lets be honest pro-lifers act like anti-abortion activists. except pro-lifers are 99.99% of the human population.

[asian.neet]

TO ALL PRO-LIFERS


fuckin TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR. Your arguments against suicide are the equivalent of anti-abortion activists saying that "oh no you can't kill babieesss tHaTs MUrdEr" basically you're just telling someone to live without thinking about how their lives will be, if they fucking SUCK or not. That is THE SAME EXACT FUCKING COGNITIVE DISTORTION to someone saying "oh no we got to pRoTEcT thE BaBY" without THINKING ABOUT HOW THE BABY WILL LIVE, whether THEY ARE FUCKING BORN IN POVERTY, HAVE SHITTY PARENTS, etc.

GROW TF UP, HAVE SOME EMPATHY, DON'T COME WHINING ON HOW WE ARE "ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES". STOP BEING A DICK. GROW UP.

 

[Abyssal]

Honestly, that's pretty true.

• A disregard for the wellbeing of the one impacted by the decision
• Public shaming against pro choice individuals
• Us vs Them mentality
• Rooted in the selfishness of the pro life individual
• Decision in either area results in blame put on the individual who made the decision.

I'd say that the difference is that with suicide people have grown more attached, but I've seen many people greatly impacted by their love for an unborn child so I think that disregards that argument.

There's also the fact that a majority of abortions that are too late/don't fit legal standards to be completely are 99% of the time due to unique circumstances such as abuse, trauma, physical injury, accidents, and rape. Sounds a lot like many of the common reasons why people wish to ctb, but this argument could be pushing it a bit.

On a side note, I'm curious if there are any pro life people on this forum. I'd be curious to see how they argue that there's a difference between the two.

 

[asian.neet]

Honestly, that's pretty true.

• A disregard for the wellbeing of the one impacted by the decision
• Public shaming against pro choice individuals
• Us vs Them mentality
• Rooted in the selfishness of the pro life individual
• Decision in either area results in blame put on the individual who made the decision.

I'd say that the difference is that with suicide people have grown more attached, but I've seen many people greatly impacted by their love for an unborn child so I think that disregards that argument.

There's also the fact that a majority of abortions that are too late/don't fit legal standards to be completely are 99% of the time due to unique circumstances such as abuse, trauma, physical injury, accidents, and rape. Sounds a lot like many of the common reasons why people wish to ctb, but this argument could be pushing it a bit.

On a side note, I'm curious if there are any pro life people on this forum. I'd be curious to see how they argue that there's a difference between the two.

Ah, I see. I think that too many people are super selfish at this point without considering what the victim is going through.

About pro-lifers being on this forum, they should be banned (should be redirected back to google type ban where they CANNOT see the website) and we should have stricter account creation guidelines to prevent pro-lifers and trolls like Tantacrul from being on this site.

 

[Abyssal]

Ah, I see. I think that too many people are super selfish at this point without considering what the victim is going through.

About pro-lifers being on this forum, they should be banned (should be redirected back to google type ban where they CANNOT see the website) and we should have stricter account creation guidelines to prevent pro-lifers and trolls like Tantacrul from being on this site.

I understand the sentiment, but in a way I disagree. Before I came to this site I definitely had a great deal of suicidal ideation, but I'd say I was generally pro life from a suicide perspective. My time here has opened my eyes to a more untold approach that I can't help but agree with.

Rather than force pro-life people out (not talking about trolls, they can leave 100%) I feel it is important that they hear what we have to say. If more people saw SaSu as something other than the pro death forum that it most certainly is not then I feel like there's a very real possibility that recovery for people like us would improve, or at the very least that we would be treated as human beings.

 

[Raindancer]

I agree. Both sides need to hear each other out and have proper discourse. It's never good to be inside an echo chamber where no one brings up different opinions. I think the mods do a great job of banning anyone who steps over the line beyond stating an opinion. The only way anything will change is for both sides to listen to each other. Granted it's difficult when this kind of conversation is shut down almost everywhere. I wonder if it would be worthwhile to have a separate section to only discuss pro-life vs. choice? Not sure if there are many prolife people here though.

 

[FuneralCry]

Those people really just disgust me, in general it's just wrong to be pro-life towards other people as after all nobody is obligated to continue delaying the inevitable in this existence they never even consented to being burdened with in the first place. It's cruel how we have to struggle so much to cease existing on our own terms despite the fact that we were so unfairly forced into this futile existence where there is no limit as to how much one can suffer. If someone wants to cease existing on their own terms then it's simply none of their business, it's the individual's personal decision.