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ChildrensITV

ChildrensITV

Arcanist
Mar 14, 2023
460
Countries will bomb another country's people to smithereens. Politicians can keep a man in a country (think: a communist or corrupt one), or deport him from one, knowing that he is assured death. Judges can sentence someone to a room and stipulate that they have no contact with certain people or any people, making you, effectively dead to the world. A whole government can allow weapons that kill innocent people daily. Hell, some countries will throw you off a roof if you date the wrong person.

But if a person chooses death for themselves, suddenly come the barriers. "Death or a similar situation is not hasty when we decide it for you". Even countries like Swi, NL and Bel have varying barriers. Bel has the fewest but you have to convince 3 doctors that you are "worthy" of making this decision over your own life. And then the expense is prohibitive. I was watching a documentary and the doctor gave a woman a bottle of juice, She drank it, lay down, then was dead within like 3 minutes. No fighting. No struggling to breath. No trauma. I am sure that drink doesn't cost even EUR 1000 (plus the rest of the EUR 7000 they charge).

It is the one thing humanity is lockstep on: 'If you are "bad", "other", "opposition", and want to live, there is an argument for your death. If you want death, we must preserve your life at any cost'. If an authority doesn't want a life, it is gone. Like a mother who aborts a baby - I am not antiabortion btw, infact, quite the opposite. I wish I had been aborted myself. A mother can abort a baby for no reason - cuz it's Tuesday, if she wants. But if she doesn't abort it, it lives, it grows to 20 or 30. Now it can't choose that same thing for itself. At least, very few entities will help.

An animal is sick or injured and will have a shitty quality of life - we do the humane thing. A human's life is inhumane, we tell him to be more positive, to talk about it to some professional stranger who read some psychology books, and to shut the fuck up cuz "someone somewhere has it worse than him" supposedly: As long as some poor child is suffering elsewhere, you have no right to complain and you definitely have no right to end your suffering. Be grateful and shut the fuck up!

here is not one country that makes this easy. 3 make it less hard than others. It's already a hard decision. Most people's roadblocks to suicide include:

- they don't want to hurt loved ones
- fear of what happens after death if they are of certain (but not all) religions

These are enough roadblocks to stop so many. Why add the following:

- no painfree methods
- cost-hindrance
- lack of authority over your life

Those who are in charge of roadblocking it think they are doing us a favour, as if we're too stupid to know what is best for us. I have been tormented for decades. I think I know when it's best for me to go.
 
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ironstar

ironstar

Member
Feb 14, 2023
14
My objection is very simple - I can have my dog (who is a valued member of my family) put to sleep without their consent but I don't have the same courtesy despite being able to actually voice my consent..
In my opinion, if I can decide for someone else (even if its my beloved dog fido) I should be fully able to decide for myself and receive the same exact help
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,420
It disgusts me how suicide is so stigmatised and how there is a lack of acceptance towards our right to die. Trying to restrict suicide method options will just certainly lead to more torment all for the sake of it, we are all just destined to die anyway so there is no benefit to trying to force people to suffer.

But the unfortunate reality lies in the fact that the society needs slaves, and also many people don't wish to accept the fact that death is the preferable option as it shatters their delusional worldview. This is why suicide is labelled as being irrational, and it's the justification for unfairly denying people suicide method options. I will always hate the fact how this world is so pro life and how we cannot just peacefully escape this hell, if suicide was easier I would be long gone at this point.
 
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coolintheshade

Member
Mar 13, 2023
56
Those who put the obstacles in place, are also in part the ones making life difficult for people. Case in point....allowing corporations to hoard basic necessities e.g. education / healthcare / housing, all for the sake of greed and profit. Politicians lobby on behalf of these corporations because they are bribed and have their campaigns bankrolled.

As someone else mentioned, why is it that you pet can be put down, but you can have the same choice as the pet owner.
 
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lost-unfound

Member
Mar 10, 2023
24
it's global propaganda. as soon as you're suicidal you're deemed irrational, untrustworthy, and incapable of making your own decisions. the world just hates us and I don't know if this will ever change.
 
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