Method N veterinary liquid : 1 or 2 bottles ?

[jgm63]

This relates to the N that A supplies.
The question of whether 1 or 2 bottles is needed often arises...

I just thought I'd record current thoughts here (for search indexing purposes), and we can add any as we go....

There is a lengthy discussion in this thread :

Spoiler: getting-n-from-a-things-everyone-should-know.28438

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/getting-n-from-a-things-everyone-should-know.28438/

This post was a summary of my main thoughts at the time :

Spoiler: post-522996

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...things-everyone-should-know.28438/post-522996

So exit international seem to say that 1 bottle is enough.

This webpage suggests 2 bottles are needed :

Spoiler: danger-of-underdose-with-mexican-vet-nembutal

Danger of underdose with Mexican vet. Nembutal | Assisted-Dying Blog

There has been a lot of talk recently of getting from Mexico bottles of veterinary Nembutal for self-deliverance. Some reports claim one bottle is enough. True, one bottle of veterinary Nembutal (6 gms) will end the life of a frail, elderly person already close to death, but a physically strong...

assisted-dying.org

My "best guess" on the matter is explained here :

Spoiler: post-502162

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-protocol-regime-regimen-notes.27092/post-502162

The peaceful pill handbook states that dilantin can potentiate N.
So one bottle combined with dilantin may be enough, even for heavier people, although some have said that dilantin may reduce the peacefulness.

Alcohol also apparently helps potentiate N, so perhaps one bottle combined with some strong alcohol might be enough.

 

[Girobatol]

I am wondering about the dilantin, if it really reduces the peacefulness. Meant2die used dilantin along N from A and seems she passed. I wonder the source of that statement. I read somewhere that the dilantin might give a heart attack before the Ns sedation, but I believe this was something the vets used to keep people away and scare us.
I have N and also dilantin, but still unsure if I am using both (to make death faster).

 

[jgm63]

Some input from @Asta :

Spoiler: post-570269

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/anyone-been-a-witness-to-a-nembutal-suicide.30966/post-570269

May warrant further investigation for fact gathering at some point....

 

[ComingClose]

Just found this on a website that sells N (and everything else by the look of it). I don't claim this to be a legit site and I'm cautious about sites that make spelling or grammatical errors but thought some may find it interesting/useful.


Nembutal pentobarbital 250mg/ml drinking solution
The lethal dose of nembutal is not the same for everyone and takes into account many factors that differ from one individual to another. The consumption of the oral solution of pentobarbital nembutal in high quantity is fatal for the man and causes death. The lethal quantity is indicated by your euthanasia doctor according to your characteristics.
According to the standart statistics
25ml -> 15kg – 45kg
50ml -> 50kg – 100kg
75ml -> 105kg – 190kg
100ml -> 195kg – above
For more prescisions, you can contact us for the lethal dose required for your features.

 

[jgm63]

Just found this on a website that sells N (and everything else by the look of it). I don't claim this to be a legit site and I'm cautious about sites that make spelling or grammatical errors but thought some may find it interesting/useful.


Nembutal pentobarbital 250mg/ml drinking solution
The lethal dose of nembutal is not the same for everyone and takes into account many factors that differ from one individual to another. The consumption of the oral solution of pentobarbital nembutal in high quantity is fatal for the man and causes death. The lethal quantity is indicated by your euthanasia doctor according to your characteristics.
According to the standart statistics
25ml -> 15kg – 45kg
50ml -> 50kg – 100kg
75ml -> 105kg – 190kg
100ml -> 195kg – above
For more prescisions, you can contact us for the lethal dose required for your features.

Thanks for the input.
Those clearnet sites are 99.99% scams.
So sadly there's not much point in quoting what they say.
They might have copied their info from a legitimate source, or they might not have, so further research would be needed....

 

[calendulo]

Sadly...............I am afraid that is a question which never we'll get an answer, at least a rational answer.

I have shared this report several times here. Seems to me a very interesting report and source is good.
Doing a summary:
20 suicide cases by Fatal Pentobarbital Intoxication in Ontario, Canada, from 2012 to 2015.

Literally from report:

"In 11 cases, there was clear evidence (i.e., packaging and/or documentation) of mail order pentobarbital via internet purchase;in nine cases from Mexico and in two cases from China. In two additional cases, there was Spanish labeling on the pentobarbital vials. In the majority of cases where vials of liquid pentobarbital were present, there were one or two vials with a concentration of 6.3 g/100 mL.".

Report is in english language, I can make a mistake but two bottles are not showed in any case......everyone can to come to the conclusion that wanted.

Besides, report shows more interesting data about antiemetics uses, even suicides notes.......and repeat again: everyone can to come to the conclusion that wanted.
Was a report very useful for me.
There is not conviction.
IMHO.

 

[jgm63]

Sadly...............I am afraid that is a question which never we'll get an answer, at least a rational answer.

I have shared this report several times here. Seems to me a very interesting report and source is good.
Doing a summary:
20 suicide cases by Fatal Pentobarbital Intoxication in Ontario, Canada, from 2012 to 2015.

Literally from report:

"In 11 cases, there was clear evidence (i.e., packaging and/or documentation) of mail order pentobarbital via internet purchase;in nine cases from Mexico and in two cases from China. In two additional cases, there was Spanish labeling on the pentobarbital vials. In the majority of cases where vials of liquid pentobarbital were present, there were one or two vials with a concentration of 6.3 g/100 mL.".

Report is in english language, I can make a mistake but two bottles are not showed in any case......everyone can to come to the conclusion that wanted.

Besides, report shows more interesting data about antiemetics uses, even suicides notes.......and repeat again: everyone can to come to the conclusion that wanted.
Was a report very useful for me.
There is not conviction.
IMHO.

In terms of this topic, that report simply shows that some people use 1 bottle and some people use 2.
But thanks for posting it, as some people may like to read it.

 

[calendulo]

In terms of this topic, that report simply shows that some people use 1 bottle and some people use 2.
But thanks for posting it, as some people may like to read it.

You are very welcome, but nobody is going to read it, and actually I understand it... because nobody wants to have doubts.

 

[Heady_Cerebrum]

Sadly...............I am afraid that is a question which never we'll get an answer, at least a rational answer.

I have shared this report several times here. Seems to me a very interesting report and source is good.
Doing a summary:
20 suicide cases by Fatal Pentobarbital Intoxication in Ontario, Canada, from 2012 to 2015.

Literally from report:

"In 11 cases, there was clear evidence (i.e., packaging and/or documentation) of mail order pentobarbital via internet purchase;in nine cases from Mexico and in two cases from China. In two additional cases, there was Spanish labeling on the pentobarbital vials. In the majority of cases where vials of liquid pentobarbital were present, there were one or two vials with a concentration of 6.3 g/100 mL.".

Report is in english language, I can make a mistake but two bottles are not showed in any case......everyone can to come to the conclusion that wanted.

Besides, report shows more interesting data about antiemetics uses, even suicides notes.......and repeat again: everyone can to come to the conclusion that wanted.
Was a report very useful for me.
There is not conviction.
IMHO.

Thanks for sharing that report. I'm going to try to read it later today.