n/a.

[thechosenone]

n/a.

 

[Asta]

No, no, wait!! I don't know anything about SN, but will look it up and PM you - please wait! There are certain steps.

 

[Raggas]

It's highly recommended that you have an anti-emetic and acid-reducer. If you can't get those, you should just fast for a while (maybe 8 hours) before taking it.

If you do it now you will throw up. It may not necessarily fail though, just will be unpleasant. I recommend not acting impulsively about the situation though.

 

[gingerplum]

I'm honestly not comfortable advising someone I've never interacted with about doing something incredibly impulsive.

I'm sorry, but everything about this feels wrong.

 

[Rocksandsand]

This is really difficult because I am entirely pro choice, but I would STRONGLY ADVISE that you slow down and do this properly if you are going to do it. Your body's natural response to any poison is to vomit. That's why when you drink too much, or use recreational substances, or even just normal medications that your body isn't used to, you throw up. SN without proper preparation is highly likely to result in vomiting and feeling shocking for a few days at minimum. There are countless reports on here of people who do everything by-the-book and still end up vomiting. A failed attempt can be a lot worse than waiting the few days to get it right

 

[Asta]

A failed attempt can be a lot worse than waiting the few days to get it right

Excellent advice!

 

[Rocksandsand]

@thechosenone I'm so sorry that things are so fucked for you. I truly am. The world is a fucked up place full of needless suffering. A failed attempt is an absolute fuck around though. Please slow down so if you do decide that this is what you want, you get that outcome, rather than sectioned under the mental health act

 

[gingerplum]

Maybe I should let you guys in on a little list I made that I have been revising for the last few weeks to include in my goodbye letter. I don't want anybody to think I just up and decided I'm going to do this today out of impulse.. I've been there, been hospitalized twice. I really thought I thought this one through but maybe things are never supposed to be easy for me..



Reasons to die:

	1. Nobody understands me
	2. Lost my last piece of happiness.. and they don't care..
	3. Physically abused
	4. Sexually abused
	5. Emotionally abused
	6. Alone
	7. Heartbroken and lost everyday
	8. Continue to be abandoned all my life
	9. Unnecessary fights throughout life
	10. Stressing parents
	11. Almost no real friends
	12. Barely have family outside immediate
	13. Missed out on all my childhood dreams
	14. Proven to be worthless 15.Weight up and down 16. People judge my sexuality 17. Hard to connect with other people or find people with similar mindsets as me 18. Had to Defend and protect myself majority of my life especially in the times I needed it the most 19. Expendable to most people... I could disappear and nobody would notice, or it would not affect any lives (outside parents, sister Jasmine, grandma) 20. Must watch the person I wanted to spend the rest of my life with, give theirselves & their love to somebody else 21. Backstabbed by almost every person I trusted 22. Crying myself to sleep every night, sometimes to the point of feeling sick at the thought of these things 23. It won't really make a difference after I'm gone 24. Always find myself being more loyal to others than they are to me.. regardless of circumstances 25. My heart is too big and no matter how I try to stop.. I can't 26. There is no hope for me. My depression and anxiety has taken over my life and took what I felt to be the best thing that ever happened to me away from me. Nothing I do can change that. I am my past. I have been defined by my PTSD and anxiety. 27. I've been made to feel worthless. Insecurities that I buried so long ago have been resurrected and intensified more than ever. 28. I can't even look in the mirror anymore. 29. I don't get second chances at anything. Love. Happiness. Life. I'm very easy to walk away from. Every person in my life has shown me just how little I mean and I have an expiration date with everybody.

I'm so sorry you're struggling; I hear you and I feel your pain. I hope you'll stick around for at least a few days so you can get the guidance you need. If SN is still your choice after that, you'll be able to do it the right way, with support and understanding, instead of this frantic impulsivity you're feeling.

 

[Asta]

@thechosenone We certainly don't think you are worthless! We're your friends here and we care that you have the best possible outcome in whatever you choose to do! I guess we were concerned because you said Help - I have to do this tonight :)

 

[JimFord99]

I'm honestly not comfortable advising someone I've never interacted with about doing something incredibly impulsive.

I'm sorry, but everything about this feels wrong.

Yeah. SN is definitely not the right method for an impulsive sudden method. Be patience and plan ahead.

 

[Rocksandsand]

@dysphoria I (sort of) agree. SN is my chosen method - but I'm broke as shit and can't afford N or an opiate, but antiemetics are really accessible for me... It really is an awful way to go. @thechosenone please please please take the time to get this right

 

[Dubs]

@dysphoria I (sort of) agree. SN is my chosen method - but I'm broke as shit and can't afford N or an opiate, but antiemetics are really accessible for me... It really is an awful way to go. @thechosenone please please please take the time to get this right

Why are you guys so against sn? Why do you think it's an awful way to go? If done even reasonably correctly it is very peaceful, possibly even more so than some cases of n use. We have multiple accounts of people passing out peacefully with sn but being saved in an ER and reporting back.

Thank you, sometimes feels like I'm alone in thinking impulsive decisions are a cause for concern and often not a logical reason for suicide. I support everyone's right to choose, just as long as they are mentally competent enough to make the decision. Impulsive kind of goes against that, and I know sometimes the only way to reach that suicidal state is with impulsive thinking, but as far as I know, this forum is about harm reduction and peaceful ends of life, and by all credible description, SN is not exactly a peaceful end. At high dose it is "an end", but involves experiencing death unlike any method like N or F which this place advocates. Always use at your own caution, and consider alternatives which are documented and peaceful.

Why are you saying sn is not peaceful?

 

[Rocksandsand]

Why are you guys so against sn? Why do you think it's an awful way to go? If done even reasonably correctly it is very peaceful, possibly even more so than some cases of n use. We have multiple accounts of people passing out peacefully with sn but being saved in an ER and reporting back.

As a paramedic, I saw a lot of people die... a peaceful death is a rare thing I think. I'm not against SN - it's my chosen method - but it's something that has the potential to turn very unpleasant if it's not prepared for correctly. Just my 2¢ though

 

[JimFord99]

This is personal preference I think. I am pro SN.

 

[Trainwreck]

I thought SN (when following the recommendations) was considered peaceful for the most part? Doesn't PPH have it in 4th place (after N, exit bag, and fentanyl)?

 

[Rocksandsand]

I thought SN (when following the recommendations) was considered peaceful for the most part? Doesn't PPH have it in 4th place (after N, exit bag, and fentanyl)?

It can be very effective, but it's dependent on adequate preparation

 

[Trainwreck]

Look at all of us SN people panicking

 

[Rocksandsand]

Look at all of us SN people panicking

Bahahahahaha we startle easily

 

[JimFord99]

Look at all of us SN people panicking

Nah, no need t panic. The devil is in the details, as always. Prepare yourself and it will be good. Don't rush into it.

 

[Blackjack]

n/a.

What does this mean?

 

[Stan]

Really can't believe this topic rears its head nearly every week

 

[Blackjack]

Really can't believe this topic rears its head nearly every week

What topic? I have no idea what this thread is even about.

 

[Stan]

What topic? I have no idea what this thread is even about.

think the OP was, by a guess going to take SN on impulse without the regime, only guessing there. Then moves on to the pain of taking SN akin to chewing a rusty chainsaw whilst its at full speed

 

[Asta]

The topic was about SN, but he/she removed it.