What I enjoy about math is that it doesn't need to be beautiful. I feel like humans drive themselves mad searching and pining for beauty in the natural world or the universe. Math doesn't need to plea or bend to emotions, or all of those fluffy touchy-feely considerations that we need to use to tackle subjective questions. Numbers and mathematical structures as arithmetical objects can exist independently of the thoughts, languages, and practices of human subjects.
There are unknown mathematical truths that people are still searching for. They're there to be discovered and as new mathematical truths are discovered math is "invented" to prove it.
One of the main reasons I'm captivated by math is the beauty. I was wonderstruck by the elegance and power of differential geometry.
I think that within our universe math and science do count as objective truths (but my knowledge of the nature of our universe is subjective).
My guess would be that in any universe consistent enough to bring forth human level consciousness there would be science and mathematics that would be objective truths.
If you have some other kind of non-human intelligence on a planet where there aren't discrete objects, say an intelligence that evolved as some kind of creature on a gas planet where they can't necessarily say here are five rocks, you would have some kind of intelligence that would be totally beyond our way to view the universe rather than our mathematics -
Unless the intelligence is just a single entity, members of the intelligent "species" are likely to be countable by other members of that species.
Mathematics is a language so if you have to visualize ordering a quantity of milk on a shelf then transferring that into math, there is no difference between that and translating a poem into Portuguese? There is a big difference. I can translate a quantity of milk into mathematics, but I can't translate a poem into Portuguese! (And there are more ways to translate a poem that there are a simple quantity of milk).
The last part is the same thing I said in the first comment
Math also make fic unvrs no real phsc etc
Do you mean - Physics is more important than math (in a way)? Also that math is the language of physics (and science)? Physics is concerned with the universe and what its is doing. Math is concerned with its own self importance (*pure* vs applied math anyway). People that go into math are just generally people that like puzzles and stuff. Physics wants know the big questions and the philosophy of things and whats going on rather than just playing with some numbers. As I've said before.
Mathematical physics is interdisciplinary.
Math is a way of modeling
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