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NotWhatIExpected

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I was thinking along the lines of an overkill type of situation

I'll probably just have another glass mixed in case I throw up and don't lose consciousness within 20 minutes (or strongly feel that I will)
 
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@NotWhatIExpected, I've read that overdoing the dosage increases the risk of vomiting. I plan to have two or three doses ready just in case. Maybe with varying strength?
 
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I was thinking along the lines of an overkill type of situation

I'll probably just have another glass mixed in case I throw up and don't lose consciousness within 20 minutes (or strongly feel that I will)
From reading the december pph, 25g is already being a generous for someone weighing less than 100kg so unless you're heavier there's really no need
 
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I was thinking along the lines of an overkill type of situation

I'll probably just have another glass mixed in case I throw up and don't lose consciousness within 20 minutes (or strongly feel that I will)
Best to stick with 20 to 25g, depending on your size, per Stan's guide. That's already a huge dose.
Very light people can probably just use 15g.

Taking too much would probably just mean vomiting. Counterproductive....
 
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Doesn't pph recommend 10g? Why does this site say 20-25?
 
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JSauter

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Doesn't pph recommend 10g? Why does this site say 20-25?

The last issue of PPH advises 35g if your bodyweight is 100kg and above. It just keeps changing. Who knows.
 
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Personally I would go with Stan's guide...
1 major difference I boticed between them was with propranolol, which stan and severel other on here said onky helps with heart rate, but the dl link you poated earlier says 2g actually potentiates the process. In short, is the propranolol actually that useful or not? Asking as it's a bit more of a pain to get than the rest of the kit
 
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1 major difference I boticed between them was with propranolol, which stan and severel other on here said onky helps with heart rate, but the dl link you poated earlier says 2g actually potentiates the process. In short, is the propranolol actually that useful or not? Asking as it's a bit more of a pain to get than the rest of the kit
Cool new word ! botice (verb) : to notice something while on a boat [JK] :sunglasses:

This thread offers some views on propranolol :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-worry.30084/
 
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Cool new word ! botice (verb) : to notice something while on a boat [JK] :sunglasses:

This thread offers some views on propranolol :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-worry.30084/
Hehe didn't even notice, on mobile with no spell check :( yea read that threas earlier, a couple saying it just seems to be absurdly high, i read another report of an overdose case (not on here some medical site) where a woman died on just 2.8g alone but she experienced a drop in heartrate to 45bpm and was unconscious very quickly from it. Hmm if I can I will just have a feeling it ain't gonna be cheap, ill look around darkweb tomorrow
 
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Hehe didn't even notice, on mobile with no spell check :( yea read that threas earlier, a couple saying it just seems to be absurdly high, i read another report of an overdose case (not on here some medical site) where a woman died on just 2.8g alone but she experienced a drop in heartrate to 45bpm and was unconscious very quickly from it. Hmm if I can I will just have a feeling it ain't gonna be cheap, ill look around darkweb tomorrow
Once you get PM access (probably tomorrow or in a few hours), pls drop me a PM.
 
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Once you get PM access (probably tomorrow or in a few hours), pls drop me a PM.
Hey, I thought you didn't give out any sources? Interesting! That's what you told me, weeks ago, at least...

I'm seeing a pattern with you, you know?
You match very well the typical profile of a darknet scammer that comes here wanting to prey on vulnerable people: painfully lengthy, numerous posts in a short amount of time (largely indicative of a non depressed neurotypical) in order to make himself as popular as possible and deceive people into thinking they're legit; filler "I support you type posts" to try and earn trust; waiting until they're popular to start telling people to PM them for darknet sources...

I maaay be wrong about you, and if so I'm sorry.
But it's just a feeling.
Be careful people.
 
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Hey, I thought you didn't give out any sources? Interesting! That's what you told me, weeks ago, at least...

I'm seeing a pattern with you, you know?
You match very well the typical profile of a darknet scammer: painfully lengthy, numerous posts in a short amount of time (largely indicative of a non depressed neurotypical) in order to make himself as popular as possible and deceive people into thinking they're legit; filler "I support you type posts", and waiting until they're popular to start telling people to PM them for darknet sources.
Hum... I may be wrong about you, and if so I'm sorry. But it's just s feeling ;)
Be careful people.
We don't directly state sources on public threads like these.
Exchanging information in PMs is a different matter entirely.
You're entitled to your opinion of course.
Yes, people should be careful.
 
Lady Lazarus 2020

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Cool new word ! botice (verb) : to notice something while on a boat [JK] :sunglasses:

This thread offers some views on propranolol :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-worry.30084/
Good one re: "botice". Thanks for my first chuckle of the night!
 
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Lady Lazarus 2020

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Hey, I thought you didn't give out any sources? Interesting! That's what you told me, weeks ago, at least...

I'm seeing a pattern with you, you know?
You match very well the typical profile of a darknet scammer that comes here wanting to prey on vulnerable people: painfully lengthy, numerous posts in a short amount of time (largely indicative of a non depressed neurotypical) in order to make himself as popular as possible and deceive people into thinking they're legit; filler "I support you type posts" to try and earn trust; waiting until they're popular to start telling people to PM them for darknet sources...

I maaay be wrong about you, and if so I'm sorry.
But it's just a feeling.
Be careful people.
How do you know this kind of info? Is there a 101/tips & tricks/beginners guide thread someplace? I'm new here and any guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks! :hug:
 
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How do you know this kind of info? Is there a 101/tips & tricks/beginners guide thread someplace? I'm new here and any guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks! :hug:
For the forum as a whole you mean ? Well you could start with the "RULES & FAQ" which you'll botice at the top of the screen....
Hey, I thought you didn't give out any sources? Interesting! That's what you told me, weeks ago, at least...

I'm seeing a pattern with you, you know?
You match very well the typical profile of a darknet scammer that comes here wanting to prey on vulnerable people: painfully lengthy, numerous posts in a short amount of time (largely indicative of a non depressed neurotypical) in order to make himself as popular as possible and deceive people into thinking they're legit; filler "I support you type posts" to try and earn trust; waiting until they're popular to start telling people to PM them for darknet sources...

I maaay be wrong about you, and if so I'm sorry.
But it's just a feeling.
Be careful people.
PS I'll happily PM the same info to you if you wish, so you can see if you think the info is legit, and you can compare notes with @Amorphous Blob and between you check if you think the info is a scam.... I have nothing to hide....
 
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For the forum as a whole you mean ? Well you could start with the "RULES & FAQ" which you'll botice at the top of the screen....

PS I'll happily PM the same info to you if you wish, so you can see if you think the info is legit, and you can compare notes with @Amorphous Blob and between you check if you think the info is a scam.... I have nothing to hide....
Please do! Never hurts to so as much research ss possible. Thanks!
 
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f.y.i. that msg was directed to @spanishguy22 but I'll happily send to you if you wish....
Gotcha. BTW, I did check out the Rules & FAQ's when I first got on here last week.
 
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@NotWhatIExpected, I've read that overdoing the dosage increases the risk of vomiting. I plan to have two or three doses ready just in case. Maybe with varying strength?
Soul is correct. Higher doses seem to be more harmful than good and increase the risk of vomiting. If you weigh more, the current recommendation is 35, but pretty much everyone seems ok with the standard 20-25.

Just based on my own experiences with vomiting, I don't believe in the spare doses plan being helpful, but it doesn't hurt to try. I just think it'll be hard or impossible to choke down and keep down extra SN if you're already vomiting.
 
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Soul is correct. Higher doses seem to be more harmful than good and increase the risk of vomiting. If you weigh more, the current recommendation is 35, but pretty much everyone seems ok with the standard 20-25.

Just based on my own experiences with vomiting, I don't believe in the spare doses plan being helpful, but it doesn't hurt to try. I just think it'll be hard or impossible to choke down and keep down extra SN if you're already vomiting.
Some people do sometimes question some of the dosage information that appears in certain parts of the PPH, although it is an excellent resource worthy of huge praise.
To find out whether 35g is a "sound" recommendation for someone over 100kg, we would need more info on how they arrived at that figure.
 
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Heart of Ice

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I've recently wondered about this as well. Wikipedia says the median lethal dose is 71 mg/kg, but some sources say it's as big as 225 mg/kg. Pubchem says the lethal dose is between 0,7 and 6 grams. 20 or 25 grams is probably overkill already.

Would a bigger dose make death quicker, I wonder?
 
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I've recently wondered about this as well. Wikipedia says the median lethal dose is 71 mg/kg, but some sources say it's as big as 225 mg/kg. Pubchem says the lethal dose is between 0,7 and 6 grams. 20 or 25 grams is probably overkill already.

Would a bigger dose make death quicker, I wonder?

As noted above, anything over the PPH recommendations is apparently more likely to cause more vomiting than to hurry things along. Personally I don't feel like experimenting with it.
 
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AlreadyGone

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50 g is just overkill. I do not see the added benefit of going that route.