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anchored_astronaut

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Nov 25, 2019
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By "natural" I don't mean creating the illusion of an accidental death. I mean drowning by being shit at swimming rather than implementing weights or whatever else.

I have incredibly limited resources. I have no money, and while I'm not above theft, I can't get myself to and from a store that sells suicide supplies. I believe they're called "hardware stores". (Sorry, I think I'm funny. Maybe you will too.)

I can, however, get myself to (and from, but that wouldn't be an issue) a lake. It's perhaps a mile and a half down a hill that I can see from my front porch. Not really a daunting journey. On my side is a lounge that closes late in the evening. On the other side are luxury houses with private docks, close enough to admire but not so close as to obscure the stars with any lights that may be on.

My plan would be to go down with an inner tube, a box cutter, and a bottle of booze. I'd sit on the shore and enjoy half a dozen or so drinks and the beauty around me for a while. Then, when I was drunk enough to mute some of my fear, but not too drunk to properly use my hands, I'd swim out into the water with the aid of the inner tube. When I was too far out to make it back, I'd slash the innertube with the box cutter. Once it deflated, it wouldn't be long until I sunk. I can tread water for less than a minute and can only swim small distances (maybe fifty feet).

I've heard mixed accounts of what it's like to drown. While plenty speak of a euphoric, carefree feeling quickly replacing the initial panic, others talk about severe pain and unending panic. Of course, these are only accounts of near-drowning, as anyone who actually drowned sure as hell isnt talking about it.

I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for by posting this. I guess just any thoughts anyone may have on it. I'm worried I'm missing some obvious flaw, as it doesn't sound like the smoothest exit, and I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed (that would be my friend the box cutter. haha. sorry).

I'm in no particular hurry to catch the bus- it's an inevitability, but not acutely- so I have plenty of time to work out any kinks or pick a different method entirely.
 
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LMLN

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Aug 10, 2019
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What time if day do you plan on doing this? You mention houses are in the lake. Will someone call emergency services?
Even if you are drunk, drowning might sober you up enough to be unpleasant. But I'm not certain.
 
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Sep 9, 2019
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How are you supporting yourself thus far if you have literally no money - And I guess will have to keep doing so if are in no hurry to ctb?! Must be tough. So shit that money (lack of it) literally impinges on everything! Can u get any kind of benefits where you live? Not sure about drowning. Some people on here seem pretty sure on as it as method. But it's like anything- we will never really know what it's truly like- as no one can 'report back' as it were.
 
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Ark

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Oct 18, 2019
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If your swimming ability is truly that limited you have a good chance at success. However, I have seen someone drown and it looked like a horrific way to CTB. Panic, screaming, terrified. It was a young kid in a lake, due to currents it took people around 40 minutes to recover his body. I personally would never choose that way to go. But, if you are drunk enough I could see that suppressing some of that.
 
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helpfulfriendonwout

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Nov 25, 2019
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I've almost drowned a couple of times, and it is horrifying. But I'd think you could get some first hand accounts of people who have drowned. Plenty of people have been revived after drowning, right? The part that's relevant to you is before you're unconscious I assume? So I'd think they'd remember it. I have trouble believing drowning is ever euphoric. There are ways to go that are much less unpleasant, even if you have no money
 
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anchored_astronaut

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Nov 25, 2019
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How are you supporting yourself thus far if you have literally no money - And I guess will have to keep doing so if are in no hurry to ctb?! Must be tough. So shit that money (lack of it) literally impinges on everything! Can u get any kind of benefits where you live? Not sure about drowning. Some people on here seem pretty sure on as it as method. But it's like anything- we will never really know what it's truly like- as no one can 'report back' as it were.

My living situation is pretty embarrassing (and definitely part of why I want to die). My immediate family and I (mother, myself, and a sibling) occupy a house my grandmother owns. She'd intended it to be a rental to help pad her retirement but instead felt obligated to offer it to us years ago when we fell on hard(er than usual) times. None of us have managed to find our feet since, even though the both of us then-kids are now grown, albeit barely. We collect food stamps to help cover the gaps that are leftover, as only 2/3 of us work and one of those is only part time. I am the one who can't work.

So, long story short, I don't support. I'm a parasite. And I feel immense guilt about it. I'm having a very difficult time getting over my fear of dying, though, and for the time being that fear is stronger than the guilt I feel and the unhappiness I feel independent of that. I'm sure if I had access to a truly pleasant method (my ideal would be to overdose on some kind of downer. H, N, I don't really care) I'd be more ready to go, but as you said, a lack of funds impinges everything.
If your swimming ability is truly that limited you have a good chance at success. However, I have seen someone drown and it looked like a horrific way to CTB. Panic, screaming, terrified. It was a young kid in a lake, due to currents it took people around 40 minutes to recover his body. I personally would never choose that way to go. But, if you are drunk enough I could see that suppressing some of that.

Yikes, that sounds awful. I'll definitely keep that in mind while reaching a final decision. Especially the screaming. That could be a problem. I'd hate if anyone heard and "saved" me.
 
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helpfulfriendonwout

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My living situation is pretty embarrassing (and definitely part of why I want to die). My immediate family and I (mother, myself, and a sibling) occupy a house my grandmother owns. She'd intended it to be a rental to help pad her retirement but instead felt obligated to offer it to us years ago when we fell on hard(er than usual) times. None of us have managed to find our feet since, even though the both of us then-kids are now grown, albeit barely. We collect food stamps to help cover the gaps that are leftover, as only 2/3 of us work and one of those is only part time. I am the one who can't work.

So, long story short, I don't support. I'm a parasite. And I feel immense guilt about it. I'm having a very difficult time getting over my fear of dying, though, and for the time being that fear is stronger than the guilt I feel and the unhappiness I feel independent of that. I'm sure if I had access to a truly pleasant method (my ideal would be to overdose on some kind of downer. H, N, I don't really care) I'd be more ready to go, but as you said, a lack of funds impinges everything.


Yikes, that sounds awful. I'll definitely keep that in mind while reaching a final decision. Especially the screaming. That could be a problem. I'd hate if anyone heard and "saved" me.
People have intrinsic value and worth. Your inability to contribute in the ways that society believes are important doesn't mean that you're worthless, it's just something that people have filled your head with.
 
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Jun 28, 2018
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Since joining this site I have researched drowning as a method and there's not a whole lot about it on the internet. From what little I have read it seems very agonizing once you start taking in water but that pain will only last like 3 - 30 seconds before one becomes unconscious. The only other fear is being rescued and living with brain damage.
 
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realjunes

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Oct 1, 2019
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By "natural" I don't mean creating the illusion of an accidental death. I mean drowning by being shit at swimming rather than implementing weights or whatever else.

I have incredibly limited resources. I have no money, and while I'm not above theft, I can't get myself to and from a store that sells suicide supplies. I believe they're called "hardware stores". (Sorry, I think I'm funny. Maybe you will too.)

I can, however, get myself to (and from, but that wouldn't be an issue) a lake. It's perhaps a mile and a half down a hill that I can see from my front porch. Not really a daunting journey. On my side is a lounge that closes late in the evening. On the other side are luxury houses with private docks, close enough to admire but not so close as to obscure the stars with any lights that may be on.

My plan would be to go down with an inner tube, a box cutter, and a bottle of booze. I'd sit on the shore and enjoy half a dozen or so drinks and the beauty around me for a while. Then, when I was drunk enough to mute some of my fear, but not too drunk to properly use my hands, I'd swim out into the water with the aid of the inner tube. When I was too far out to make it back, I'd slash the innertube with the box cutter. Once it deflated, it wouldn't be long until I sunk. I can tread water for less than a minute and can only swim small distances (maybe fifty feet).

I've heard mixed accounts of what it's like to drown. While plenty speak of a euphoric, carefree feeling quickly replacing the initial panic, others talk about severe pain and unending panic. Of course, these are only accounts of near-drowning, as anyone who actually drowned sure as hell isnt talking about it.

I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for by posting this. I guess just any thoughts anyone may have on it. I'm worried I'm missing some obvious flaw, as it doesn't sound like the smoothest exit, and I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed (that would be my friend the box cutter. haha. sorry).

I'm in no particular hurry to catch the bus- it's an inevitability, but not acutely- so I have plenty of time to work out any kinks or pick a different method entirely.
Anchored - I actually did think your line was funny, made me laugh a bit. And you have an interesting way of explaining your circumstances,
however dire. And, while I know nothing about the drowning method, you obviously have a creative mind, a thought out all the variables. I have
faith you can either polish up that idea or come up with a plan B, and of course, in the meantime, we all hope that your circumstances may
improve or at least not worsen. Best to you. AA.
 
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Shinbu

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Nov 23, 2019
477
I almost drowned naturally. It wasn't a pleasant experience. I had to hold on to a branch to stay surface level, and I was saved by my mom's boyfriend. The adrenaline kicks in once you know you are drowning, and your survival instincts will kick in to do whatever it takes to survive. I wouldn't do it personally.
 
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MissNietzsche

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Aug 1, 2019
343
I was a lifeguard/swim instructor/competitive swimmer/water polo player and everyone I have seen and heard about drowning has been in a state of extreme panic. You can see it in their wide eyes. Your survival instincts kick in like crazy.

Drowners don't ever think rationally; they'll accidentally drown lifeguards who aren't good at their jobs.

On top of that, I've read that drowning is extremely painful. At least for me, that mental block of ingesting water is way too scary for me...then again, I can probably swim/float for at least 48-72 hours (basically until I can't handle sleep deprivation), so our perceptions of water are probably different.

In the end, even if those few seconds are excruciatingly painful, it'll only take those few seconds before you lose consciousness anyway.

Maybe you can try a mock test with someone who you know is a strong enough swimmer to save you?
 
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realjunes

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Oct 1, 2019
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I was a lifeguard/swim instructor/competitive swimmer, and everyone I have seen and heard about drowning has been in a state of extreme panic. You can see it in their wide eyes. Your survival instincts kick in like crazy.

Drowners don't ever think rationally; they'll accidentally drown lifeguards who aren't good at their jobs.

On top of that, I've read that drowning is extremely painful. At least for me, that mental block of ingesting water is way too scary for me...then again, I can probably swim/float for at least 48-72 hours (basically until I can't handle sleep deprivation), so our perceptions of water are probably different.

In the end, even if those few seconds are excruciatingly painful, it'll only take those few seconds before you lose consciousness anyway.

Maybe you can try a mock test with someone who you know is a strong enough swimmer to save you?

Wow. If I ever even think about a drowning method, I want YOU there for sure for my mock test!
 
Spooks

Spooks

Member
Nov 27, 2019
8
So, long story short, I don't support. I'm a parasite. And I feel immense guilt about it.

That's a lot of social guilt you got there, your worth is not in your financial contributions.
 
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goomsoom

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Jan 17, 2020
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@anchored_astronaut I was searching for drowning method and I have a lot of similarities with you, cannot swim, cannot support myself, feel like a burden on everyone.

Have you done any more research about it to suppress SI ? Surviving again would be embarrassing for me.
 

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