N sleep test

[hahabye]

Did a sleep test with my N yesterday. I want to share my experience in case anyone is interested.

It is noteworthy that I received my N from A around 1.5 years ago in two sterile glass bottles with labels ripped off. Most of this time, I stored it in a box in either my room (during the cold season) or my basement but never in a fridge.

Preparation

This was probably completely unnecessary but I wanted to do it to have a similar experience to what is going to happen on my last day.

1. Fasted for 4 hours.
2. Had a toast with tea 1.5 hours before N time.
3. Took 10mg of meto 1 hour before
4. Drank N (it was 21:30, so waaay before my usual bedtime). I drank 3 ml (extracted it with a syringe).

Taste

It reminded me somewhat of this stomachache medicine they used to give us in kindergarten that was minty and had a very strong lingering aftereffect. It is a bit of a breathtaking taste, felt as if it went all over my body. Like some said, similar to a shot of vodka but much stronger.

I am very sensitive to peculiar tastes and don't eat many things because of that. However, N definitely was not as bad as many people describe it to be. The only thing I did to prepare for drinking it was pinching my nose. Honestly, I could not feel the taste until the moment I released my nose, even though I held N in my mouth for a few seconds. I ate some gummy candy afterward. What helped to get rid of the taste the most was scraping my tongue and gargling with Listerine. The taste was pretty much gone after that.

Although very bitter, I would not say it is disgusting or nauseating. I'd still choose to drink N over drinking tomato juice (sorry, tomato juice lovers).

Effects

10 minutes after drinking it, I became much calmer and a little bit disoriented/dizzy. The feeling was similar to the one after a couple of straight shots.

5 more minutes later I went to bed and fell asleep almost immediately. And that says a lot since lately I have been suffering from insomnia and I can barely ever fall asleep with an empty stomach.

However, contrary to what some other members here have reported, it did not knock me out for 12 or more hours. I woke up at 4 am (6 hours later) and had some trouble falling back asleep for a while.

Morning After

I woke up slightly drowsy and nauseous. The nausea still continues to this time. It is exactly like the one I get with a hangover. Perhaps A sent me two VERY expensive vodka bottles to celebrate my life instead of ending it?

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The results of this test made me a bit concerned. I definitely expected stronger effects (3ml should be around 189mg of N). However, I could not find too many other reports about how it went for the others. So given that it still did have a pretty strong effect on helping me fall asleep, I think that my N has not become completely impotent.

I am now thinking that it might be a good idea to save up and send it to EC for a quantitative test. What do you think?

If you have any experiences/tips/insights to share, please do!

 

[HopelessFight]

Note that everyone will react somewhat different on this. You fell asleep after 15 minutes, so you didn't experience the effects during the next 6 hours. When I take a large armount of benzo's, I also experience a hangover-like effect the next day, so that is not too concerning.

Maybe you could start with one of those cheap drug tests you can buy on Amazon. If it reacts positive on barbiturates, it's most likely N. Another thing you could do (but it's too late for that, unless you want to try this again) is buying a GHB urine test and test your urine when you wake up. If this bottle would indeed contain GHB, which I doubt, you'd test positive on GHB, but GHB is only detectable in urine for 12 hours.

 

[hahabye]

Note that everyone will react somewhat different on this. You fell asleep after 15 minutes, so you didn't experience the effects during the next 6 hours. When I take a large armount of benzo's, I also experience a hangover-like effect the next day, so that is not too concerning.

Maybe you could start with one of those cheap drug tests you can buy on Amazon. If it reacts positive on barbiturates, it's most likely N. Another thing you could do (but it's too late for that, unless you want to try this again) is buying a GHB urine test and test your urine when you wake up. If this bottle would indeed contain GHB, which I doubt, you'd test positive on GHB, but GHB is only detectable in urine for 12 hours.

Thanks for reassuring me.

I actually wasn't too worried about this being something else than N. But perhaps now that you mention it, testing it with one of the cheap tests just to be completely sure is a good idea before sending it out to EC! Thanks for the tip

 

[Pharmaruined]

Thanks for reassuring me.

I actually wasn't too worried about this being something else than N. But perhaps now that you mention it, testing it with one of the cheap tests just to be completely sure is a good idea before sending it out to EC! Thanks for the tip

I'm sure it's N. The issue is after 1.5 years has it become diluted?
it's the exact reason I held off buying it a few years back.. wish he had it in a powder..

where would u send it for testing.. isn't it pretty expensive? If it's more than a bottle of N I would order another bottle and do the test again with a fresh batch.

 

[hahabye]

I'm sure it's N. The issue is after 1.5 years has it become diluted?
it's the exact reason I held off buying it a few years back.. wish he had it in a powder..

where would u send it for testing.. isn't it pretty expensive? If it's more than a bottle of N I would order another bottle and do the test again with a fresh batch.

I'm worried about the possibility of diluting, yes.

I haven't properly looked into the options, but the one that seems to be popular here is Energy Control. They do a quantitative test for €120. But they only require a small amount for testing, so I'd still definitely have enough for ctb (if I understood what you meant correctly).

And that is expensive for me, especially at this moment, but I still have a few months to save up. Not sure how quick they're with the results though. Anyway, it is still much cheaper than a new bottle of N.

 

[Pharmaruined]

I'm worried about the possibility of diluting, yes.

I haven't properly looked into the options, but the one that seems to be popular here is Energy Control. They do a quantitative test for €120. But they only require a small amount for testing, so I'd still definitely have enough for ctb (if I understood what you meant correctly).

And that is expensive for me, especially at this moment, but I still have a few months to save up. Not sure how quick they're with the results though. Anyway, it is still much cheaper than a new bottle of N.

No i meant order a fresh bottle and do the sleep test again.. if u wake up after 6 hours than your old bottle hasn't lost any potency.. but yea if it's only 120 bucks to test than that's a better way obviously

I had an herbal libido pill me and a buddy were going to market and sell but we wanted to test to see what was actually in it . Can't trust the Chinese.. sure enough it was Cialis... Anyway that test cost 750 bucks

 

[intr0verse]

As @DutchSuicidalPerson said, people react differently to a therapeutic dose of N so i wouldn't worry about the duration of action; besides, N is a fast and short-acting barbiturate so a 4-6 hours of sleep is within the range.
If your liquid doesn't show signs of precipitate (which would indicate a change in its pH) at the bottom of the bottle, it's still potent.

 

[hahabye]

No i meant order a fresh bottle and do the sleep test again.. if u wake up after 6 hours than your old bottle hasn't lost any potency.. but yea if it's only 120 bucks to test than that's a better way obviously

I had an herbal libido pill me and a buddy were going to market and sell but we wanted to test to see what was actually in it . Can't trust the Chinese.. sure enough it was Cialis... Anyway that test cost 750 bucks

Oh gosh, that's an expensive test! And I thought €120 was a lot...

Anyway, like @DutchSuicidalPerson suggested, I'll just order a €10 urine test to make sure it does contain barbiturates. That's probably redundant at this point, but I'm too paranoid about not dying.

As @DutchSuicidalPerson said, people react differently to a therapeutic dose of N so i wouldn't worry about the duration of action; besides, N is a fast and short-acting barbiturate so a 4-6 hours of sleep is within the range.
If your liquid doesn't show signs of precipitate (which would indicate a change in its pH) at the bottom of the bottle, it's still potent.

Thank you for your reassuring words, really appreciate it! That makes a lot of sense too. I'm just way too uneducated regarding this matter and, thus, scared.

I've checked the bottles a couple of times before and could not see any precipitate. Will check again just to be completely sure.

 

[Thegoldenapples]

Given you have insomnia and struggle to fall asleep with an empty stomach and passed out within 15 mins, I think that's a good outcome, and like the others mentioned, it's normal to have a hangover post substances like that. Nembutal half life is 15-50 hours, so I'd be concerned if you didn't feel hungover.

 

[hahabye]

Given you have insomnia and struggle to fall asleep with an empty stomach and passed out within 15 mins, I think that's a good outcome

I thought the same thing, but it feels way more reassuring hearing it from somebody else. Thanks!

and like the others mentioned, it's normal to have a hangover post substances like that. Nembutal half life is 15-50 hours, so I'd be concerned if you didn't feel hungover.

I never would've thought Nembutal hangover is a thing! well then I'm even more happy the next time I drink N will be the last

 

[Thegoldenapples]

For anyone that wants to taste test their N, as everyone is different, I'd go with 1ml, max 2ml. Reactions and tolerance can be different and I remember reading about a lady having 3ml and she ended up in hospital and her N was found and confiscated.

 

[speck]

Another thing to consider is: what's your weight? I've read mixed things about how it effects differently weighted people. Ex: heavier people need more, lighter people need less, etc.

 

[hahabye]

Another thing to consider is: what's your weight? I've read mixed things about how it effects differently weighted people. Ex: heavier people need more, lighter people need less, etc.

That's true! I weigh around 65kg, so nothing out of the ordinary. I found somewhere that a safe adult dose is 65-200mg, so I took around 189mg (if my N is still as potent as it should be).

 

[Thegoldenapples]

That's true! I weigh around 65kg, so nothing out of the ordinary. I found somewhere that a safe adult dose is 65-200mg, so I took around 189mg (if my N is still as potent as it should be).

Yeah and also your meal. The meal is there for 2 bottles so you have les chance of vomiting. Might have hit you harder with a completely empty stomach. Think safe dose is different for everyone, just like all scripts. The chick i mentioned that went to hospital, wouldn't wake up. Ended up being put cold for well over 48 hours so parents got concerned. So when people test it, need to consider that aspect. Smaller women should start on the lower end of the safe testing scale.

 

[hahabye]

Yeah and also your meal. The meal is there for 2 bottles so you have les chance of vomiting. Might have hit you harder with a completely empty stomach. Think safe dose is different for everyone, just like all scripts. The chick i mentioned that went to hospital, wouldn't wake up. Ended up being put cold for well over 48 hours so parents got concerned. So when people test it, need to consider that aspect. Smaller women should start on the lower end of the safe testing scale.

That's also good to keep in mind! I did see a few members here saying they tested with 10ml even! And they did not mention any adverse effects or anything. So I guess the effect must be quite different for everyone.

So from what I've gathered so far, I think the expensive EC quantitative test might be a bit over the top. I'll just test for barbiturates at home and make sure there's no precipitate.

 

[xLosthopex]

Thanks so much for sharing your experience this is really helpful, I also have N from A which I got last October
I'm surprised about what you said regarding the taste, I thought it was meant to be awful tasting?! Can I ask what exact brand/type of N you got, if you know? Or if you're not sure maybe just describe the colour of the bottle and liquid? I'm wondering if we got the same one or not

 

[Thegoldenapples]

That's also good to keep in mind! I did see a few members here saying they tested with 10ml even! And they did not mention any adverse effects or anything. So I guess the effect must be quite different for everyone.

So from what I've gathered so far, I think the expensive EC quantitative test might be a bit over the top. I'll just test for barbiturates at home and make sure there's no precipitate.

Yeah wow, that's a lot. I was just putting it out there so people are careful and don't make an already worse situation worse for themselves. If your living alone you don't have to worry about people not being able to wake you up and freaking out. Yeah the EC is not vital for liquid N like it is for N powder. Key thing with N is to make sure you're not found for a decent length of time like 12-24 hours. Interventions seem to be why they fail. No one has failed of liquid N without intervention from A's and haven't heard of anyone failing from D's.

 

[hahabye]

Thanks so much for sharing your experience this is really helpful, I also have N from A which I got last October
I'm surprised about what you said regarding the taste, I thought it was meant to be awful tasting?! Can I ask what exact brand/type of N you got, if you know? Or if you're not sure maybe just describe the colour of the bottle and liquid? I'm wondering if we got the same one or not

I was also quite surprised by how tolerable the taste was. I've seen so many people saying it's terrible and all these threads on how to make it less disgusting... Perhaps because I was expecting the worst, it didn't taste so bad (if that makes sense).

Since my bottles came without labels, I have no idea which brand it was. And the different brand bottles in the PPH look so similar to me. It's a brown, slightly seethrough bottle with a blue safety cap and clear liquid.

 

[oraldine2]

Since my bottles came without labels, I have no idea which brand it was. And the different brand bottles in the PPH look so similar to me. It's a brown, slightly seethrough bottle with a blue safety cap and clear liquid.

Probably pisabental

 

[hahabye]

Yeah wow, that's a lot. I was just putting it out there so people are careful and don't make an already worse situation worse for themselves. If your living alone you don't have to worry about people not being able to wake you up and freaking out. Yeah the EC is not vital for liquid N like it is for N powder. Key thing with N is to make sure you're not found for a decent length of time like 12-24 hours. Interventions seem to be why they fail. No one has failed of liquid N without intervention from A's and haven't heard of anyone failing from D's.

Yeah, that makes sense, especially if the concentration is lower (saw somewhere that the more N you take the quicker it kills you). I have also never heard of anyone failing without intervention, that's very comforting to know.

Probably pisabental

Yeah, the picture in the PPH looks a lot like my bottles.

 

[xLosthopex]

I was also quite surprised by how tolerable the taste was. I've seen so many people saying it's terrible and all these threads on how to make it less disgusting... Perhaps because I was expecting the worst, it didn't taste so bad (if that makes sense).

Since my bottles came without labels, I have no idea which brand it was. And the different brand bottles in the PPH look so similar to me. It's a brown, slightly seethrough bottle with a blue safety cap and clear liquid.

Thank you! I think we have the same bottles :)

 

[hahabye]

Update:

I know there wasn't much to worry about but it's such a relief to get a positive result! (I tested 0.1ml in about 100ml of water)

And upon closer inspection, I found no signs of precipitate in the bottle! Which probably means that my N is still potent enough even after 1.5 years.

 

[xLosthopex]

Update:

I know there wasn't much to worry about but it's such a relief to get a positive result! (I tested 0.1ml in about 100ml of water)

And upon closer inspection, I found no signs of precipitate in the bottle! Which probably means that my N is still potent enough even after 1.5 years.

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Appreciate you posting this, thank you!

 

[Donk]

Update:

I know there wasn't much to worry about but it's such a relief to get a positive result! (I tested 0.1ml in about 100ml of water)

And upon closer inspection, I found no signs of precipitate in the bottle! Which probably means that my N is still potent enough even after 1.5 years.

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where did you get this testing device and how do you interpret the result

 

[hahabye]

where did you get this testing device and how do you interpret the result

I just got it from one of the bigger online shops. Many variants of this test are also available on amazon.

So wherever you are from, you can find this by searching for a "multidrug urine test". Just make sure it tests for barbiturates (BAR).

The results are interpreted by looking at the red lines in each of the five sections. Each section represent a different drug (e.g. barbiturates are in the fourth, pink one, in this case). If there's a line next to C only - it's positive. If there're two lines, it's negative. If there's no line, the results are invalid.

There's a very very faint line for the ketamine, which is not visible in the photo. This probably means it's still negative for ketamine.

 

[suicidesheep31]

@hahabye
Which diameter you used for the syringe?

 

[hahabye]

@hahabye
Which diameter you used for the syringe?

I used a 2ml syringe with a 21g needle. But I don't the size matters much, I just wouldn't use a syringe that is too big. It might be inconvenient for extracting such a small amount of liquid.

 

[suicidesheep31]

I used a 2ml syringe with a 21g needle. But I don't the size matters much, I just wouldn't use a syringe that is too big. It might be inconvenient for extracting such a small amount of liquid.

Thanks, I was more talking about the diameter of the needle... my bad

 

[hahabye]

Thanks, I was more talking about the diameter of the needle... my bad

Oh then yeah I used 21g (0,80 x 40 mm), but I think it also doesn't matter much, as long as it's long enough to reach the liquid. :)

 

[suicidesheep31]

Oh then yeah I used 21g (0,80 x 40 mm), but I think it also doesn't matter much, as long as it's long enough to reach the liquid. :)

Thank you. It's the info I wanted. It's just because we also have bigger and i didn't know which one choose