I'm going to be brutally honest here- and I really don't want to hurt or offend you. I believe we all have the right to feel upset about what we feel upset about. I may be wrong but I get the impression your depression is very much centred around attractiveness. I'm not sure if you are talking about this place with regards to ghosting in this post? Still- I would say- kind of warn in a way that not everyone will be able to relate to your particular circumstances. If some people are confronted with the question: 'Don't you want to kill yourself because you don't look like this person, or this person?' They may just not be able to relate to that at all. They may feel that looks aren't that (all) important- that perhaps their problems are far worse. I think some people just really don't like vanity too. It's an odd situation- because society tends to push the need for beauty but at the same time, vanity isn't always seen as positive. I am truly sorry that you feel like you are receiving hate- either here or, the real world.
It's weird because almost everyone complains or laments about their appearance at some point..even those who objectively have no real reason to are very capable of non-stop reassurance seeking and losing their minds if even one person gives them the impression that they might not look all that great.
(They don't even care if they obfuscate the pleas of those physically worse off, they're going to do it anyway…because even the very idea of it is haunting.)
You would think it would only be a matter of degree..in how much they're able to relate..how often they have had to think about this issue with distress..how much (and in what manner) they're willing to admit considering the topic is so ironically taboo, despite its ubiquitous and pervasive nature being all too obvious to anyone who inhabits the earth, or a body.
I raise an eyebrow to those who claim full distance from the topic is natural to them.
I find it incredibly disingenuous, and harmful to profess or force onto those who suffer on the worse side of the looks spectrum.
A suffering of which should never be blamed from coming from within, as it almost always begins and festers by the hand of outside sources and other people first.
(Not to mention, I don't think people realize that even the simple act of putting on an outfit and feeling good about what you see in the mirror, or fine that that's "you" when you walk out the door.. is something that's actually taken for granted compared to those who have to be at constant odds with their face, and/or body, the very thing they live in 24/7.
Even the little things can be painfully foreign to those who suffer without them.
And the reminders are EVERYWHERE.)
As far as those who try to downplay this issue or state their ascension beyond it..
I've known too many people IRL who say one thing, then act or or say the complete opposite..or undermine their position somehow. Every time.
Even on this site..I once had someone do a multi quote..where they drowned me in empty platitudes and meaningless drivel about what I live with (after I poured my heart out), when they have never lived it themselves…only to blatantly and shamelessly fall all over and compliment another poster with an attractive profile picture..in the very same comment they were quoting me.
At first I thought they must be fucking with me..but no, they thought what they were doing was perfectly normal and not a slap in the face.
It would have been pretty good satire, if it wasn't my reality.
So many people have killed themselves over the flesh prison they've been stuck in..for one reason or another.
People don't do that at the rate it's done unless there is a very serious problem with the emphasis put on appearances, both overt and covert. Inherently and with social constructs.
But I also don't think such reasons are publicized as much as others-not plainly, not apart from the beautiful or famous- because again, the taboo, the "hush hush" and the shame of the person who perhaps kept their mouth shut before offing themselves.
And are most people going to risk calling a dead person ugly, or anything less than beautiful? Are they even going to bring that possibility up?
Or even that person, if it's not so easy to deny?
Likely not..unless to erase the trait with condescension when it's real.
If I ever
do see these issues spoken about on any common forum or out in the world..they are only done so using a very specific rhetoric or language, one which the speaker often trips over constantly.
I know part of the reason it's trivialized and stuffed down, is because it's just that awful.
Even the word "ugly" or "unattractive" is something most don't want to willingly or openly identify as, even if they fit the bill.
(Much more objective than subjective, contrary to what some people like to spout.)
There is no community for those who suffer permanently. (And no swan moment.)
It's just that bad..and talking about it with any seriousness makes people VERY uncomfortable, I don't think it's about being able to relate much (unless in the case of a more privileged person or someone who might just happen to have their mind occupied by something else at the time).
I see people respond to unrelated posts with empathy and sympathy all the time, despite having no experiential clue about what the OP may be going through.
Even people who are merely "bored" with life get more sympathy and validation than someone dealing with an issue related to their unfortunate appearance.
It's diabolical if you ask me. Completely hypocritical and unacceptable.
I've seen members of this site be outright cruel and mocking of the issue, and without any repercussions..though they cause the person opening up to become so much more distraught and prone to silencing themselves for good.
It probably doesn't help that it can be thought of as an "incel probelm", which is a very simple and easy term to attach to anything that someone wants to gag and censor.
A scary buzzword that nobody wants to be associated with offering condolences toward, even though its main origin and certain definitions can be harmful to nobody but the one labeled.
It also does not help that the best known term for the overall prejudice is "Lookism", which just sounds silly to the ears.
I try to hold my tongue most of the time so as not to offend or make light of some other issues dealt with on here..I usually try very hard to put myself in another person's shoes even when I lack the mind or energy..but as much as a person may claim to "have it worse" than this problem..well, I can say I would gladly and willingly trade circumstances with many of the people who make such claims or allude to them.
And that's the truth.
If that bothers them to accept, then I guess they can't be reasoned with.
Most people dealing with serious appearance related issues already deal with other detriments on top of it anyhow, it comes with the territory.
So we are all pretty familiar with what we can handle and what we cannot, likely more than most.
At least, that's how it is for me.
It's sad that you have to warn OP of the impending reactions, but I don't exactly think you're wrong in doing so.
I've already become familiar with the phenomenon..although it's pretty jarring to see occur, even on a pro-choice suicide website.
I know of many members and others who choose to say nothing or who leave this place without ever having had the opportunity to open up..because once again, they do not feel welcome, or they get people jumping down their throats.
I've even seen many internalize the rejection of their problems to the point that they lose all coherence as they're trying too hard to let people know that they're "bad and vain" for worrying about this, as a preface to said worry. Sad.
Then on the other hand..I have had people suffering this tell me that they find MOST other issues complained about here to be trite & livable compared to what they deal with, but feel they cannot say it in the same way that others relentlessly say it to them.
So at the very least, it's mutual.
One side just gets more leniency than the other..par for the course.
To be the butt of the joke in so many ways, only for your suffering from that to also be taken as a joke…Jesus Christ.
That's pretty fucked.
I've said similar things before..made similar analogies..but another thing I've noticed and will never understand (or rather, appreciate) are those who come out of the woodwork to deride someone for a disadvantage, especially one on this scale.
I don't go into threads about homelessness and tell them:
"Hey buddy, you might think homelessness is your biggest problem, but I have a roof over my head and I still want to kill myself, in fact I hardly ever think about the fact that I have a home..soooo"-
Yet that's the nutty treatment and response unattractive people get when they complain.
Totally unsolicited too.
Wrong.
If you're starving, all you're going to think about is food.
If you're full and have food readily available, then starvation or the sensation of hunger is rarely, if ever, your concern.
And what I ultimately mean by this is..one can be starved of so much more than food.
(Btw sorry for using your comment to bump off of and go on tangents, I'm always doing that.)