LivedAndNotLoved

LivedAndNotLoved

Leaving here, need to give life another shot!
Feb 28, 2020
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I'm really sorry in advance for what you're going to read. I am not looking for sympathy. I just need to get this off my chest.

I was sexually abused by my uncle when I was 15. He was 72 at the time. But it wasn't the type of abuse you would automatically think of. He groomed me. He made me feel really special. I won't go into it too much but I disclosed what was happening to me once I realised what was actually going on. He was imprisoned and I've never seen him since (I'm 26 now).

But since that time, my life has progressively gone down hill. And its 99% all my fault. I'm absolutely mortified that I have destroyed my entire life. I have been promiscuous, struggled with drinking too much, I have no self worth or respect.

I keep falling for older men who dont love me back

I've had enough

I got an alcohol problem. It blocks out everything

Please help??
 
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Mr2005

Mr2005

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How much older? Sorry, inappropriate. A lot of that sounds like the result of something that wasn't your fault. You just need convincing of that.
 
LivedAndNotLoved

LivedAndNotLoved

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I keep getting involved with people 50+.

Honestly I keep making the wrong choices in life constantly. I keep falling for all these older men and they've even said to my face that they will never ever love me and that they will never love me. I dont deserve sympathy. I've a vile cheat. I made a list the other night of people who are suffering whilst I'm alive (10). People who are benefiting from me believing the benefit of me being alive (2).

I'm so upset x
 
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I don't know what kind of help are your specifying here considering you're in a pro-choice forum so I'm going to assume that you're trying to improve yourself instead of ending your life.

It's never too late if you're trying to change for the better and you're still only 26. I'd prioritise in looking for a therapist and support groups to deal with your alcoholism. That worked for someone I knew.

I can't comment on your other issue though. Apologies.
 
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Steamm

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That's so weird because normally old mans love young women like in your age. Anyway, I don't get what you're trying to say. Shouldn't you be scared by old men due to what happened to you over falling in love?
 
GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

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I wouldn't say at all that it's your fault.

Like you said, he used grooming practices, that is, he conditioned beliefs and behaviors. I'm really glad he was arrested, but now you need help learning how to live in a safe and healthy way.

Have you ever been to a trauma-informed therapist who is trained in techniques like EMDR and recovery from childhood sexual abuse? Have you ever been to any 12-step recovery programs for alcohol or childhood abuse? Some 12-step programs like AA can be blame-y and there can be a lot of predators, so it would be important to find a women's-only group, and make sure to have a sponsor who understands CSA and that it caused alcohol to become a coping mechanism, not defects in character (that's the blame-y part of AA, it doesn't apply to you). Al-Anon can also be helpful for recovering from taking responsibility for another's actions.

Anyhow, those are my thoughts in response to your request for help. I'm glad you reached out and I hope you get some good, safe, and emotionally healthy support.


Anyway, I don't get what you're trying to say. Shouldn't you be scared by old men due to what happened to you over falling in love?

I just want to gently say, she did not fall in love. She was mentally, emotionally, and sexually abused. She was manipulated.
 
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Mr2005

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That's so weird because normally old mans love young women like in your age. Anyway, I don't get what you're trying to say. Shouldn't you be scared by old men due to what happened to you over falling in love?
Yeah and I wanted to say my dad would worship the ground she walked on but again I don't know if admitting what a dirty old man my dad is is exactly what's called for here
 
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LivedAndNotLoved

LivedAndNotLoved

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Feb 28, 2020
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It was my fault
I'm sorry I knew I shouldn't have said anything
 
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Wow, I am so sorry you were sexually abused. That seems like a total Hell-ish thing to go through. I don't think you should be mortified; my take on it is, it's not your entire fault, or even your fault. You were abused and you didn't mention that you got help for it.
I would suggest starting to go to AA. I don't suggest going sober cold turkey. If you'd like to quit, do it gradually. If you quit, it may help with falling for the older men who don't love you. There are plenty of men, I'm sure, that will actually love you.
I don't know if this helped or not. I hope it's not inappropriate or unsolicited. Best of luck to you, whatever your solution may be.
 
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LivedAndNotLoved

LivedAndNotLoved

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Have I annoyed you all?
 
Mr2005

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No what makes you say that? You hate yourself too much and that's coming from me!
 
GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

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It was my fault
I'm sorry I knew I shouldn't have said anything

Reaching out is scary, you were very brave to do it.

You don't know me, but I want you to know that I don't bullshit. I don't lie to people to make them feel better. I understand what conditioning can do to someone, how they can blame themselves for things. I understand how it can lead to making harmful decisions, and relying on substances and harmful people for support.
But for now I have to accept that you believe it was your fault. Perhaps my telling you otherwise sets off fear and panic. I apologize for that, it was my intention to support and offer help. I'm so sorry that you're going through this pain. I respond to your pain with compassion and respect for you.
 
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LivedAndNotLoved

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Feb 28, 2020
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I'm drunk right now.

All my life since I was 15 it's always been in the background what I did. My friends have had to put up with all my issues. My family have never supported me cos half of them blamed me. Like I've said I've been promiscuous and slept with people that dont give a shit about me. I've argued with the family that I have got left, like my mam, my auntie, my poor gran died ashamed of me and she had Parkinson's. I without a doubt caused all that suffering. My uncle went to prison because of me. I've ruined lives. No one loves me and I dont blame them. I'm a vile disgusting person. This is not me looking for sympathy. Like I said me being alive is hurting more people. I'm a 100% believer in karma and I'm literally terrified something really really bad is coming for me. Antidepressants/diazepam doesnt help. Counselling hasnt helped. I'm a hopeless human. I feel so guilty for being alive when I'm useless when others have died and who had so much purpose. I can't have children. I've let my mother down.

I can't stand anything anymore.
 
sadbunny

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Try AA meetings or support groups alike and seek therapy
 
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smile418

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Counselling hasnt helped.

How many therapists have you tried? Oftentimes it takes a while before you find someone that understands you. Maybe it's just me but it sounds like your case is ideal for therapy. If you want you can also pm me and we can talk if you don't like therapy but I'm pretty sure that your case is not hopeless.
 
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I feel like a complete failure as well I understand where your coming from...
 
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GoodPersonEffed

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How many therapists have you tried? Oftentimes it takes a while before you find someone that understands you.

This. The therapist needs to be a good fit. And to remain a good fit.

So do the therapeutic modalities. Studies show that cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) is highly effective for PTSD, and I find that to be utter BS. It's a helpful tool, but you can't fix a house that was damaged by a storm with just one tool. I have a trauma background and have found far more success with EMDR, somatic methods, and energy psychology techniques like EFT, TFT, and TAT. For me, those methods were power tools, while CBT and DBT just helped me with my mindset and, sometimes, awareness, more like guidance than a curative.
 
Sweet Release

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If its any consolation you are not on your own with how you feel.
Its unfortunate that you have fallen into addiction but some of how you feel could be a reaction to trauma.
Shame and believing you are to blame or are being punished can be a very real reaction to things we find too painful to come to terms with.
 
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Hey, I've been lurking on this forum for a few months. I decided to make an account to respond to this, cause reading this really affected me.

I want you to know what happened to you isn't your fault. You talk about being groomed by your uncle as if that makes it somehow less bad than other abuse or makes it your fault or something, but that's absolutely not the case. You were manipulated and exploited by someone you had every reason to trust. That's one of the most horrible things that can happen to a person. It absolutely makes sense for you to be struggling so much.

A lot of survivors of abuse tend to blame themselves for what happened. I think it's a way for you to feel like you have control over you life. In that sense, it's understandable. Your mind is desperately trying to make sense of something that was senselessly horrible. But it isn't your fault. You were manipulated by someone who spent their whole life learning how to exploit others. None of that is your fault.

You found the courage to speak up about what your uncle did, and because of you, he went to jail. That right there proves you're a really brave person. You may well have prevented him from hurting other people, and that makes what you did an incredibly noble act. Far from ruining lives, you may well have saved lives. You deserve so much respect for that.

The fact that you're concerned about annoying or upsetting people here tells me you are a kind and caring person. Even when you're going through hell yourself, you still have the ability to consider the needs of others. That's such an incredible strength to have, and you should be proud of yourself for that.

That said, you should also take care of yourself. Don't worry about upsetting people here; you have the right to ask for help, and you deserve support. You absolutely did the right thing by reaching out, though there may be people better able to support you than us here.

You say you've made mistakes, but so has anyone, and you've had to deal with pain and hardship far beyond what most people experience. Of course you're struggling. Anyone would.

You talk about being promiscuous, but that doesn't make you a bad person. You have the right to express your sexuality as you see fit. Your promiscuity seems like a habit you should change because it seems to be hurting you, but it doesn't make you any less good or valid of a person, and people don't have the right to judge you for it. I won't think less of you for it.

It also needs to be said that it's entirely natural for someone who is hurting like you are to try to find love and affection any way you can. If the men you offer yourself to don't care for you or only exploit you, that's a reflection on them, not you. Even if you are putting yourself in a position to be exploited, the blame still lies on the exploiter. A decent person will see that you're hurting and not try to take advantage of you.

Similarly, your drinking isn't a sign that you're a failure. It's definitely a bad habit that you should change because it's going to damage you, but it doesn't make you a bad person. You're hurting, and you're looking to escape the pain any way you can. That's only natural. You just need to find a healthier way to cope with the pain -- for your own sake because you are worth it, not because of what others think of you.

I'm sorry that your family has blamed you for your struggles, but you don't deserve that. Your family are just people like anyone else, and they can make mistakes. They don't get to decide whether or not you are a valid person.

I know it feels hopeless right now, but I really believe things can get better for you. I've known other people who suffered in ways similar to you, and they were able to build happy and healthy lives. It wasn't easy, and it didn't happen overnight, but they managed it, and I think you can, too. You've already shown that you are so very brave and so very strong, even if you don't feel strong right now.

What happened to you doesn't define you. It's part of who you are, but it's just a part. You are so much more than your pain. Sooner or later you'll find people who can see the whole you and not just your scars, and they're going to love you more than any words could ever express. I've seen it happen to other people in your situation, and it can happen for you, too.

Have you tried dialectical behaviour therapy? It can be hard to find a group, but I think it would really help you make healthier choices. If you haven't already, you should also look into a therapist who has specific training with trauma-informed therapy. I've heard it can really help.

There's not gonna be any magic bullet, but things can get better eventually. For now, I just want you to know you deserve to get better. I know it's hard to take the word of a stranger on the internet, but try to believe it. I know you deserve to live. More than that, you deserve to thrive.
 
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LivedAndNotLoved

Leaving here, need to give life another shot!
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Looking at what I wrote sober scares me.

Thank you all for your support, it really means a lot to see people who don't just fob me off with the "it'll get better" or "go and have your haircut it'll make you feel better" solutions!. I've seen councillors on and off for many years, but they've always been like blocks of 6 sessions and does anyone feel like they expect you to be miraculously cured by the 5th and you should really spend the 6th reflecting how its changed your life, or is it just me? I've said that I don't feel better by the end on some occasions, but they said basically in so many words well you've had your 6 sessions on your way now you know?

I got detained a couple of weeks ago by the police as I tried to overdose and was extremely drunk so they took me to hospital and the doctors said that I am fully functioning cos I've been going to work and that my tablets haven't been given the chance to work properly because they have essentially "deactivated because of the vodka" (her words) I take 80mg propranolol, 150mg sertraline and diazepam. I told them I have a problem with alcohol and that I have suicidal thoughts all the time. So I was discharged and they referred me to the Primary Mental Health Team in my area and I got an appointment next week. My doctor signed me off the next day for a month.

Can you request certain therapies cos I know that general counselling doesn't work for me whatsoever I just want like proper therapy you know?
How much older? Sorry, inappropriate. A lot of that sounds like the result of something that wasn't your fault. You just need convincing of that.
He was 72, I was 15. Thank you that means a lot.
I don't know what kind of help are your specifying here considering you're in a pro-choice forum so I'm going to assume that you're trying to improve yourself instead of ending your life.

It's never too late if you're trying to change for the better and you're still only 26. I'd prioritise in looking for a therapist and support groups to deal with your alcoholism. That worked for someone I knew.

I can't comment on your other issue though. Apologies.
Thank you. I'm going to see if there's any groups around. If you know it has worked for some people maybe theres hope!
Hey, I've been lurking on this forum for a few months. I decided to make an account to respond to this, cause reading this really affected me.

I want you to know what happened to you isn't your fault. You talk about being groomed by your uncle as if that makes it somehow less bad than other abuse or makes it your fault or something, but that's absolutely not the case. You were manipulated and exploited by someone you had every reason to trust. That's one of the most horrible things that can happen to a person. It absolutely makes sense for you to be struggling so much.

A lot of survivors of abuse tend to blame themselves for what happened. I think it's a way for you to feel like you have control over you life. In that sense, it's understandable. Your mind is desperately trying to make sense of something that was senselessly horrible. But it isn't your fault. You were manipulated by someone who spent their whole life learning how to exploit others. None of that is your fault.

You found the courage to speak up about what your uncle did, and because of you, he went to jail. That right there proves you're a really brave person. You may well have prevented him from hurting other people, and that makes what you did an incredibly noble act. Far from ruining lives, you may well have saved lives. You deserve so much respect for that.

The fact that you're concerned about annoying or upsetting people here tells me you are a kind and caring person. Even when you're going through hell yourself, you still have the ability to consider the needs of others. That's such an incredible strength to have, and you should be proud of yourself for that.

That said, you should also take care of yourself. Don't worry about upsetting people here; you have the right to ask for help, and you deserve support. You absolutely did the right thing by reaching out, though there may be people better able to support you than us here.

You say you've made mistakes, but so has anyone, and you've had to deal with pain and hardship far beyond what most people experience. Of course you're struggling. Anyone would.

You talk about being promiscuous, but that doesn't make you a bad person. You have the right to express your sexuality as you see fit. Your promiscuity seems like a habit you should change because it seems to be hurting you, but it doesn't make you any less good or valid of a person, and people don't have the right to judge you for it. I won't think less of you for it.

It also needs to be said that it's entirely natural for someone who is hurting like you are to try to find love and affection any way you can. If the men you offer yourself to don't care for you or only exploit you, that's a reflection on them, not you. Even if you are putting yourself in a position to be exploited, the blame still lies on the exploiter. A decent person will see that you're hurting and not try to take advantage of you.

Similarly, your drinking isn't a sign that you're a failure. It's definitely a bad habit that you should change because it's going to damage you, but it doesn't make you a bad person. You're hurting, and you're looking to escape the pain any way you can. That's only natural. You just need to find a healthier way to cope with the pain -- for your own sake because you are worth it, not because of what others think of you.

I'm sorry that your family has blamed you for your struggles, but you don't deserve that. Your family are just people like anyone else, and they can make mistakes. They don't get to decide whether or not you are a valid person.

I know it feels hopeless right now, but I really believe things can get better for you. I've known other people who suffered in ways similar to you, and they were able to build happy and healthy lives. It wasn't easy, and it didn't happen overnight, but they managed it, and I think you can, too. You've already shown that you are so very brave and so very strong, even if you don't feel strong right now.

What happened to you doesn't define you. It's part of who you are, but it's just a part. You are so much more than your pain. Sooner or later you'll find people who can see the whole you and not just your scars, and they're going to love you more than any words could ever express. I've seen it happen to other people in your situation, and it can happen for you, too.

Have you tried dialectical behaviour therapy? It can be hard to find a group, but I think it would really help you make healthier choices. If you haven't already, you should also look into a therapist who has specific training with trauma-informed therapy. I've heard it can really help.

There's not gonna be any magic bullet, but things can get better eventually. For now, I just want you to know you deserve to get better. I know it's hard to take the word of a stranger on the internet, but try to believe it. I know you deserve to live. More than that, you deserve to thrive.
Thank you so much, i'm in tears writing a reply to this. It's good to know that there are very understanding people out there. Lot's of people have mentioned lot's of different therapies. I'm going to look into them and speak to the mental health nurse about it when I go to see her next week.
 
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