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stargazer

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Nov 19, 2018
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Lazy post. Mods can delete if they wish but please no warning given.

I'm at a crossroads here people. Let's say I have a car. Downside is this car is going to be in public view let's say secluded but the risks are there for being interrupted/exposed.

Charcoal seemed good, but that's an hour to cook the thing just outside of the car, alone, not counting bringing it in and then locking the doors.

A tank is possible, but this is australia, and not sure about which would be suitable for the above to fill in exactly for the charcoal. Same setting, same car.

Any ideas? Please. Yes, you've smelled desperation right here.
 
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Made4TV

Made4TV

A hopeless hope junkie
Sep 17, 2018
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N in a car. Or firearm. Honestly there aren't many other "easy" options. If this option is really your last resort, you might have to just pick your method and do the work to figure out something that will work...meaning working through all the undesirable or problematic things in your mind. Like setting up something that looks like you're cooking yourself a barbecue. There has to be creative ways you can work around some of the obstacles. Is it possible for you to get an inert gas and make an exit bag? This is kind of the part where you need to do research and decide that if this is *really* what you want that you will do the work to make it happen.
 
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Jenna

Jenna

Experienced
Nov 21, 2018
234
I'm wondering about this too. Thought about exit bag in car and driving somewhere secluded. I wonder if the cold would get us too.
 
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OkTotti

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Nov 6, 2018
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why does this need to be in a car? how about a tent? or your bathroom at home?
 
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Sinbad

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Self-Annihilation is loading...95%
Nov 27, 2018
542
Speed up and crash against a wall. (avoid harming others)
 
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I see the chaos in your eyes.
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If you are going 90 mph and hit a concrete wall head on it is.
Hummmm I don't think my vehicle will even go that fast. You think there is no chance of survival at that speed or just a slim chance?
 
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Virgo

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Oct 3, 2018
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Hummmm I don't think my vehicle will even go that fast. You think there is no chance of survival at that speed or just a slim chance?

Here is a 120 mph crash(not 90, but it gives you a sense of how it would look)
 
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Well that looks painful enough.
 
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Kdawg2018

Kdawg2018

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Nov 10, 2018
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If you are going 90 mph and hit a concrete wall head on it is.

Where would you hit a wall irl? Like if you are on the freeway, there is just the walls on the side
 
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Where would you hit a wall irl? Like if you are on the freeway, there is just the walls on the side
I don't know where to hit a wall. Someone just died in a car accident here by running into a pole, I guess it is all just up to chance.
 
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Kdawg2018

Kdawg2018

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Nov 10, 2018
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I'm just thinking that there isnt anywhere near me where I would be able to line up a wall head on, my car would go fast enough though
 
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OkTotti

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Nov 6, 2018
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I've read that if you do plan on driving really really fast by car into a wall. You're survival instincts will inevitably kick in, and you'll tap the brakes before impact.... nothing is easy...
 
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I'm just thinking that there isnt anywhere near me where I would be able to line up a wall head on, my car would go fast enough though
Again, are you me? I was just thinking same thing, where's a wall....
 
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I've read that if you do plan on driving really really fast by car into a wall. You're survival instincts will inevitably kick in, and you'll tap the brakes before impact.... nothing is easy...
Maybe...tapping the breaks. I've also thought of having a gasoline can in my car and lighting a cigarette while crashing into the wall. Less chance of survival? Or just more misery if I did tap the breaks. Would it matter at that high of speed?
 
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TiredHorse

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Nov 1, 2018
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First order of business: don't wear a seatbelt. Your odds of survival drop drastically.
If you can disable the airbags, do so.
If you have an old, heavy vehicle --the kind rednecks proudly declare as having "real steel!" in them-- that improves your chances of ctb.
If you have an SUV, your odds of ctb improve, too.
An old SUV of "real steel!"? So much the better.

That said, it will almost certainly not be a peaceful or quick death.

25 years ago I was a firefighter/EMT in a rural district with icy mountain roads, and within the department I specialized in "vehicle extrication" (cutting people out of wrecked cars) and high/low angle rescue. I've cut a lot of people out of cars. Assuming seatbelts were being used, new cars were astonishingly safe. I've rolled up on cars that looked like Baby Godzilla's chew-toy and after a little work with the hydraulic cutters had the occupants walk away without a scratch --literally not a scratch. It's mindblowing.

Old cars? You're toast. You start off maimed and gurgling, and maybe you die in the ambulance on the way to hospital, maybe you're just fucked up for life. It's kind of a flip of the coin.

At that point I drove a '57 Willys Wagon --the ancestor of the Jeep Cherokee-- and until I was trained in Extrication I thought I was driving the safest car around --it was built like a tank, with real steel! After I got trained, I came to prefer my beloved's Geo Metro. Fuck real steel, the Metro was infinitely safer.

The short version of the science: in a crash, something has to absorb the force of impact. In modern cars, it's the crumple zones, as well as that the modern, thinner steel crumples easily and dissipates the force by deforming. Also, the generally lighter weight of a small car means there's less inertial force to be absorbed for a given velocity. Older, more rigid cars, and in SUVs that have tubular frames instead of unibody construction, their stiffness means the force will be absorbed by something else. That "something else" ends up being the humans in the car.

Anyway, I considered ctb with my car --that old Willys-- several times. It wouldn't do more than 80mph (down hill, with a tailwind), but I had picked out an overpass pylon that wasn't shielded by concrete crash-deflectors. It might have worked, but it did take a lot of pre-planning, and it wasn't a sure thing. If you can find such a head-on compatible crash object, you've got a chance, but it won't be any fun, and you'll have plenty of time to flinch.

And just because I have to put it in: rolling up on a "juicy" wreck isn't any fun for the first responders. Especially not before Christmas. In fact, it sucks.
 
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stargazer

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Nov 19, 2018
433
OP here. Forget about it. Looks like it'll have to be hanging. I may get some Pinot noir that tastes like Ribena to soothe the nerves, perhaps.
 
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stargazer

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Nov 19, 2018
433
And this will succeed. I'm not one for attempts or second attempts, because for this, only the first time will be the charm. Hooray!
 
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OkTotti

Wizard
Nov 6, 2018
616
And this will succeed. I'm not one for attempts or second attempts, because for this, only the first time will be the charm. Hooray!
Good luck, if you're that determined, i think you will succeed. Just hope you leave this world peacefully and is painless.
 
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ChickenAndPotatoes

ChickenAndPotatoes

Veteran Veteran
Nov 8, 2018
137
*Put brick paving/stepping stones, which you can buy at Home Depot or any major hardware/home store, all over the trunk of your car to reduce fire hazard.
*Buy hot dogs and buns from a grocery store.
*Drive to local public park or campground, lake, beach, or football stadium (tailgate cookout) at these places grilling won't draw attention usually.
*Grill your hotdogs.
*Put charcoal grill in car trunk while it's active, not smoking. You need incomplete combustion of the charcoal.
*This will be the method I will try in a few days once I get my got damned debit card finally. The issuer put my zip code in the system wrong. So my debit card went to a town in South Dakota instead of Portland, Oregon.
 
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Aug 30, 2018
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*Put brick paving/stepping stones, which you can buy at Home Depot or any major hardware/home store, all over the trunk of your car to reduce fire hazard.
*Buy hot dogs and buns from a grocery store.
*Drive to local public park or campground, lake, beach, or football stadium (tailgate cookout) at these places grilling won't draw attention usually.
*Grill your hotdogs.
*Put charcoal grill in car trunk while it's active, not smoking. You need incomplete combustion of the charcoal.
*This will be the method I will try in a few days once I get my got damned debit card finally. The issuer put my zip code in the system wrong. So my debit card went to a town in South Dakota instead of Portland, Oregon.

This sounds like a good plan for those who want to ctb via a charcoal. Great post, especially the hotdogs and stuff hiding the real intention.
 
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