Most lethal non-prescription drug?

[Wannadie]

I'm talking about things you can actually buy in stores so no illegal drugs or anything and available in Europe... I know I won't die overdosing on non-prescription pills most likely and I plan on dying by using sn but I don't have it yet and I'm feeling super suicidal today and I want to get myself in the hospital for a few days to get a break from life (I'm already inpatient so I'm not worried about a suicide attempt leading to a forced admission or anything). I've done Tylenol obviously before lol, Aspirin and I've downed two Lithium battery's in the past so those are methods I can't use anymore and they were all really unpleasant so I would like something that is a bit less unpleasant if it's possible.

Maybe I'm asking the impossible though

Important notes: It doesn't matter if it kills me, it doesn't extremely matter if it won't. As long as it will keep me in hospital for my physical health for a day or 3.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this

 

[Angel2018]

Hmmm... I would say paracetamol or antifreeze. But antifreeze tastes like shit^^" Ibuprofen and Iron tablets work as well. All of this stuff could kill you if you wait for more than 24 hours before you go to a hospital. But it's painful and it is possible that the docotors can save you even if you waited for some time after you have taken the pills. AND you could have permanent liver damage after this. But see it the "positive" way: If you get permanent liver damage you'll get painkillers and other strong medics that you need to take and that can kill you if you OD with them. The "worst" thing that could happen is that they save your life and look you up in a clinic. So... good luck I guess^^

PS: I know my english's horrible. I'm from germany XDDD

 

[hunter_lewis]

Hmmm... I would say paracetamol or antifreeze. But antifreeze tastes like shit^^" Ibuprofen and Iron tablets work as well. All of this stuff could kill you if you wait for more than 24 hours before you go to a hospital. But it's painful and it is possible that the docotors can save you even if you waited for some time after you have taken the pills. AND you could have permanent liver damage after this. But see it the "positive" way: If you get permanent liver damage you'll get painkillers and other strong medics that you need to take and that can kill you if you OD with them. The "worst" thing that could happen is that they save your life and look you up in a clinic. So... good luck I guess^^

PS: I know my english's horrible. I'm from germany XDDD

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[Armadillo]

It seems like diphenhydramine is the "best." I think it is quite fatal if taken in a large enough dose, but I've heard mixed things about it peacefulness.

DPH at high doses acts as a delirant, some people find the effects pretty scary and unpleasant. Moreover I don't know if it's an OTC sleep medication in the country where OP lives.

There are not many good options, I'm sorry, expecially not peaceful ones. You could use NSAIDs, DXM (2-3 grams should put you at risk of serotonin syndrome), ephedrine/pseudoephedrine, caffeine pills, antifreeze if it doesn't make you puke up but I do not in any way think any of those is a good idea. It's not worth risking permanent damage to your body just for a few days of hospitalization.
Your choice anyway, you know what's best for you.
Hugs and good luck

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

You don't have to do any of that just tell them your feeling suicidal and you have a method (rope).

 

[Limbo]

None that I would even come close to recommend. There is a reason why they are non prescription. Its hard to kill yourself with. Long term damage is the most likely end result.

 

[Retched]

I'm talking about things you can actually buy in stores so no illegal drugs or anything and available in Europe... I know I won't die overdosing on non-prescription pills most likely and I plan on dying by using sn but I don't have it yet and I'm feeling super suicidal today and I want to get myself in the hospital for a few days to get a break from life (I'm already inpatient so I'm not worried about a suicide attempt leading to a forced admission or anything). I've done Tylenol obviously before lol, Aspirin and I've downed two Lithium battery's in the past so those are methods I can't use anymore and they were all really unpleasant so I would like something that is a bit less unpleasant if it's possible.

Maybe I'm asking the impossible though

Important notes: It doesn't matter if it kills me, it doesn't extremely matter if it won't. As long as it will keep me in hospital for my physical health for a day or 3.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this

I wish I knew. I really wish I knew. I have several bottles of meds that I know won't do much but make me sick but they taunt me.

 

[intr0naut]

Maybe drotaverine...but i don't think it's quite peaceful and not sure if can be found in western countries...

 

[Sayo]

The PPeH has information on how to carry out safe suicidal gestures.

That being said, in most places it should be sufficient to show up and simply lie about being an immediate threat to yourself. Say that you are suicidal, that you have a method and are willing to carry it out, etc.

Reliably lethal medication is in most places regulated so that it can't be sold OTC, never mind in real doses. In some places you might be able to get chloroquine? It's not readily available where I live. I do not recommend that method either, but there is a lot of literature on chloroquine poisoning.

 

[Trashcan]

It might be best to just say you're suicidal. An overdose on anything is too risky. You could even end up with complications.

 

[TiredHorse]

It might be best to just say you're suicidal. An overdose on anything is too risky. You could even end up with complications.

If you're counting votes, add mine to this sentiment. You could make your life considerably worse --and perhaps incapacitate yourself from exiting later-- by such a gesture. No one will think the worse of you if you openly ask for help. A lot of people --including those here-- will applaud you.

 

[Wannadie]

Thank you for all the replies guys. I haven't done anything yesterday and just ended up bleaching my hair, lol. The thought is still tempting though and I'll think about all the recommendations. Telling someone about my suicidal thought isn't going to give the results I want though, because I want to get medically I'll and be in a physical hospital and that's not happening when I tell someone I have the means to kill myself. Thank you all x

 

[Eowyn]

As above, diphenydramine, or also promethazine, combined with codeine which can be cold water extracted from OTC co-codamol. In a high enough dose will cause respiratory depression. I had a go with codeine (approx 100mg solution) plus promethazine (2x25mg tablets) and alcohol last week (was not a serious attempt, more just for my own research to see the effects it would have on me) and ended up with Cheyne–Stokes respiration and incredibly drowsy. Shut my eyes and woke up approx 20 hours later. Maybe more would cause comatose effect? Would not recommend an excess of diphenydramine alone, in my experience caused some very odd and distressing thoughts and an upset stomach.x

 

[scales]

I'm talking about things you can actually buy in stores so no illegal drugs or anything and available in Europe... I know I won't die overdosing on non-prescription pills most likely and I plan on dying by using sn but I don't have it yet and I'm feeling super suicidal today and I want to get myself in the hospital for a few days to get a break from life (I'm already inpatient so I'm not worried about a suicide attempt leading to a forced admission or anything). I've done Tylenol obviously before lol, Aspirin and I've downed two Lithium battery's in the past so those are methods I can't use anymore and they were all really unpleasant so I would like something that is a bit less unpleasant if it's possible.

Maybe I'm asking the impossible though

Important notes: It doesn't matter if it kills me, it doesn't extremely matter if it won't. As long as it will keep me in hospital for my physical health for a day or 3.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this

If you don't want to die but want to end up in the hospital you can check yourself in as being suicidal at the emergency room. You will be checked into the hospital for it.

If you don't want to do that, you want to make sure you don't cause permanent damage to yourself so pick a method that is easily reversible like SN, however if it is too reversible you can be discharged early and won't be able to stay in the hospital a few days...

Maybe try taking a random concoction of pills and just calling 911 to say you took them?

 

[WhoStevik]

I like opiates but no one is OTC where I live :(
Promethazine can be lethal? If yes, how about the amount (like 6 or 7g)?

 

[Skathon]

Phenobarbital is legal in Eastern Europe.

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

How can I buy some pentobarbital from Eastern Europe?

 

[EndofMyRope]

Since you said you've tried paracetomol before, you know that's a good "stand-by""... unfortunately, it's painful and will likely last for quite a few days. I took 24,000mg of Tylenol during my last try and ended up horribly sick for 5 days. I didn't go to the hospital because I just wanted it to be over, but obviously, it didn't work.

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

Chloroquine

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

Tell us about chloroquine please.

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

Tell us about chloroquine please.

It's an anti- malaria medication which you can get in most countries or even online without a prescription. Overdosing on chloroquine will typically result in a cardiac arrest. PPeH has a chapter on it.

 

[Retched]

Of course the first thing I google about chloroquine is that there is an uncommon death...

 

[Suicideisnirvana]

Codein. In my country you can get nodol (paracetamol + codeine) without prescription, then you'd have to filter the codeine.

 

[WhoStevik]

Since you said you've tried paracetomol before, you know that's a good "stand-by""... unfortunately, it's painful and will likely last for quite a few days. I took 24,000mg of Tylenol during my last try and ended up horribly sick for 5 days. I didn't go to the hospital because I just wanted it to be over, but obviously, it didn't work.

Ugh. One time I had too much alcohol and take some carisoprodol pills, like 7 pills I think (this was like 125g of carisoprodol and 300mg of acetaminophen each pill!) and the other day I was thinking that I fucked my liver, but I was only delirious. Can you tell me your experience with paracetamol?

 

[Wannadie]

Ugh. One time I had too much alcohol and take some carisoprodol pills, like 7 pills I think (this was like 125g of carisoprodol and 300mg of acetaminophen each pill!) and the other day I was thinking that I fucked my liver, but I was only delirious. Can you tell me your experience with paracetamol?

I know you didn't ask me but I od'd three times on paracetamol so maybe my experience can help too (:

The first time was with 40 x 500 mg (=20,000 mg) and this was also the most severe one in terms of the effects. After about 8 hours I started vomiting extremely and about 3 hours later my foster parents took me to A&E where they took my blood and quickly figured out what was wrong so I got an antidote in the IV. I ended up in the hospital for 5 days with the first 3 days on the heart monitor and they were already making calls with the specialised liver unit in the country for a transplant because they taught my liver would fail. After the third day my liver decided to make less bad things (idk how to say this in English) and I didn't end up needing the transplant luckily! I was vomiting extremely for the first 2 days (read: at least every half hour there would be a vomit ATTACK) and after the third day or so I think I stopped throwing up. On the 5th day I was released but I did have to come back the next day and 3 days after that for more blood tests and a urine sample. Foster parents were furious with me.

Second time was with the same amount, but I only had to stay in the hospital for 3 days. On an IV drip again but the heart monitor was gone after the first night. The first night was yet again constant vomiting till the point where I was having panic attacks (not a great combination) and it was horrible. Second day I was still vomiting but only once an hour or so and the third day I was fine. My liver did the job pretty OK and there were no real consequences.

The last time was with 60 x 500 mg (30,000 mg) and it was basically the same as above.

Tldr; you'll vomit your guts out for days, more severe than you've ever experienced probably. Oh and everything will smell like paracetamol which is oddly distressing

 

[WhoStevik]

Right, thank's for share your experience @Wannadie, I think you is very lucky if your liver are ok now!

 

[eve2004]

DPH at high doses acts as a delirant, some people find the effects pretty scary and unpleasant. Moreover I don't know if it's an OTC sleep medication in the country where OP lives.

There are not many good options, I'm sorry, expecially not peaceful ones. You could use NSAIDs, DXM (2-3 grams should put you at risk of serotonin syndrome), ephedrine/pseudoephedrine, caffeine pills, antifreeze if it doesn't make you puke up but I do not in any way think any of those is a good idea. It's not worth risking permanent damage to your body just for a few days of hospitalization.
Your choice anyway, you know what's best for you.
Hugs and good luck

Pseudoephedrine in large doses/pill (internet, not store) plus any sort of stimulamt you can obtain (RC or not).

 

[Orbitc]

DPH at high doses acts as a delirant, some people find the effects pretty scary and unpleasant. Moreover I don't know if it's an OTC sleep medication in the country where OP lives.

There are not many good options, I'm sorry, expecially not peaceful ones. You could use NSAIDs, DXM (2-3 grams should put you at risk of serotonin syndrome), ephedrine/pseudoephedrine, caffeine pills, antifreeze if it doesn't make you puke up but I do not in any way think any of those is a good idea. It's not worth risking permanent damage to your body just for a few days of hospitalization.
Your choice anyway, you know what's best for you.
Hugs and good luck

Ephedrine can only kill if you have a heart condition or have blood clots that break off and cause a stroke. It is very easy to overdose on drugs that cause hypertension, but it is difficult to die from them - I played sports and have extensive experience using drugs like clenbuterol and ephedrine. I never even considered such options))) I read about a large number of people who died from an overdose of anaprilin. Including several children died from propranolol. In my country, anapriniline/propranolol is available without a prescription. But I will use propranolol with SN

Drugs like Ephedrine or Clenbuterol that act on adrenaline will not kill you - there is very little chance of this. I overdosed on clenbuterol many times - tremors, high blood pressure and fever are the most you'll get. Anaprilin and verapamil are the only non prescription drugs that can kill you