It's not enough to say a suicide method isn't perfect, you have to take into account also the available alternatives

[Suicideisnirvana]

There is something that should be taken into consideration : No suicide method is perfect. Nembutal is the closest thing there is to a perfect method, yet it's still tastes like crap and not everybody has the money to get it.

If you wanna discard any method that isn't perfect, you'll have to discard every method, and this is just unacceptable for people who are set on dying, who have no qualms about it nor second thoughts and are just looking for a method. We can't compare methods to some ideal, inexistent, unavailable dream method and then discard them because they don't raise to those inexistent/absurd standards, NOT IF WE ARE SET on finding a method.

"Yet but with this method you suffer 2 seconds before dying, i don't recommand it"

"But it tastes awful"

I'm not trying to be disrepectful to anybody, i'm just stating a fact : No method is perfect and in a prohibition society, suicide will always comes with some adversity, all you can do is find the method that minimizes, there is no method with no adversity in a prohibition society. What the people set on dying are looking for is the suicide method that combines : The most lethality + The less suffering and uncomfort. Not an inexistent method with 100% lethality and 0% suffering and uncomfort, since it doesn't exist.

So taken those into considerations, i'd say Nembutal, then guns and then jumping FROM A REALLY HIGH GROUND (where lethality is 99% guaranteed no matter how you land, because you can't control landing on your heads).are the best methods.

Let's take jumping as an example for instance, it won't do to just say "But there is 1% chance of surviving", "but you may suffer for 15 seconds before dying", you'd have to show also some better alternatives. What then ? hanging ? With its HUGE 20+% survival rate and risks of complication ? Electrocution ? What exactly except Nembutal and Guns would you put above jumping ?

 

[bigj75]

Hanging might be one of the only methods i feel are pretty good. Nembutal is good too. Hanging hurts a little but only for a few seconds. Then you dont feel anything,

 

[Suicideisnirvana]

Hanging might be one of the only methods i feel are pretty good. Nembutal is good too. Hanging hurts a little but only for a few seconds. Then you dont feel anything,

Unfortunately hanging has a 20%+ survival rate, while no suicide method is perfect, i feel this is way too high.

 

[AtomicNewt]

Hanging might be one of the only methods i feel are pretty good. Nembutal is good too. Hanging hurts a little but only for a few seconds. Then you dont feel anything,

Oh gosh, I'd like to believe that, probably is for most, yet I mess everything up. Genuinely. Everything. Know that in keeping with all else I do in life I'd totally fuck it up. Even if I deserve that it still scares me, stuck there at the time. Want someone to show me how and do it on my behalf. Sure everyone else will comprehend how to properly and make it work though!

 

[TimeToDie]

Unfortunately hanging has a 20%+ survival rate, while no suicide method is perfect, i feel this is way too high.

There is more to consider than just survival rate. Even if 80% die from hanging, that doesn't necessarily qualify as "success" unless you think getting dead is the ONLY measure that matters. Most people probably think the amount of pain matters too, and if it can take 14-28 minutes to be "professionally" executed at Nuremberg then how long does it take for an amateur to do it with a belt in their closet?

And I have to wonder if the success rate for hanging really is 80%. To get meaningful numbers we'd have to know how many people tried & failed, but all those who try, fail, and don't go to the ER are probably never counted. So possibly the failure rate is far higher than 20%?

 

[kuddelmuddel23]

Yes, I agree with you 100%.

I think the biggest problem is that there can be no positive testimonials because, well, they were successful. Nobody will write in the forum: "When I jumped off that 70m high bridge, it was totally painless and I fainted after 2 seconds".

I think it's good and important that users share their experiences and try to help the community, but it distorts the reality a bit. So you focus almost exclusively on the bad aspects of the methods.

There is a very funny article in a German newspaper which shows that about 300 people die every year from ballpoint pens in Germany. Or at least from ballpoint pen particles. Will I stop using a pen because there is a very small chance of dying from it? No.

 

[About_to_Go]

There is a very funny article in a German newspaper which shows that about 300 people die every year from ballpoint pens in Germany. Or at least from ballpoint pen particles. Will I stop using a pen because there is a very small chance of dying from it? No.

Yeah, but what if you weren't suicidal? Seems like a big risk to me ;)

 

[SinisterKid]

There is no best, its all subjective. Research, research, then research some more until you are as sure as you can be that you have enough information to increase your chances of success.

I think its perfectly natural that people want to die with the least amount of pain and suffering possible. They are getting that in life, why suffer it in death as well? A earlier thread/post indicated that 1 person took 9grams of N and survived. Others took between 2 hrs and 4 days to die from a so called lethal dose. So no, nothing is perfect.

 

[Empty Smile]

Any method you choose, you have a 50/50 chance. Basically, it either you succeed or you don't.

 

[bigj75]

Unfortunately hanging has a 20%+ survival rate, while no suicide method is perfect, i feel this is way too high.

shit i stand corrected. but most survival rate is because of people being found hanging before they die. Never save a hanging person.

 

[Suicideisnirvana]

There is more to consider than just survival rate. Even if 80% die from hanging, that doesn't necessarily qualify as "success" unless you think getting dead is the ONLY measure that matters. Most people probably think the amount of pain matters too, and if it can take 14-28 minutes to be "professionally" executed at Nuremberg then how long does it take for an amateur to do it with a belt in their closet?

And I have to wonder if the success rate for hanging really is 80%. To get meaningful numbers we'd have to know how many people tried & failed, but all those who try, fail, and don't go to the ER are probably never counted. So possibly the failure rate is far higher than 20%?

I agree with you that the amount of pain matters a lot. Another thing that matters is the risk. For instance if the 20% of failures are accompagnied with 0 damage, there is no problem, you can just try again. But with hanging the 20% of failures includes also the chances of ending as a vegetable !

I frankly can't see any other methods other than the trio Guns/Nembutal/Jumping (from a really HIGH PLACE), all have a 99% chance of success, and minimal pain (compared to the other methods, i'm not saying they are painless except maybe N )

Any method you choose, you have a 50/50 chance. Basically, it either you succeed or you don't.

I disagree, some methods have way more chance of succeeding than others :

Guns/Nembutal and jumping from 200M+ all have a 97-99%+ chance of success i'd say if executed right, and "executer right" doesn't involves anything complicated like with hanging, you just have to aim at the right place, jump from something high enough where you'll land on the GROUND, and drink it with antiemetics for N.

With the other methods the % of success start falling waaaay beyond the "almost certain" 97-99%+

Oh gosh, I'd like to believe that, probably is for most, yet I mess everything up. Genuinely. Everything. Know that in keeping with all else I do in life I'd totally fuck it up. Even if I deserve that it still scares me, stuck there at the time. Want someone to show me how and do it on my behalf. Sure everyone else will comprehend how to properly and make it work though!

Don't be harsh on yourself, i find hanging hard to. I've been always very bad at manual stuff/tying knots/rolling a joint (i use a hand-made "machine" with a pen and paper to roll joints, cause i can't do it manually lol), so everything involving knots, subtle things you have to do with your hands, discriminating between parts i find really hard. And remember, hanging even WHEN DONE RIGHT have a 20% chance survival rate, so it's clearly not something as easy as some people pretend.

 

[ImSorryEmma]

another thing that should be taken into consideration is the availability on the method of choice (i.e. using guns when you live in a country with strict gun laws, ordering N from A and it gets seized by customs, nets to prevent jumpers like the golden gate bridge, etc.) you just have to find a method that works for you and are sure that you are able to do said method

 

[Darkmornings]

I never imagined killing yourself would be so difficult. When I started looking into ctb I thought it would be as easy as going to Target and picking up a bottle of something/anything. I feel like I'm being forced to suffer this horrible existence.

 

[DreamCatcher]

I don't know if you've looked into the night night method, but it's both simple on equipment and painless. (Check the resources post)

Before I discovered that one I thought it had to involve some kind or drugs or pain to die. But with that I can go anytime I want without buying meds or ANY suffering at all.

Just a trip to the hardware store and maybe the grocery store for corn kernels or something to fill some small bags.

Cheap, easy, safe, and no risk to others. Can't beat that! Maybe not perfect, but I think that's as close as I've seen.

 

[Crematedashes]

More people need to realize this. You have to choose the method that's best for you, and only you can decide what method is best for you. If you're finding an excuse for why each method won't work, maybe you aren't ready, and that's ok.

You also have to keep in mind what resources you have. For some people, their only option is hanging. Others have the option to choose any method they want. Most of us are somewhere in the middle.