My grandmother told me I should never ctb maybe I will be tortured in hell lol

[noname223]

I don't talk with my grandmother about my suicidality. I barely talk to her at all. But she knows it.
She is religious and one time she told me I really should not ctb I might end up in hell lol. I don't want to insult her and I respect her religious belief. But that's complete bullshit. The churches told this to poor, suffering people in order that they don't escape from their hellish lifes and further get money from them. During my first severe depressive episode I was a little bit scared about hell. But I really thought rational about it. I've read philosophers and this is clearly not what I believe. In my opinion there will be nothing after death. Just the same as before I was born. I don't get tricked into even more anxiety about suicide. I think death is peaceful. But the way to achieve it needs a lot of pain to overcome SI.

 

[darkwater]

Of course, the church uses the incarceration to gain influence, just like any absolute ruler does. I'm just surprised that people don't start to think at some point and recognize the structure.

"Just the same as before I was born."
Exactly and one came from this state to consciousness.
Therefore, rebirth seems so logical to me, but this is only my unscientific opinion.

 

[FuneralCry]

I'm not religious at all and I believe there is nothing after death, I really hope there isn't anything as the thought of nothing comforts me. Suicide isn't an act worthy of any punishment, we just want to be free of the suffering this life has given us. If a hell exists, it's this life. It is hard trying to get through to many religious people as they are stuck in their beliefs.

 

[noname223]

Of course, the church uses the incarceration to gain influence, just like any absolute ruler does. I'm just surprised that people don't start to think at some point and recognize the structure.

"Just the same as before I was born."
Exactly and one came from this state to consciousness.
Therefore, rebirth seems so logical to me, but this is only my unscientific opinion.

I don't believe in reincarnation either. Because my mom and dad won't procreate again. My mom and dad might be dead. There won't be anyone again with the same genes/environment or soul as me. Even if my soul would reincarnate I would be a completely different human being. Except you think there is a time loop. I don't believe that there is a time loop either.

 

[darkwater]

But then it would be almost impossible to be here at all.


That just seems too implausible to me. Therefore, I think that consciousness is something else.

 

[user_name_here]

I sometimes think about other dimensions when i think of death. Perhaps its the recent UFO coverage that's got me thinking this, but the universe and life has so many un-answered factors and variables, i guess we can never really know.

As for you grandmother, i think she just doesn't want anything bad to happen to you hence why she used the religious threat as a way to scare you out of the idea of ctb. At least i assume this, just my 2 cents.

Wishing you well either way.

 

[WornOutLife]

Well, it makes sense, I mean, the older the people are, the more believers they tend to be.

I'm not exactly an atheist, ummm, let's say I'm an agnostic. I don't really think there's a God but I can't confirm it, however, I can't see any evidence of him/her/it so, I just live my life as if there was none.
If a smiling guy shows up in the sky smiling at me and showing me his superpowers, I'll just believe in him lol.

Yet, I don't think there's any afterlife. It seems the only sense of this life and existence is that it actually makes no sense.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Eh, even if God was real then if he's as all-powerful and all-knowing as he is purported to be then He should know that Hell is a terrible design for the afterlife. Punishing someone with eternal torment just because they wanted to escape the torment they faced in reality is not only cruel but also unbelievably shortsighted at best and blatantly ignorant at worst. It's like sentencing life in prison to someone found possessing marijuana, not even smoking it, just possessing it.

A real good afterlife should give humans room to grow as people and to face their flaws in order to rehabilitate themselves while being free of the burdens of reality that push so many people to commit sins in the first place.

 

[UterEntonaur]

She is religious and one time she told me I really should not ctb I might end up in hell lol.

Tell her that you'll save her a seat..... because if God loves all his children then she's a blasphemer for saying overwise

 

[WatermelonMel]

But this is already hell, there is no hell afterwards

 

[Largeletters]

Fuck that... I'm really sorry. I genuinely think the Afterlife is either peace or nothingness.

 

[motel rooms]

Eh, even if God was real then if he's as all-powerful and all-knowing as he is purported to be then He should know that Hell is a terrible design for the afterlife. Punishing someone with eternal torment just because they wanted to escape the torment they faced in reality is not only cruel but also unbelievably shortsighted at best and blatantly ignorant at worst. It's like sentencing life in prison to someone found possessing marijuana, not even smoking it, just possessing it.

A real good afterlife should give humans room to grow as people and to face their flaws in order to rehabilitate themselves while being free of the burdens of reality that push so many people to commit sins in the first place.

Like I said yesterday, I'm surprised that nobody believes in an evil Creator. Doesn't an unfair, sadistic God make much more sense than a good daddy?

Our problem is that we think everything revolves around our silly little species & our idea of justice & punishment. Well, it doesn't. No immortal versions of humans with superpowers living on clouds are surveilling us 24/7 & running afterlives to reward the goodies & punish the baddies.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Like I said yesterday, I'm surprised that nobody believes in an evil Creator. Doesn't an unfair, sadistic God make much more sense than a good daddy?

Our problem is that we think everything revolves around our silly little species & our idea of justice & punishment. Well, it doesn't. No immortal versions of humans with superpowers living on clouds are surveilling us 24/7 & running afterlives to reward the goodies & punish the baddies.

That's possible too but then if that were true then it likely really does get worse when we die and technically all the pro lifers are right that the only way anyone can have any hope for avoiding eternal agony is by staying alive which I'd rather not believe in.

 

[Weary Soul]

I can relate @noname223. Told my mother at a young age (pre-teen to early teen age) that I wanted to take my own life and die.

She, being the upstanding religious person she thought she was didn't threaten me with hellfire and brimstone (although they really tried to indoctrinate that BS into my head in church - and no offense to those who are religious here and believe in heaven and hell - this is just my opinion).

Rather, my mother told me that if I did that, I would have to follow her around for eternity begging for her forgiveness... O.O

She was truly an evil person. SMH.

 

[littleloup]

The belief of Heaven and Hell after death was what led me to being an atheist. My mother once told me something similar, trying to scare me but it never worked. Hell doesn't sound like a pleasant place but neither does this life. For me, I would rather take the risk and ctb-ing because at least I know I can escape life. I don't know if Hell actually exists.