Story My experiences with therapy and counseling

[TAW122]

Here I will give my story and my experiences of mental health counseling and therapy as well as give my reasoning of why it has been rather useless for me.

As a young kid, I was the problem child, my parents didn't know how to deal with my issues, temper tantrums, Aspergers, and other behavioral related issues. I also got in trouble at school since I couldn't follow directions and what not. I was sent to see a psychiatrist and psychologist at a young age. I was diagnosed with attention deficit disorder and other stuff, and then later, Aspergers. As a late teen and right around college, I've come to learn that I have Aspergers which explained why I fuck up social interactions, couldn't connect with people, and lacked people skills. I have at least seen over 10 different therapists, counselors, psychologists, and psychiatrists combined in my lifetime, half of which were while enrolled in school (middle and high school, as well as university). With that brief background, I'll give my experiences with therapy and counseling.

My experiences with mental health professionals (therapists, counselors, social workers, and such) have been frustrating at the least, it was useless at best, and at worst, risky. Luckily, I have never been involuntarily committed (locked up, sent to psych ward against my will) nor adjudicated mentally incompetent. I never really broached the topic of death, violence, and suicide for this very fear. While others may have different experiences, I am simply not going to take the risk because I have too much to lose (e.g. gun rights and getting a stain in my background/medical records). With that said, I do regret the time and energy I spent with those people and getting nothing out of it.

My reasoning are as follows:

• 1. Therapy focuses on self insight and getting to know yourself better. I don't need to pay someone exorbitant amounts of money just for them to try to get me to know myself better, I already do that on my own, fuck that time waste.
  
  
• 2. Does not address my actual issues (FA, Aspergers, the dating problem, financial worries like job hunting and what not) If I am paying someone to talk to about my issues and they aren't gonna help me by giving "practical" advice, get closer to solving them, or any solutions, then it is a waste of time.
  
  Ok, suppose there was one that could and will solve my issues. First off, I'm not going to waste my time and money to gamble with thousands of different therapists (I don't have the time and money to trial and error -- will take decades maybe a life time, no thanks) just to "maybe" find one that works, and even then, it's likely that I'll be broke and/or disappointed. Second off, suppose after x amount of therapist and what not, found the perfect one yay, but then it turns out it was only partially effective at best? Well I've done just wasted my time and money.
  
  
• 3. Mindset of suicide is never an answer. Or cliche, pro-life bullshit. While I never broached the topic (as it is too risky and rather not play with verbal landmines and fire), I do know situations where individuals have suffered involuntary hospitalizations and being detained against their will, treated like an animal/infant, even though they haven't done anything wrong or broken the law.
  
  
• 4. A way to vent. Perhaps there are people who vented to them and it was therapeutic for them and that's great. Just not for me.
  
  
• 5. From #4, just coping and accepting bullshit. I have my ways coping, thank you very much, and I won't just accept things as it is, fuck that. If I can't change it and can't (and/or won't) get over things, then suicide is an option. I shouldn't have to lower my standards to just accept bullshit; this is the same shit normies do to others who are inferior to them to keep them down. Fuck that, I won't be stagnant or inferior. I'd rather die than to accept bullshit.
  
  
• 6. Money, money, money. Certainly not all, but most of them seem to just want money and as long as you have money, they will keep scheduling you appointments and keep you coming until you're broke, then (in their eyes) you're cured. I didn't pay for the sessions I had when I was a student, but holy shit does that get expensive at a private practice. Oh, btw, I have much better uses for money, such as spending it on things that I will at least enjoy and get something out of, be it porn, gourmet food, video games, other hobbies, etc.

There are more reasons, but I think these are the main ones. So in conclusion, this is why I don't seek therapy, counseling, and why mental health professionals are often a waste of time. The only exceptions are: to get on welfare, disability benefits, diagnosis, or drugs (psychiatrist).

 

[sadsoul]

I agree with the points you brought up. In my experience, venting (#4) to someone on here is much better than venting to a therapist because people on this forum actually understand you and don't judge you. You can talk about anything, even suicide, without the fear of being locked up. You can be yourself, basically.

 

[sadsoul]

I agree with the points you brought up. In my experience, venting (#4) to someone on here is much better than venting to a therapist because people on this forum actually understand you and don't judge you. You can talk about anything, even suicide, without the fear of being locked up. You can be yourself, basically.

Also I feel like therapists can't really show too much compassion because they have to be "professional". I need someone who hugs me and holds me when I cry, not someone who has to be distanced because of professionality lol. I want a friend who I can trust and who truly cares about me, not someone who just does their job. I don't want someone who gives me useless advice that I could have come up with myself, I don't want to hear pro-life bs, and I don't want to hear how my problems are just in my head and how society/life itself is actually fine. What I want is someone who understands me and is there for me.

 

[TAW122]

Also I feel like therapists can't really show too much compassion because they have to be "professional". I need someone who hugs me and holds me when I cry, not someone who has to be distanced because of professionality lol. I want a friend who I can trust and who truly cares about me, not someone who just does their job. I don't want someone who gives me useless advice that I could have come up with myself, I don't want to hear pro-life bs, and I don't want to hear how my problems are just in my head and how society/life itself is actually fine. What I want is someone who understands me and is there for me.

Which is another important reason I have for ctb'ing. I grew up in the 90's and hugging was ok until the turn of the century, then it slowly phased out into being socially unacceptable. Also, I fucking hate those who throw such pro-life bs, how problems are just my own fault, how this (twist and sick) society is actually improving (give me a fucking break), and how I should just accept things the way they are. Worse yet, those people have the gall to say well vote to change or then do something.

Well, to the pro-life fuckers, I would have done something to change things if I could, do you think I would be complaining if I could just wave a fucking magic wand and change things to my liking? The answer is no.

 

[Weeping Garbage Can]

Also I feel like therapists can't really show too much compassion because they have to be "professional". I need someone who hugs me and holds me when I cry, not someone who has to be distanced because of professionality lol. I want a friend who I can trust and who truly cares about me, not someone who just does their job. I don't want someone who gives me useless advice that I could have come up with myself, I don't want to hear pro-life bs, and I don't want to hear how my problems are just in my head and how society/life itself is actually fine. What I want is someone who understands me and is there for me.

Aww, you deserve all of this and more, I'm really sorry you were denied such amenities gives you a huge blue whale hug

 

[housecat]

It is interesting to read this. I have not yet gone to therapy because it's hard to imagine it being anything other than a waste of time and money. It's also concerning that honesty could get me locked up.

 

[CornerE]

• 5. From #4, just coping and accepting bullshit. I shouldn't have to lower my standards to just accept bullshit; this is the same shit normies do to others who are inferior to them to keep them down. Fuck that

That's what I hated the most about psychiatric staffs and most people in general .
Even if there is many ways you could solve your problems and serves your best interests and dignity , they fight that and would do anything to deprive you any better life you long for .

They actually try to force everyone to accept (cope with) current bad and humiliating circumstances (they actually contribute to with abuses in their wards) while pushing you towards horrible decisions that would obviously make your life hell .

They are so spiteful and malice .
They only feel better about themselves when others' lives is worse .

____


Last night I was so desperate for real help that I tried to reach out my old therapist ( she's not a physician , just does the talking /sessions ) even though I know she wouldn't really help out.

Thanks goodness her phone number was out of service (she quit the job) She could have made it worse - Who knows .

The thing is , when we're so hopeless and so much in need for help , we would reach anyone for help , which would make things worse .

That's why it is a technique many creepy assholes use to take advantage of people .
They either corner you to be hopelessly trapped with no choice or hope for any helping hand .
Or choose their victims who are already trapped and helpless .

Psychiatrics know better about those techniques of screwing others over for money and power over the helpless .

____


God , how I like to switch worlds , if only there is other worlds available and reachable .

When I heard about that black hole they're all talking about , I felt like I wanna face that thing (if it is real) and let me get swallowed to no where .

But I won't disappear that way , I'm probably gonna end up in another shit hole struggling for nothing .

 

[Weeping Garbage Can]

God , how I like to switch worlds , if only there is other worlds available and reachable .

I wish all of you guys could move to a better, kinder, higher quality world

 

[CornerE]

I wish all of you guys could move to a better, kinder, higher quality world ❤

You're so sweet @Weeping Garbage Can
and I don't think you're anything close to a garbage can .
I wish you the best you choose for yourself <3

 

[TAW122]

That's what I hated the most about psychiatric staffs and most people in general .
Even if there is many ways you could solve your problems and serves your best interests and dignity , they fight that and would do anything to deprive you any better life you long for .

They actually try to force everyone to accept (cope with) current bad and humiliating circumstances (they actually contribute to with abuses in their wards) while pushing you towards horrible decisions that would obviously make your life hell .

They are so spiteful and malice .
They only feel better about themselves when others' lives is worse .

____


Last night I was so desperate for real help that I tried to reach out my old therapist ( she's not a physician , just does the talking /sessions ) even though I know she wouldn't really help out.

Thanks goodness her phone number was out of service (she quit the job) She could have made it worse - Who knows .

The thing is , when we're so hopeless and so much in need for help , we would reach anyone for help , which would make things worse .

That's why it is a technique many creepy assholes use to take advantage of people .
They either corner you to be hopelessly trapped with no choice or hope for any helping hand .
Or choose their victims who are already trapped and helpless .

Psychiatrics know better about those techniques of screwing others over for money and power over the helpless .

____


God , how I like to switch worlds , if only there is other worlds available and reachable .

When I heard about that black hole they're all talking about , I felt like I wanna face that thing (if it is real) and let me get swallowed to no where .

But I won't disappear that way , I'm probably gonna end up in another shit hole struggling for nothing .

There is so much truth to this. Especially the part in regards to psychiatrists and people taking advantage of the weak and vulnerable. It sucks that we are already desperate and helpless, yet when we try to get help, things only get worse for us (more shunning, ostracization, and of course involuntary force -- being locked up against one's will).

 

[netrezven]

I think the main reason for psychology to exists is to place the people in norms, so they can play their minor role in "society". Main reasons for depression is the comparison of how we live and how we "should" live based on public opinion, not ours.
1.Getting to know yourself better - hours of interpretations, someone else telling you who you are, what you think, why you think it, what you should do, what is good and what is bad...waste of time.
2.Most of the addressed issues - simply frames in witch you fall when you are not "normal", and again they give you frame you should follow /except for health problems and death/
3.At least one therapist said to me that considering ctb is logical, never said to me not do it, no moral judgments at all. As i see it if you wan't to close that chapter there are few ways - do it temporary or stay alive and act as you want, or both. No overthinking.
4.A way to vent - this actually works.
5.Can't agree with accepting bullshit - we can't control the shit, but can react to it /only in most cases/.
6.Money - you need them if you wan't the least in life anyway. Money are just simple contract between humans. No one asked us, but the contract is still going. So exploiting it is the best solution for most of us.
However the conversations i had lately with my therapist have positive effect on my cash and mood. My world is not simple and boring and it is a way to know that i'm not living in a f*cking movie, created by my brain only.

 

[TAW122]

I think the main reason for psychology to exists is to place the people in norms, so they can play their minor role in "society". Main reasons for depression is the comparison of how we live and how we "should" live based on public opinion, not ours.
1.Getting to know yourself better - hours of interpretations, someone else telling you who you are, what you think, why you think it, what you should do, what is good and what is bad...waste of time.
2.Most of the addressed issues - simply frames in witch you fall when you are not "normal", and again they give you frame you should follow /except for health problems and death/
3.At least one therapist said to me that considering ctb is logical, never said to me not do it, no moral judgments at all. As i see it if you wan't to close that chapter there are few ways - do it temporary or stay alive and act as you want, or both. No overthinking.
4.A way to vent - this actually works.
5.Can't agree with accepting bullshit - we can't control the shit, but can react to it /only in most cases/.
6.Money - you need them if you wan't the least in life anyway. Money are just simple contract between humans. No one asked us, but the contract is still going. So exploiting it is the best solution for most of us.
However the conversations i had lately with my therapist have positive effect on my cash and mood. My world is not simple and boring and it is a way to know that i'm not living in a f*cking movie, created by my brain only.

Nice interpretations of my reasons, and yes in regards to #4, it can help some people (and I'll admit while it has allowed me to get some things off my chest, it doesn't have any permanent or long term effects on my situation at large), especially if all the person wants is to vent, then great. In regards to the therapist who doesn't have moral judgments about death and suicide, kudos to him/her, and I wished there are more therapists and counselors who are more open, less judgmental, and less over-reactive when it comes to these sensitive topics.