Life is a gamble

[throwaway123]

You can never win. Even if you win the the beginning you will ultimately lose in the end. Just like everyone else. It was designed that way and I see that now.
It's sad but its the truth. I can see why people refuse to accept that because its easier to live with a lie than the painful truth.

 

[Roberto]

I don't want to win. Just be another one with the apparent happiness.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Ignorance is bliss the more knowledge and wisdom we gain the more we suffer.

 

[Jayxtri]

Life is too uncertain to conclude on anything. Play if you want or quit....(my view)

 

[Santiago]

Define losing because right now I don't agree with your statement. It comes from a point of view where you solely focus on yourself.

There are lots of things we can do to make the life of others better. And depending on how good your achievements are they can live on after you die.

The idea that death equals losing is one I don't understand. Accomplishing nothing and dying equals losing.

 

[suffering]

That's true. And the biggest 'reward' is boredom. Not to mention that everything decays. Life is shit.

 

[Dead beat dad]

Losing doesn't make you a loser, but we all leave in a similar size box.. well not the Pharos of Egypt, their boxes were massive. I'm not sure the point I'm trying to make.

 

[Ch92921]

Life is too uncertain to conclude on anything. Play if you want or quit....(my view)

i quit

 

[Jean Améry]

You can never win. Even if you win the the beginning you will ultimately lose in the end. Just like everyone else. It was designed that way and I see that now.
It's sad but its the truth. I can see why people refuse to accept that because its easier to live with a lie than the painful truth.

I believe seeing the world for what it is (the immense suffering and injustice that abound everywhere, the meaninglesness of it all) is what leads a lot of people to suicide. So called 'mental health professionals' and society at large regard this realism about life (pessimism) as disease and degeneration and it's certainly not very life-affirming but in the end happiness relies on selective perception (only seeing what one wants to see), egocentrism (blocking out other people's pain and problems) and the ability to believe paltry, optimistic maxims (e.g. everything will work out in the end, we're here to be happy). Ergo delusions, even if they produce positive results.

To me it comes down to the age-old question: is it better to be a happy pig in the mud or a weeping philosopher?

 

[CornerE]

is it better to be a happy pig in the mud or a weeping philosopher?

A weeping philosopher .

I would hate my self as a "happy pig" or if I "fit in the nasty herd" .

I don't mind hating the whole world -- whatever .
But I just can't hate myself .

I can leave/abandon the world/the herd , ignore it and live in my own shell .
But where would I go and leave myself behind .


you have to live with you , therefore you gotta love you and have your full self-respect .

 

[throwaway123]

I believe seeing the world for what it is (the immense suffering and injustice that abound everywhere, the meaninglesness of it all) is what leads a lot of people to suicide. So called 'mental health professionals' and society at large regard this realism about life (pessimism) as disease and degeneration and it's certainly not very life-affirming but in the end happiness relies on selective perception (only seeing what one wants to see), egocentrism (blocking out other people's pain and problems) and the ability to believe paltry, optimistic maxims (e.g. everything will work out in the end, we're here to be happy). Ergo delusions, even if they produce positive results.

To me it comes down to the age-old question: is it better to be a happy pig in the mud or a weeping philosopher?

For me it is all about the meaning of life/existence.

There are a lot of different opinions on this topic but to me it is clear. Life is suffering and therefore not coming into existence means people will not experience pain, nor will they be disadvantaged by not experiencing pleasure as they do not exist.
Antinatalism is the only logical conclusion to reality. Schopenhauer adressed the Fermi Paradox.

From The World as Will and Representation Vol 2:
"[..] we have no ground to assume that there are more perfect intelligences than that of human beings. For we see that even this degree of intelligence is sufficient to impart to the will that knowledge in consequence of which it denies and abolishes itself, upon which the individuality, and consequently the intelligence, which is merely a tool of individual, and therefore animal nature, perish."

taken from 8ch
"The biological purpose. we're automatons evolved to reproduce. But once that is understood, a rational and empathic mind would step back and deny itself. Schopenhauer himself mentioned that this is the reason why we can assume no other higher intelligence that humans can exist (solving the Fermi's paradox of missing aliens). Because human intelligence is enough to figure out the truth and deny itself. Now, considering the high amount of suffering in the world and the immense difficulty of overcoming the survival instinct and the risks associated with it, I see no higher purpose for a rational self aware human being than helping out the human race in it's transition towards non-being."

 

[Jean Améry]

A weeping philosopher .

I would hate my self as a "happy pig" or if I "fit in the nasty herd" .

I don't mind hating the whole world -- whatever .
But I just can't hate myself .

I can leave/abandon the world/the herd , ignore it and live in my own shell .
But where would I go and leave myself behind .


you have to live with you , therefore you gotta love you and have your full self-respect .

If you were a happy pig you wouldn't have enough self-awareness to make that judgement. I for one am not so sure being miserable is the better choice but alas I can't unthink my worldview and erase my experiences.

 

[CornerE]

If you were a happy pig you wouldn't have enough self-awareness to make that judgement. I for one am not so sure being miserable is the better choice but alas I can't unthink my worldview and experiences.

You know what , I think you're right .

Even when I thought about being a pig as a choice , I didn't wanna imagine what it's like to be the pig itself .
I still judged me based on my current perspective .

I've heard lots of old saying that had the same meaning :
The wiser you are , the more miserable ( if that makes sense )
Or : Being stupid is a bless

But yet again ,I don't think that's what makes the difference .

[ Pure heart vs malice one ] does .

Many smart people ( like scientists ) had invested their power of mind to make the world a living hell for most of its population , in exchange for wealth and/or power .

 

[Crimsonskye]

I'm cashing out

 

[Xaphous]

I really feel my life is rigged at every level. I feel like I am denied everything that 'normal people' have. I am no longer sure if it is paranoia, mental illness or truth but it has been my experience.

 

[throwaway123]

I really feel my life is rigged at every level. I feel like I am denied everything that 'normal people' have. I am no longer sure if it is paranoia, mental illness or truth but it has been my experience.

It's the truth and you're not the only one experiencing it.

 

[dandan]

My life is full with small thinking mistakes, a wrong thought at a bad time with a stupid little action had big dramatic bad consequences.... A bad decision, a wrong click of a mouse , a wrong choice, they all led me to the actual hell I'm living in.

 

[TheFinalCountdown]

My life is full with small thinking mistakes, a wrong thought at a bad time with a stupid little action had big dramatic bad consequences.... A bad decision, a wrong click of a mouse , a wrong choice, they all led me to the actual hell I'm living in.

I'm the same. Seconds of indecision have cost me everything. I'd rather die than think about it