Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
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Starting this in consideration that with some of the failures seen by fellow members, the cause of failure was being caught, hospitalised and then even worse, transferred to a psychiatric unit.
So there are some difficulties that come for a number of people so it would be good to share thoughts and ideas on the subject as it is an essential part of any CBT plan.
Some of the difficulties members may have (this list is not exhausted and members are free to add other constraints) are:
1. Shortage of money
2. Physical disability
3. Mental Health issue (may prevent leaving home or anxiety to be anywhere else but the safety of the home).
4. Strict supervision (on a form of official or unofficial suicide watch)
Tried to generalise on the reasons rather than specific examples otherwise the list could go on for pages.
I will obviously omit any scenario where if you live with people and you find yourself in a position that you can have 8 hours overnight without interruption. The method you choose should factor in things like potential noise or whether the people you live with are deep sleepers. Having music on in the background can camouflage certain noise. For those worried about vomiting in their method may want to change their taste in music to something like heavy metal or something along those lines that a retching noise is easily covered. Playing Bach or Enya won't do the trick.
Not doing it at home options
Hotel. With a do not disturb sign on the door, you will have at minimum 16 hours of uninterrupted time as long as you put the 'do not disturb' sign up
Cons: Costs money.
Pros: Guaranteed privacy. Not being found by loved ones
My personal con is that you may also traumatise a housekeeping person. I would put a big note on the floor inside your room telling the housekeeper to not go further into the room any further and call the police.
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Vehicle: Only viable for those ingesting a substance or in-taking a form of narcotic overdose or Exit Bag/gas method
Cons: None that I can see. If borrowing one from someone though they will get rid of it as they certainly would not want to drive around in it anymore. Depending where you park maybe a long time before you are found. If doing it at night, try and think of a place that has some form of passing traffic so a better chance of being found during the day. Doing it it the middle of the woods could mean you are missing for a long time and causes anxiety for those who know you are missing and looking for you. I considered a motorway/highway service station to be a good place as it is not uncommon to see people taking a nap in the car park on long drives.
Pros: Petrol/gas money only. Pick the right spot and you will be uninterrupted for a few good hours. Rent a car with GPS tracking and the car hire company will find you quicker so you can go off the beaten track a bit. Won't be found by a family member or friend.
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Woodland/park: Secluded enough, a lot of privacy
Cons: Being found by someone and traumatising them, especially children. Go way off the beaten path and you may not be found giving an ongoing anxiety for those that will miss you. The only way I can think of mitigating that is to choose your spot in advance and inform people via delayed email or some other method where your body can be found.
Pros: zero money unless you need to pay for some form of transportation to get there.
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Home
Easiest time is obviously when people are not around or asleep. Start to make mental notes of these times and establish what your windows of opportunities are.
If the only time you have is during the night when people are asleep, start a habit that creates a noise. Go to the bathroom in the middle of the night every night (set an alarm). People may come out to see what is going on initially, after doing this for a while they may see it as a habit and stop coming out to check on you. Therefore you get them used to a bit of noise in the middle of the night. Maybe claim insomnia and play music or watch something on a laptop that creates a disturbance. The point is to get them to being comfortable with some noise as a habit. They will soon stop checking.
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So that's my opening thoughts. I rarely see people talking about how they plan not to be interrupted but enough failure stories from members where they are. It's an absolute key part of your plan. For some there is no problem, for others its a real consideration and have to deal with certain constraints as part of their plan.
Feel free to add your own helpful tips or solutions.
So there are some difficulties that come for a number of people so it would be good to share thoughts and ideas on the subject as it is an essential part of any CBT plan.
Some of the difficulties members may have (this list is not exhausted and members are free to add other constraints) are:
1. Shortage of money
2. Physical disability
3. Mental Health issue (may prevent leaving home or anxiety to be anywhere else but the safety of the home).
4. Strict supervision (on a form of official or unofficial suicide watch)
Tried to generalise on the reasons rather than specific examples otherwise the list could go on for pages.
I will obviously omit any scenario where if you live with people and you find yourself in a position that you can have 8 hours overnight without interruption. The method you choose should factor in things like potential noise or whether the people you live with are deep sleepers. Having music on in the background can camouflage certain noise. For those worried about vomiting in their method may want to change their taste in music to something like heavy metal or something along those lines that a retching noise is easily covered. Playing Bach or Enya won't do the trick.
Not doing it at home options
Hotel. With a do not disturb sign on the door, you will have at minimum 16 hours of uninterrupted time as long as you put the 'do not disturb' sign up
Cons: Costs money.
Pros: Guaranteed privacy. Not being found by loved ones
My personal con is that you may also traumatise a housekeeping person. I would put a big note on the floor inside your room telling the housekeeper to not go further into the room any further and call the police.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Vehicle: Only viable for those ingesting a substance or in-taking a form of narcotic overdose or Exit Bag/gas method
Cons: None that I can see. If borrowing one from someone though they will get rid of it as they certainly would not want to drive around in it anymore. Depending where you park maybe a long time before you are found. If doing it at night, try and think of a place that has some form of passing traffic so a better chance of being found during the day. Doing it it the middle of the woods could mean you are missing for a long time and causes anxiety for those who know you are missing and looking for you. I considered a motorway/highway service station to be a good place as it is not uncommon to see people taking a nap in the car park on long drives.
Pros: Petrol/gas money only. Pick the right spot and you will be uninterrupted for a few good hours. Rent a car with GPS tracking and the car hire company will find you quicker so you can go off the beaten track a bit. Won't be found by a family member or friend.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Woodland/park: Secluded enough, a lot of privacy
Cons: Being found by someone and traumatising them, especially children. Go way off the beaten path and you may not be found giving an ongoing anxiety for those that will miss you. The only way I can think of mitigating that is to choose your spot in advance and inform people via delayed email or some other method where your body can be found.
Pros: zero money unless you need to pay for some form of transportation to get there.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Home
Easiest time is obviously when people are not around or asleep. Start to make mental notes of these times and establish what your windows of opportunities are.
If the only time you have is during the night when people are asleep, start a habit that creates a noise. Go to the bathroom in the middle of the night every night (set an alarm). People may come out to see what is going on initially, after doing this for a while they may see it as a habit and stop coming out to check on you. Therefore you get them used to a bit of noise in the middle of the night. Maybe claim insomnia and play music or watch something on a laptop that creates a disturbance. The point is to get them to being comfortable with some noise as a habit. They will soon stop checking.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
So that's my opening thoughts. I rarely see people talking about how they plan not to be interrupted but enough failure stories from members where they are. It's an absolute key part of your plan. For some there is no problem, for others its a real consideration and have to deal with certain constraints as part of their plan.
Feel free to add your own helpful tips or solutions.
