world, with all the pain that will bring me. Or will I finally put it all to an end.

I'm not sure I have it in me to take my own life. But I also can't face the alternative. Even if I somehow found a way to make a living and manage the constant anxiety, the idea of living out a normal lifespan like this, alone. cut off from everyone not just socially, but morally - it seems unbearable. How could I go on all those years, longing after dreams of a life I never had. It's only going to hurt more and more as the years go by.

But even if I could overcome my instinctive fear of death, my delusional attachments to life, my fears of hell etc, I'm still unsure it would be for the best. The thought of what it would do to my poor parents, who've invested so much in trying to help their fuckup of a son. It just seems unacceptable - to make them deal with that grief. I think their pain would honestly be worse than mine is now. But the alternative would mean sucking up my own suffering and somehow continuing with the anxiety and despair, at least until they're dead.

I really don't have a clue what I'm doing. I have this growing internal conviction that going on is pointless. that it's only going to get worse from here. But also this stubborn resistance to the realities that suicide would entail. I need to choose, one way or the other, and commit, rather than constantly going back and forth in my mind like I have been.
 
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GoneGoneGone

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I don't know where you live, but running out of money will probably force you to a decision imo
 
kane

kane

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Jun 26, 2020
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I don't know where you live, but running out of money will probably force you to a decision imo
I suppose I figure better to make the decision ahead of time, one way or another, and work towards it. Rather than end up desperate and panicking. I don't want to become homeless, but I worry I won't have the strength to end it if it comes to that.
 
Zhontafly

Zhontafly

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Jul 16, 2020
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There's probably going to be alot of empty apartments and homes soon (do to the covid crisis, fear mongering and over-reactive mania). if i didnt have all the problems I have with my health I wouldnt have fear of poverty cause ive already been there and pretty much am there. So what I would do is simply scrounge and squat in parks and empty houses. If they arrest me that would be fine to, as I would receive free room and eats.
 
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Notmadeforthislife

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Jul 12, 2020
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I'm conflicted as well. As much as I want to die I can't get myself to ctb. I tried partial suspension hanging, but as soon as I got close to passing out I stopped. All the fear and guilt held me back.
 
kane

kane

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Jun 26, 2020
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There's probably going to be alot of empty apartments and homes soon (do to the covid crisis, fear mongering and over-reactive mania). if i didnt have all the problems I have with my health I wouldnt have fear of poverty cause ive already been there and pretty much am there. So what I would do is simply scrounge and squat in parks and empty houses. If they arrest me that would be fine to, as I would receive free room and eats.
Gotta say that doesn't sound appealing. Depending on charity and the judgment of others would be hellish to me.
I'm conflicted as well. As much as I want to die I can't get myself to ctb. I tried partial suspension hanging, but as soon as I got close to passing out I stopped. All the fear and guilt held me back.
That's how I think it would be, if I ever made an attempt. I can't imagine having the conviction to finish it.
 
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Zhontafly

Zhontafly

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Jul 16, 2020
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Im not saying id depend on charity. The system forces you into prisons that are paid for by its citizens, thus making prisons corporate entities. Thats not my fault and to hell with them. Id be trying to do my best to survive for myself so if they find me in a stranded building and scrounging food asking for any left over food from markets and retaurants and want to arrest me and give me the free room and food, I say fuck it go ahead and give it to me assholes. They could give me the death penalty for it too and id be grateful! Dont go doing me any favors now western society authoritarian thug cretins (law enforcement)!
 
kane

kane

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Jun 26, 2020
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Im not saying id depend on charity. The system forces you into prisons that are paid for by its citizens, thus making prisons corporate entities. Thats not my fault and to hell with them. Id be trying to do my best to survive for myself so if they find me in a stranded building and scrounging food asking for any left over food from markets and retaurants and want to arrest me and give me the free room and food, I say fuck it go ahead and give it to me assholes. They could give me the death penalty for it too and id be grateful! Dont go doing me any favors now western society authoritarian thug cretins (law enforcement)!
You sound much stronger than me. Having to ask for food from strangers in order to survive would be gutting to me. Also prison would be hell for me. Better to die, I think. But I don't know if I'd have the resolve.
 
LADY007

LADY007

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Feb 25, 2020
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I think I'm still a long way from being ready to end it, but continuing on in this way long term seems untenable. I have no life, no friends, no connections. no job, and fairly crippling levels of social anxiety. I'm 32 (male). and I've essentially spent the last 15 years of my life isolating myself and avoiding people. Obviously that was never a smart choice, but I just couldn't take the way being around people makes me feel, and it never seemed to get better with exposure, no matter what I tried. Sooner or later I always felt the need to retreat from my engagement with the world, and cut ties. I probably fit the diagnosis for Avoidant Personality Disorder. I've been down most of the standard treatment routes and nothing really made a difference. I also have growing health issues, which leave me physically uncomfortable much of the time.

I can't claim to be a victim of this world. To be honest, I'm a bad person. Not a psychopath, but I've done things most would consider unforgivable. I've curbed that side of myself to some extent, but I can't see it ever really going away. Deep down I don't want it to, or at least not enough to change it. But a large part of me feels like I should kill myself purely from the shame of it. It's like I've irreversibly contaminated myself, and nothing can really make it right. I could cure cancer, and I would still just be the villain in someone else's story.

Despite all that, I'm still very much attached to the idea of a life. Even though I haven't really been alive all these years. I want to be free again - to be able to enjoy being around others without constant gnawing fear. I want connection, relationships, meaning, purpose, beauty. But looked at rationally, I see no real hope of that. This weight always hangs over me, holding me back.

I can't continue on like this indefinitely. I've been living frugally on money left to me by dying relatives (the only job I ever held was minimum wage), and it will run out. So I will have to make a choice, sooner or later. Will I try to find a way to function in this world, with all the pain that will bring me. Or will I finally put it all to an end.

I'm not sure I have it in me to take my own life. But I also can't face the alternative. Even if I somehow found a way to make a living and manage the constant anxiety, the idea of living out a normal lifespan like this, alone. cut off from everyone not just socially, but morally - it seems unbearable. How could I go on all those years, longing after dreams of a life I never had. It's only going to hurt more and more as the years go by.

But even if I could overcome my instinctive fear of death, my delusional attachments to life, my fears of hell etc, I'm still unsure it would be for the best. The thought of what it would do to my poor parents, who've invested so much in trying to help their fuckup of a son. It just seems unacceptable - to make them deal with that grief. I think their pain would honestly be worse than mine is now. But the alternative would mean sucking up my own suffering and somehow continuing with the anxiety and despair, at least until they're dead.

I really don't have a clue what I'm doing. I have this growing internal conviction that going on is pointless. that it's only going to get worse from here. But also this stubborn resistance to the realities that suicide would entail. I need to choose, one way or the other, and commit, rather than constantly going back and forth in my mind like I have been.
I know this doesn't solve it for you but believe me.. Your not alone. All people should be treated fairly and with the same amount of respect but to think we are, literally, created equally is absurd. This is a highly technical era. I am terrible at sitting at a computer all day. In my 20's..it was unbearable. I had so much energy.. I couldn't stand it. And.. I am basically an introvert. I can be very extroverted for just so long with no social anxiety and then I have to retreat. Some of us are just not built for certain things emotionally or physically. The real problem is many jobs provide enough money to live comfortably. Other ones do not. A person can be terrific at a certain activity but if it makes little money in the workplace.. They will have trouble surviving. This has been my dilemma all my life. I am guessing a number of people who contribute to this site have experienced this problem and it causes depression and anxiety. My point is.. I hurt just as you do.. from trying to fit in... hugs to you... I wish all of us luck in finding solutions.
 
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I know this doesn't solve it for you but believe me.. Your not alone. All people should be treated fairly and with the same amount of respect but to think we are, literally, created equally is absurd. This is a highly technical era. I am terrible at sitting at a computer all day. In my 20's..it was unbearable. I had so much energy.. I couldn't stand it. And.. I am basically an introvert. I can be very extroverted for just so long with no social anxiety and then I have to retreat. Some of us are just not built for certain things emotionally or physically. The real problem is many jobs provide enough money to live comfortably. Other ones do not. A person can be terrific at a certain activity but if it makes little money in the workplace.. They will have trouble surviving. This has been my dilemma all my life. I am guessing a number of people who contribute to this site have experienced this problem and it causes depression and anxiety. My point is.. I hurt just as you do.. from trying to fit in... hugs to you... I wish all of us luck in finding solutions.
Thank you. Fitting in is a big part of it. I know I can be hard-working and conscientious in a work environment. I'm fairly intelligent in some ways. It's dealing with the social stresses and uncertainties that I can't handle. With being perceived or judged by others.
 
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whywere

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I do NOT "fit in" with the ''normal" crowd at all. I to do not makea enough to live comfortably and it cause massive depression. Same as the last person, my point is I also hurt 24/7 as you do becasue I do not "fit in". Truly huge hugs to you and please know that you have friends here ALWAYS!
 
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Feb 25, 2020
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I do NOT "fit in" with the ''normal" crowd at all. I to do not makea enough to live comfortably and it cause massive depression. Same as the last person, my point is I also hurt 24/7 as you do becasue I do not "fit in". Truly huge hugs to you and please know that you have friends here ALWAYS!
Thank you for the hugs, whywere! I think many people here will relate to what we said. I also think many people contributing to this site are sensitive and prefer to be nice. Everyone I talk to has issues with nasty co-workers and the number of kids under 16 years old who have memorials to them because they ended their lives from bullying astonished me. Yes, there are very nice people out there but enough really mean ones to make me feel on guard too much of the time. More Hugs...thank you for your friendship.
 
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