Ok, so I have a "small" penis, and it's making me sad and suicidal. It's 5.5 in length and 4.7 in girth. I know this technically makes it "average" but it looks so small in my eyes. I'm not sure if it's enough for any girl. I'm scared of a future partners reaction, what if she laughs?
Angst Filled Fuck Up
Visionary
- Sep 9, 2018
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You could try traction therapy, you can do it at home on the cheap. Idk how well it works in practice but it has a fairly solid basis in terms of the science behind it.
If a girl laughs at you that tells you everything you need to know about her. That's a good thing.
If a girl laughs at you that tells you everything you need to know about her. That's a good thing.
Marine
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Ahem. Sometimes it's better for really tight people *coughs*. It's a male myth that women want big stuff. It can actually be a problem for some of us. *coughs*
Also I don't know about other women but I don't look at that whatsoever, I'm not sure if anyone does unless it were abnormally tiny maybe but that's not what love or attraction is based on.
Also I don't know about other women but I don't look at that whatsoever, I'm not sure if anyone does unless it were abnormally tiny maybe but that's not what love or attraction is based on.
Viafactorum
Tedious
- Jun 9, 2022
- 80
Stick to hookers. You pay them not to laugh. Love is too overrated anyways and if you are going for causal hookups then ofc there might be people who laugh at your dick, but getting suicidal over that is like getting suicidal over seeing ads in a free mobile game. You kind of knew what you were getting into so why even bother?
Bro, some women don't even care about or want sex. Go to r/DeadRooms subreddit and other similar subreddits. Go find you one.
One: You have an average body part, just like most other people.
The one thing I would suggest to some people is to stop basing their interactions and body on certain movies.
Two:
The body part in question is only one method of pleasing your partner.
Some partners you will encounter in your life will like mouth and hand play, and don't forget toy play as well.
You will be enough for any girl.
Listen, size does not matter to every woman.
You have to get out of your head.
Your mind is lying to you on this issue.
You are letting people who you have not met yet rent space in your head for free.
Think about it from this angle. What you have would still allow you to make babies, so it should still please the other sex.
If your partner's reaction is to laugh and try to shame you, that should tell you a lot about their mindset and views of the world and people.
One last thing. Yes, there will be outliers who value those aesthetics, but you will be able to handle those people as well.
The one thing I would suggest to some people is to stop basing their interactions and body on certain movies.
Two:
The body part in question is only one method of pleasing your partner.
Some partners you will encounter in your life will like mouth and hand play, and don't forget toy play as well.
You will be enough for any girl.
Listen, size does not matter to every woman.
You have to get out of your head.
Your mind is lying to you on this issue.
You are letting people who you have not met yet rent space in your head for free.
Think about it from this angle. What you have would still allow you to make babies, so it should still please the other sex.
If your partner's reaction is to laugh and try to shame you, that should tell you a lot about their mindset and views of the world and people.
One last thing. Yes, there will be outliers who value those aesthetics, but you will be able to handle those people as well.
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GenesAndEnvironment
Autistic loser
- Jan 26, 2021
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I shaved the pubes around it and then played around with camera angles (this is all with my own dick, for clarification). Like with physique, lighting/angles/poses/etc will make a big difference. Also, if you have big hands/legs then it'll look comparatively smaller than for a shorter/smaller guy with an average D. Also, could be some problems with the qualities of the erection, not getting maximal blood flow due to stress or whatever. You might be able to find configurations of these factors that will make it look like your D is actually fairly big, with an average size penith. Think I'm also around average, but I've literally thought my D looked big several times just by doing these things (biggest factors are shaving pubes and having good blood flow). Sometimes it'll look bigger when not fully erect, as well. It's basically akin to rocket science in terms of how complicated it actually is, imo. Can't compare ourselves to pics online and stuff, either (some guys have very big penises, but it's not super relevant to our lives, and it does literally only come down to two or three inches, plus or minus), and even then there's a lot of movie magic involved (a D will look bigger if a small woman is grabbing it than if u grab it with your man-hands).
About the gf stuff, I think people underestimate just how chaotic all that is. I am autistic/NEET/etc, and so are many other MWWTHARBDHOs (men who want to have a relationship but don't have one). We also often lack the anecdotal data that's out there for people who socialize. This means that when trying to figure out why some people have girlfriends and some don't there's an increased risk of black-and-white-thinking/overgeneralizations. There are of course trends, and some things that are more or less nailed down at this point (in terms of trends/statistics), but I think generally speaking there's a huge chaos factor that accounts for a big part of things. Basically, "everything can happen" and "it's never too late" and "there's someone for everyone" has some grain of truth to it.
The things that might actually prevent you from getting a gf seem to be these (rather than having an average-sized penis), in no order of importance:
1. Being a NEET.
2. Being autistic.
3. Not having a social life.
4. Having a bad personality (weakness/volatility/pettiness/spitefulness/stupidity/etc).
5. Being physically unattractive.
6. Not having a college degree.
7. Not being confident.
8. Being "boring" and/or "negative".
9. Being "needy".
10. Making less money than her.
11. Living with parents.
12. Dressing poorly.
13. Not driving a car.
14. Not grooming/washing enough.
15. Having fringe religious/political beliefs, unusual moral system, that sort of thing.
16. Not being interested in parties/clubs/gatherings/etc.
17. Being very monogamous, wanting a virgin to marry, stuff like that.
18. Being a "quitter".
19. Rejecting women once you do get a chance due to some psychological problems or whatever (including body dysmorphia).
20. Not really meeting women, even if you have some sort of social life.
And much, much more, I guess. Again, depends on the woman. I've read stories on here that suggest that even suicidally depressed and disabled, sometimes even unhygienic or overweight, women can basically just grab an attractive, popular and successful (often older, as well) guy and suddenly move in with him and get a regular life going; so it's not looking great for those of us that can't provide anything. So it's important to not have to tangle with any body dysmorphia on top of everything else. Not to sound too pessimistic, a relatively normal guy shouldn't have a problem if he meets many women.
Anyway, in my opinion the only problem with your penis size is that it makes you less confident, basically. If you manage to get a girl to want to see that penith, worry about it then rather than now, if at all possible. And great that you think that it's a possibility that someone will eventually have sex with you, it's way more hope than I have, but I'm personally more or less checking all of those 20 points, heh.
About the gf stuff, I think people underestimate just how chaotic all that is. I am autistic/NEET/etc, and so are many other MWWTHARBDHOs (men who want to have a relationship but don't have one). We also often lack the anecdotal data that's out there for people who socialize. This means that when trying to figure out why some people have girlfriends and some don't there's an increased risk of black-and-white-thinking/overgeneralizations. There are of course trends, and some things that are more or less nailed down at this point (in terms of trends/statistics), but I think generally speaking there's a huge chaos factor that accounts for a big part of things. Basically, "everything can happen" and "it's never too late" and "there's someone for everyone" has some grain of truth to it.
The things that might actually prevent you from getting a gf seem to be these (rather than having an average-sized penis), in no order of importance:
1. Being a NEET.
2. Being autistic.
3. Not having a social life.
4. Having a bad personality (weakness/volatility/pettiness/spitefulness/stupidity/etc).
5. Being physically unattractive.
6. Not having a college degree.
7. Not being confident.
8. Being "boring" and/or "negative".
9. Being "needy".
10. Making less money than her.
11. Living with parents.
12. Dressing poorly.
13. Not driving a car.
14. Not grooming/washing enough.
15. Having fringe religious/political beliefs, unusual moral system, that sort of thing.
16. Not being interested in parties/clubs/gatherings/etc.
17. Being very monogamous, wanting a virgin to marry, stuff like that.
18. Being a "quitter".
19. Rejecting women once you do get a chance due to some psychological problems or whatever (including body dysmorphia).
20. Not really meeting women, even if you have some sort of social life.
And much, much more, I guess. Again, depends on the woman. I've read stories on here that suggest that even suicidally depressed and disabled, sometimes even unhygienic or overweight, women can basically just grab an attractive, popular and successful (often older, as well) guy and suddenly move in with him and get a regular life going; so it's not looking great for those of us that can't provide anything. So it's important to not have to tangle with any body dysmorphia on top of everything else. Not to sound too pessimistic, a relatively normal guy shouldn't have a problem if he meets many women.
Anyway, in my opinion the only problem with your penis size is that it makes you less confident, basically. If you manage to get a girl to want to see that penith, worry about it then rather than now, if at all possible. And great that you think that it's a possibility that someone will eventually have sex with you, it's way more hope than I have, but I'm personally more or less checking all of those 20 points, heh.
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Weebster
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lofticries
obedear
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Sounds average to me. And if you're on the short side it'll appear bigger.
Porn has warped everyone's mind to thinking women need monster
s to get off.
Porn has warped everyone's mind to thinking women need monster
s to get off.
Marine
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I feel the need to dispel unnecessarily harmful and limiting ideas about the following points because I think it could help :
1. Being a NEET.
2. Being autistic.
6. Not having a college degree.
7. Not being confident.
9. Being "needy".
10. Making less money than her.
11. Living with parents.
12. Dressing poorly. (it matters a little but can easily be improved)
13. Not driving a car.
15. Having fringe religious/political beliefs, unusual moral system, that sort of thing.
16. Not being interested in parties/clubs/gatherings/etc.
As a woman those things are not an issue. It's not for many women. If you're physically and psychologically (including lifestyle wise) compatible those are not a problem. Not every women is super narrow minded. I suggest not limiting yourself because of those at least. Hope it helps.
GenesAndEnvironment
Autistic loser
- Jan 26, 2021
- 5,739
Good eye, these remaining points do seem even more devastating than the others:
3. Not having a social life.
4. Having a bad personality (weakness/volatility/pettiness/spitefulness/stupidity/etc).
5. Being physically unattractive.
8. Being "boring" and/or "negative".
14. Not grooming/washing enough.
17. Being very monogamous, wanting a virgin to marry, stuff like that.
18. Being a "quitter".
19. Rejecting women once you do get a chance due to some psychological problems or whatever (including body dysmorphia).
20. Not really meeting women, even if you have some sort of social life.
Btw, I anticipated and tried to guard against the all-pervasive and automatic "not all women"-response but apparently failed--despite literally writing this:
Marine
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I went out of my way to say that because I've seen it more than once on here and I think it's true for a lot of women, not just isolated cases. Especially people thinking that being a NEET or not being rich was an issue.
I was myself forced to become a NEET because of trauma for a long time and recently because the plandemic robbed me of my activities and I haven't found anything new yet since I must now do things completely differently from before and because I need support as well. It can happen to litterally anyone at any time.
I think many more people are struggling now. This society is sicker than ever. Thriving in it doesn't make one more attractive at all, though finding a way to personally thrive is obviously good but it doesn't have to be the conventional way.
There is no longer any security in this world unless we stick together. What that means is it's the time to help each other, become more understanding and open minded.
The last person I was with was nearly homeless and money-less and that didn't make me love him any less.
I just mean don't shoot yourself in the foot when it's already difficult enough to meet anyone of value and value ourselves properly.
whatevs
Mining for copium in the weirdest places.
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That's just a normal dick. You have cock dysmorphia.
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Dr Iron Arc
Into the Unknown
- Feb 10, 2020
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Tbh this thread is rather insulting to everyone who actually has small penises. If your dick was 4 inches or less that would make sense to feel anxious but worrying about it being five inches is like worrying about being five pounds overweight.
Niko66
Specialist
- Dec 6, 2021
- 352
It's not "technically average" it's quite literally perfectly normal and will look normal unless you are like 7 foot tall.
Idk your situation but after navigating a life time of alienation, isolation and rejection most people will feel differently. You come up to people trying your best to be amicable and connect only to keep failing at it often not even understanding what was wrong. I know it's not all people. I know people too who don't mind some of these things and have myself experienced at least long distance relationships, but the reality is that the grand majority of people do mind these things and when we live in an age where you can scroll through hundreds or thousands of dating prospects from the convenience of your phone there's almost no reason you would ever pick a NEET who doesn't take care of their appearance, has no confidence and needs constante reassurance because they are so insecure, etc etc compared to a "normal" and put together person. It only happens accidentally and in my experience it's mostly people who are likewise familiar with trauma, mental illness and similar hardships who would put up with these things, because they understand each other or because they have likewise mental issues that draw them to people who fit a need. For example someone very deprived of affection and attention will often be more welcoming of a person who's very needy, I've been on both sides of that but I also know more well adjusted people with balanced lifes are much more likely to find this is an issue. Facts is, that's joining the marathon with a wooden leg, you may or not make it and the chances are stacked against you.
They are not just ideas nor even limited to romantic relationships.
Idk your situation but after navigating a life time of alienation, isolation and rejection most people will feel differently. You come up to people trying your best to be amicable and connect only to keep failing at it often not even understanding what was wrong. I know it's not all people. I know people too who don't mind some of these things and have myself experienced at least long distance relationships, but the reality is that the grand majority of people do mind these things and when we live in an age where you can scroll through hundreds or thousands of dating prospects from the convenience of your phone there's almost no reason you would ever pick a NEET who doesn't take care of their appearance, has no confidence and needs constante reassurance because they are so insecure, etc etc compared to a "normal" and put together person. It only happens accidentally and in my experience it's mostly people who are likewise familiar with trauma, mental illness and similar hardships who would put up with these things, because they understand each other or because they have likewise mental issues that draw them to people who fit a need. For example someone very deprived of affection and attention will often be more welcoming of a person who's very needy, I've been on both sides of that but I also know more well adjusted people with balanced lifes are much more likely to find this is an issue. Facts is, that's joining the marathon with a wooden leg, you may or not make it and the chances are stacked against you.
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Nodius
Pray.
- Jun 8, 2022
- 4
Bro, I'm almost in my 30's and the most important life lesson i can give you is don't worry about women and what they think (no offence though). It doesn''t matter how you look, talk or smell.. they always find things to complain about even if you give them a million dollars. Women these days are brainwashing each other with some childish ways of thinking. But when they get older, there is only regret in their minds, unfortunately.
Plus, a too small penis is just a myth, or she just had a lot of D's... but yeah that's not your problem and also not something to commit suicide about. If you knew the size of your friend's penises, you would be surprised at how many people have an average penis. Don't be blinded by this so-called "new standard'. Everything is fake in the end times!
Keep your head up and pray to our heavenly Father, king!
Plus, a too small penis is just a myth, or she just had a lot of D's... but yeah that's not your problem and also not something to commit suicide about. If you knew the size of your friend's penises, you would be surprised at how many people have an average penis. Don't be blinded by this so-called "new standard'. Everything is fake in the end times!
Keep your head up and pray to our heavenly Father, king!
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Marine
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I guess I really have to quote myself over the various dick related posts, goodness gracious me this is quite the day
:I know too well what you're talking about, that's my daily life.
And I'm really sorry you're going through the same thing. But I think we can be somewhat objective about what truly matters in regards to relationships. Those should never be a limiting factor, it will definitely not for people of value. That's what I'm saying. People who discriminate based on that simply aren't worth your time whatsoever, the same way racists, sexists or any kind of judmental human defect as I call them is. I wouldn't think it's the majority though.
Btw I'm on dating sites and I couldn't care less about the occupation of a romantic candidate unless he is into a very unethical business. What you look like and your personality are always the biggest factors in relationships.
Now I didn't say it's ok not to take care of your appearance, we were talking about dressing specifically. I care about appearance and will prefer someone who dresses well obviously, it's just not the most important factor.
Someone insecure will gain in confidence if reassured and validated enough, that's how it works and how to address it. No big deal.
"Put together" or "well adjusted" are misleading and discriminatory terms that only mean priviledged. It's by no means a superiority, it's just luck. Vulnerable people just need the love and support they didn't have to be the same. They're not defective, lacking or less whatsoever.
Some "normal people" have been raised well with humane values and have a good knowledge of psychology and that helps too, it doesn't always take knowing what struggling is like first hand to understand it. There are some very humane and wonderful people even amongts priviledged individuals. I used to have such a friend.
People can also complement each other, not necessarily attract the same.
I know first hand what it's like to be bullied, mocked, rejected and made to feel unloveable unfortunately as that's my main issue and reason to be suicidal. It can be because of anything really. I didn't have any particular physical flaw but trauma is another excuse for morons. People with an inferiority complex will litterally latch onto anything to make themselves feel superior. As soon as they feel that you're insecure they will make use of that. Those people just deserve to be left alone. People worth frequenting will never make fun of you nor discriminate you, they will always show you compassion and support. We just need to find them, and granted it's not always easy, but they're out there. It's important not to self limit on top of the rest is what I'm trying to say.
Al Cappella
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Sibyl Vane
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Passersby
Trapped in space and time
- Aug 29, 2019
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Physical and mental problems ruins everything. You'll be ok with your dick, just have to try to build up some confidence.
bro i have a 2.5 inch micropenis with a thumb girth.
i would love to be 5.5 inch and 4.7 girth.
you very much average and slightly above .
most women prefer average.
no sweat man your case isnt as bad as me it isnt even small.
i would love to be 5.5 inch and 4.7 girth.
you very much average and slightly above .
most women prefer average.
no sweat man your case isnt as bad as me it isnt even small.
Hi friend you seem to have quite a cough, i got some cough syrup and lozenges for you
Marine
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Thanks. That was an embarassment cough as used in internet cultureHi friend you seem to have quite a cough, i got some cough syrup and lozenges for you
(the one I know anyway)
ojinzo
Specialist
- Feb 21, 2022
- 304
I just say, I've been reading penis threads all morning simple because I like penis
however, I must comment on the support angle with which is offered, oftentimes, on this website. One thing I've learned is you are not alone and some prove that you are not so bad. Duck problems have been the least of my issues but it is informative to see how many dudes struggle with this.
however, I must comment on the support angle with which is offered, oftentimes, on this website. One thing I've learned is you are not alone and some prove that you are not so bad. Duck problems have been the least of my issues but it is informative to see how many dudes struggle with this.I must agree. Dick size is nothing to ctb over. You will find someone who loves you. Fyi, I'm totally not a prolifer.
I wouldn't really say it's a myth, more of a preference. I know that the majority of the women in my friend group prefer big dicks and 90% of the women I've hooked up are also vocal about dick size.
A little late to this conversation. But I can say as a women, for me personally, size doesn't matter. It's what's in your heart and brain that matters most. Any women who is decent will like you for who you are inside, not for the size of your dick. And if she says you're too small, you've learned everything you need to know about her and are better off without that person.
Marine
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Not that I really talk about that kind of stuff around but I'm pretty sure this is not what really matters for most of us, at least I really couldn't care less.
Suicidebydeath
No chances to be happy - dead inside
- Nov 25, 2021
- 3,559
Only thing I'll add is that being a NEET is huge! And does matter for majority of women, this is from my experience. It doesn't matter why you're unemployed, it doesn't matter if its from disability. I've been turned down a crazy amount of times for not being employed after a couple of dates. Even just streaming, made the number of incoming offers I had go way up and very quickly, and stopped what is otherwise the first question most people ask 'What is your job?' 'When will you get a job?'. People that I was otherwise compatible with, or already dating made constant requests to find employment, even when they're not working themselves. It's not a money issue, either.
There are a few people that don't care about employment (or other things, like looks) but they're basically unicorns in my experience, and I already dated a ton of people, so I have plenty of experience to back this up. You can probably be attractive and unemployed, or employed and unattractive, but it'd be tough to be both. Besides that I'd agree with the rest of Xion's list that most of those things she listed don't matter.
The main things that matter are looks, employment, grooming, and personality, for most people (that is to say most other people, not the views I subscribe to personally). It helps to be funny, famous or popular. As to cover the OP's question, having an average dick size doesn't matter, having a big dick doesn't help either, it actually can just be painful for everyone. Personality determines whether the relationship lasts or not.
There are a few people that don't care about employment (or other things, like looks) but they're basically unicorns in my experience, and I already dated a ton of people, so I have plenty of experience to back this up. You can probably be attractive and unemployed, or employed and unattractive, but it'd be tough to be both. Besides that I'd agree with the rest of Xion's list that most of those things she listed don't matter.
The main things that matter are looks, employment, grooming, and personality, for most people (that is to say most other people, not the views I subscribe to personally). It helps to be funny, famous or popular. As to cover the OP's question, having an average dick size doesn't matter, having a big dick doesn't help either, it actually can just be painful for everyone. Personality determines whether the relationship lasts or not.
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I understand that, but people try to make it seem as though size mattering is 100% a myth when in fact it's very important to a lot of women.
callme
I'm a loose cannon - I bang all the time.
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21. Never having a job
22. Balding before 30
23. Being obese
24. Having a permanent job nights only
25. ED
Marine
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I would say that we're all different. Like I said for some of us it can be more challenging than anything. Some probably have that preference just like I prefer blond guys but since that's not what matters most, namely when it comes to love, I can understand that hookups might be different, and I was trying to help OP, I wouldn't put the focus there. Maybe technique can overcome that part ? I'm not knowledgeable enough to say anything about that but I'm offering the suggestion.
