Discussion it's sad that in this day and age we still don't have any choice or control over the life we were given and had no say in.

[Akeolodo]

Not having the choice to go through legal assisted suicide by people who have never experienced difficulties in their lives and don't understand how it feels to be going through agony, stress, and hopelessness on a daily basis.

We live in a fucked up world where we have to degrade ourselves and leave this world with massive shame. the least the government can do is allow us to die with dignity and respect rather than have our remains splattered or be dangling from a rope.

I didn't ask to be brought into this world, therefore, as an adult, I should have the choice to leave this world with the utmost dignity.

 

[easywayout]

I get what you mean but on the other hand, try CTB as a pre-historic human, no ropes, guns, fancy chemicals, N2 tanks, internet to tell you how you can do it.

We might just be living in a golden age of suicide. Plenty of methods and surveillance hasn't become so absolute that it's impossible.

 

[enlightened_suicide]

I don't even think this could be worded any better !

They treat us as if this world is a prison experiment, and we are nothing more than the rats and slaves they need to make sure their plan is properly seen through.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Exactly. Are you an antinatalist? You're describing a lot of antinatalism sentiments.

I also would like to say this:
I really want my non existence back.

 

[Akeolodo]

I get what you mean but on the other hand, try CTB as a pre-historic human, no ropes, guns, fancy chemicals, N2 tanks, internet to tell you how you can do it.

We might just be living in a golden age of suicide. Plenty of methods and surveillance hasn't become so absolute that it's impossible.

Yes, but back then they most likely weren't suffering from depression because of the modern world we live, life was simple back then. also, there probably were suicide methods, there always has been, just unknown due to lack of documentation.

 

[S1mpleme]

Not having the choice to have assisted legal suicide by people who have never experienced difficulties in their lives and don't understand how it feels to be going through agony, stress, and hopelessness on a daily basis.

We live in a fucked up world where we have to degrade ourselves and leave this world with massive shame. the least the government can do is allow us to die with dignity and respect rather than have our remains splattered or be dangling from a rope.

I didn't ask to be brought into this world, therefore, as an adult, I should have the choice to leave this world with the utmost dignity.

Say thanks to government that allow us something at least, I can't imagine if I lived in a slavery times, that's even worse than now.

 

[BlueWidow]

I used to have a friend who claimed that everyone who is here actually chose to come here before they got here and that everything that happens to them, they chose for it to happen before they got here, it's just that no one remembers it.
What a load of crap! You notice I said I used to have a friend. . .

 

[Akeolodo]

Say thanks to government that allow us something at least, I can't imagine if I lived in a slavery times, that's even worse than now.

Yea, but I would rather fight to my death, worst case scenario I'm killed best case I'm dead. GOAL ACHIEVED.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

I used to have a friend who claimed that everyone who is here actually chose to come here before they got here and that everything that happens to them, they chose for it to happen before they got here, it's just that no one remembers it.
What a load of crap! You notice I said I used to have a friend. . .

They should ask themselves if they chose to be born lol

 

[Akeolodo]

I used to have a friend who claimed that everyone who is here actually chose to come here before they got here and that everything that happens to them, they chose for it to happen before they got here, it's just that no one remembers it.
What a load of crap! You notice I said I used to have a friend. . .

Their brains are too small to contemplate anything logical. also, it's usually to make themselves feel smarter and more successful than others.

 

[S1mpleme]

Yea, but I would rather fight to my death, worst case scenario I'm killed best case I'm free to commit on my own suicide.

Sometimes you can't fight or do whatever you want, but others may make pain to you like you never felt and there is nothing you can do about cause you're helpless. Just read some history and you will see how beautiful is our life.

 

[SlackJim]

I used to have a friend who claimed that everyone who is here actually chose to come here before they got here and that everything that happens to them, they chose for it to happen before they got here, it's just that no one remembers it.
What a load of crap! You notice I said I used to have a friend. . .

I know some people with that same belief, I find it interesting to ponder but I'm not sure I believe it. I read about it in a book supposedly channelled by extra terrestrials called the peleidians. The idea is that the life your in now, your soul chose before being born, because it knew that that life is what you need to grow and evolve, if you are in a life of suffering then there are lessons in that life that your soul needs to move forward. The idea of choice was a big part of that book too, you create your reality, every thing that you do and that happens to you is a choice (the book said this is a difficult concept, particularly if you think about babies who are born with severe illness and die after a few days, that is a choice too apparently)

Yes, but back then they most likely weren't suffering from depression because of the modern world we live, life was simple back then. also, there probably were suicide methods, there always has been, just unknown due to lack of documentation.

That made me wonder how old is the first case of suicide in human lineage, I know horses can commit suicide if they're in enough pain, I wonder how far back it exists in human ancestry (probably further back than humans, right?)

 

[Akeolodo]

Sometimes you can't fight or do whatever you want, but others may make pain to you like you never felt and there is nothing you can do about cause you're helpless. Just read some history and you will see how beautiful is our life.

Actually my family is from Somalia and it was never enslaved unlike other West African countries because they fought for their deaths and never sold their own people, read history it's all online.

I know some people with that same belief, I find it interesting to ponder but I'm not sure I believe it. I read about it in a book supposedly channelled by extra terrestrials called the peleidians. The idea is that the life your in now, your soul chose before being born, because it knew that that life is what you need to grow and evolve, if you are in a life of suffering then there are lessons in that life that your soul needs to move forward. The idea of choice was a big part of that book too, you create your reality, every thing that you do and that happens to you is a choice (the book said this is a difficult concept, particularly if you think about babies who are born with severe illness and die after a few days, that is a choice too apparently)

That made me wonder how old is the first case of suicide in human lineage, I know horses can commit suicide if they're in enough pain, I wonder how far back it exists in human ancestry (probably further back than humans, right?)

Most likely, if they weren't killed by nature, animals or diseases.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

Not having the choice to have assisted legal suicide by people who have never experienced difficulties in their lives and don't understand how it feels to be going through agony, stress, and hopelessness on a daily basis.

We live in a fucked up world where we have to degrade ourselves and leave this world with massive shame. the least the government can do is allow us to die with dignity and respect rather than have our remains splattered or be dangling from a rope.

I didn't ask to be brought into this world, therefore, as an adult, I should have the choice to leave this world with the utmost dignity.

Most if not all of the people making laws in the U.S. don't have to worry about the shittyness of life. They have more money than they can spend in a lifetime.
I also believe that as an adult we should be able to end it if we choose. There is also the pro-life assholes.

 

[BlueWidow]

you create your reality, every thing that you do and that happens to you is a choice (the book said this is a difficult concept, particularly if you think about babies who are born with severe illness and die after a few days, that is a choice too apparently)

Why couldn't I have chosen that, to die after a few days?! Actually, I was born prematurely and the doctors were positive I was going to die. They told my family to go home and forget about me because I was most definitely going to die, and most of my family listened. However, my mom and one of my sisters stayed behind with me. I'm convinced that my mother's presence is the only reason that I survived. Then she went on to allow herself to die of cancer by the time I was three and leave me alone with an alcoholic abusive father. So what was the point?! Why keep me alive if you're just going to die and leave me alone with someone who continually referred to me as " the burden your mother left me with".

 

[SlackJim]

Why couldn't I have chosen that, to die after a few days?! Actually, I was born prematurely and the doctors were positive I was going to die. They told my family to go home and forget about me because I was most definitely going to die, and most of my family listened. However, my mom and one of my sisters stayed behind with me. I'm convinced that my mother's presence is the only reason that I survived. Then she went on to allow herself to die of cancer by the time I was three and leave me alone with an alcoholic abusive father. So what was the point?! Why keep me alive if you're just going to die and leave me alone with someone who continually referred to me as " the burden your mother left me with".

jeez that sounds difficult, I would have died early too without modern medicine, I had lifesaving heart surgery when I was a few months old. It's not fair for your father to call you a burden, since he put you here, sorry you are suffering x

 

[JustSomeoneOnline]

It is really sad that we don't have control over our lives, but this is how it will be probably for the end of time. No one gets to choose when they were born, who their parents are, their background, and how their life will be; it just happens. Same thing with death. But in terms of suicide, why deliberately keep someone alive when they are in unbearable pain?
I don't think assisted suicide will be offered to us anytime soon, but I heard they do offer it to some people who are clinically diagnosed with a condition where they will feel constant misery for the rest of their lives. The reason they don't give it to us is because of the idea that there is a chance we can get better. I honestly think people who have not gone through this pain have no right to say that or make that decision for us, but theres not much I can do about it.
Right now thats just how the world works. I'm sorry to anyone who has to live like this, I know it can be painful. Best wishes to you all.

 

[FuneralCry]

The way that I see it, suicide is the way to take control over this life that we never asked for, so much in life is determined by factors that we have no say in but we can control when we die. But it really disgusts me how this society that we exist in makes suicide as difficult as possible for us and cruelly restricts us access to reliable methods. I just believe that the option of a painless exit is what we deserve after being so unfairly forced into existence in the first place. Many people just don't want to continue and it's perfectly valid feeling in such a way, in fact when all that lies ahead for us as humans is suffering and deterioration suicide seems like the only appealing option.