Help Legally binding DNR

[Walpurgisnacht]

No emergency worker has taken my DNR seriously; when I tried ctb a couple years ago i not only had a DNR written many months before, i also was explicitly telling them to leave me alone, they dragged me out against my will anyway; they argued I wasn't lucid enough at the time to refuse life-saving treatment, despite that my DNR had been written long before I attempted. (UK btw.)

Is there a way to actually force emergency services to not treat you? Because telling them I don't consent is apparently not enough...

 

[Raven2]

From my understanding DNR are to stop CPR been given when heart or breathing stops sound like in your situation neither was the case.

A DNR order does not mean "do not treat." Rather, it means only that CPR will not be attempted. Other treatments (for example, antibiotic therapy, transfusions, dialysis, or use of a ventilator) that may prolong life can still be provided.

 

[Walpurgisnacht]

A DNR order does not mean "do not treat." Rather, it means only that CPR will not be attempted.

Ah. Is there a more general "do not treat" kind of thing? Because they don't respect me just refusing verbally either.

 

[Raven2]

Ah. Is there a more general "do not treat" kind of thing? Because they don't respect me just refusing verbally either.

Only for end of life care ADRT... 'Advance decision to refuse treatment'

 

[letmegetout]

Yeh so dnar is for cpr and resuscitation only.
It is not a legally binding document


Advance decision to refuse treatment works when you don't have capacity. It needs to be valid tho and that means signed and with witnesses signatures too.
It is a legally binding document but it needs to specify the exact treatment you are refusing under what circumstances.
You may find it difficult to get medical professionals to abide by it if you've tried to ctb tho because one of the clauses is the MCA
Have a read here https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/end-of-life-care/advance-decision-to-refuse-treatment/
And this is a great one to read and a great form to use https://cdn.compassionindying.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/advance-decision-pack-v2.3.pdf
However, even if you have a valid ADRT, if you've attempted to ctb but paramedics or clinicians in a&e believe they can treat you and you have no underlying terminal diagnosis and all effects of the attempt can be reversed they might still give treatment. Like if you write 'I want to refuse life sustaining treatment if I would be in a vegetative state' the clinicians may believe the effects of the attempt can be reversed so may provide treatment in that hope, or may question the validity of your ADRT depending on when it was written and signed and how soon after your attempt was and act in your best interests. There are so many unknowns but if you've got a valid DNAR in the UK, you may well be alright