RitaM

RitaM

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Aug 26, 2018
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Hi

I failed earlier in the year and ended up in hospital before being sectioned. I wan't to make sure I don't fail again, so I wanted to share my plan and ask for your opinions on what I could do differently or improve.

After I've written my will, tied up my affairs etc, I plan to buy two disposable barbecues and some sort of tray to fill with water and put them in later, to keep them from burning anything.

I then plan to drive somewhere remote and light the barbecues outside of the car. While I wait for the flames to die down and the coals to turn white, I will take diazepam, zopiclone and drink alcohol.

I will tape up all vents in the car.

Once the coals are white, I will place them in the tray with the water and position it on the floor of the back of my car.

I will check the CO levels are sufficient with a detector.

Assuming the levels are sufficient, I will get into the front of my car, shut the door, fall asleep and hopefully never wake up.

Some questions I have:

1. What sort of CO detector do I need to buy to be able to see the levels are sufficient?

2. How can I avoid my car catching fire?

3. Where can I go that would be out of the way enough that I wouldn't be found? I'm in SE England, which has lots of countryside, but also lots of walkers and doggers.

4. How long will it take from lighting the barbecues to getting to the point they are ready to place in the car?

Ideally I would do this at home, in my medium-sized completely tiled bathroom, lying down under a nice blanket. However, I'm worried the space is too large and I would fail. Also, even though it's a very new building with solid walls (and I would be sure to tape doors, windows, vents etc.) it's a block of flats and I'm afraid it would kill my neighbours.

Thanks.
 
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1. TPi 707 only a meter than can read up to 10,000ppm is of any use. A level above 3000ppm is to be aimed for.
I'm not buying a meter but did borrow one to do tests.

2. By placing the disposible on a metal tray of water, sideways so its resting on the tray above the water, ideally in the boot.

3. I'm using a campsite so I can be drunkish + benzo'd without breaking the law regarding being unfit to be in charge of a vehicle.

4. An hour to 2 hrs.

Practice at least twice first.

http://www.stourbridgenews.co.uk/ne...rbecue_in_car_in_Belbroughton__inquest_hears/

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How do I test the concentration levels without actually getting in the car, presumably causing them to drop as I open the door?

My biggest worry about this plan is where to go where people won't be wondering what I'm doing, sitting out for 2 hours in the dark with a lit but empty barbecue.

I can't practise. I'm so exhausted and pained from everything it will take me all my strength just to do anything at all.
 
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I put the meter in the car at the same time as the charcoal and read the meter readings through the window.

Yes, thats why a campsite is good. Pick a quiet spot to pitch a cheap tent so it looks like you're camping. Light the bbq an hour before it'll be dark then you'll be able to place it in the car after dark and nobody will see or care anyway.
 
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To test it just put the meter somewhere you can read it from outside. When the test is over open the door and walk away without breathing for the first step or two. Should work imo. I have not done this though just making an educated guess.
 
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I can't seem to find a proper meter capable of reading such high levels. I think I'm just going to have to go without and hope for the best. Do I let the BBQs die out naturally? And then how long before I put them in the car? And then how long before I get in the car?

Thanks
 
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I can't seem to find a proper meter capable of reading such high levels. I think I'm just going to have to go without and hope for the best. Do I let the BBQs die out naturally? And then how long before I put them in the car? And then how long before I get in the car?

Thanks
Any meter than can measure up to 10000ppm is going to be really expensive tbh
 
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I can't seem to find a proper meter capable of reading such high levels. I think I'm just going to have to go without and hope for the best. Do I let the BBQs die out naturally? And then how long before I put them in the car? And then how long before I get in the car?

Thanks
If you're going to use a chimney starter, it usually takes roughly an hour. Then you transfer the coals to a grill or steel bucket, already good to go. To be safe, put it atop something else, like a metal tray. As for getting in the car, some prefer to wait 30 minutes to accumulate CO but once the door is reopened, CO decreases, so I'll probably go in at the same time.
 
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It wouldn't be a chimney starter - just a couple of disposable BBQs which are charcoal briquettes in metal trays.

I really want to avoid any prolonged period of headache / nausea which may lead me to panic and open the door.
 
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It wouldn't be a chimney starter - just a couple of disposable BBQs which are charcoal briquettes in metal trays.
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Don't get the briquette type charcoal in disposables as that single sheet of lighting paper rarely gets them lit well. You want lumpwood charcoal in disposables. The best uk make is barbequick.

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Don't get the briquette type charcoal in disposables as that single sheet of lighting paper rarely get them lit well. You want lumpwood charcoal in disposibles. The best make is barbequick.

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I've seen people say don't use charcoal that's been stored in a damp place, how much of an issue is this really? I have 2 easy light bags of lumpwood I was going to throw in my charcoal burner, only got them a month or so ago but they have been in the shed the whole time.
 
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If the shed is damp get new. It does absorb moisture easily.
 
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If the shed is damp get new. It does absorb moisture easily.
It's still pretty much sealed in the little individual bags but I'll check at the store if they have some I'm just not really able to spend money inconspicuously really. It's not super damp in my shed but UK is generally pretty damp no matter where you go, not sure how bad it would have to be to make the coal unusable. I've used older coal in a bbq before and it was fine but again not sure if it affects CO.
 
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Ugh... This thread just makes me feel like I don't have a chance... I don't have the energy, money, or drive to fucking fight with all of this. I just want to die...

Why does this have to be so hard? I just want out...
 
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RitaM

RitaM

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What's up Fyrinne?
 
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I just want it over, and there's always a fucking catch or a bunch of caveats. I just wish I had a gun so I could just end it quickly, because I just don't have the energy to keep failing over and over...
 
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RitaM

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I know how you feel. It's so hard, isn't it? I wish I had a gun to just get it over with. There are so many obstacles.
 
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