The more I think about things and the more I learn about science the more I start to think that the universe is arbitrary. Constants just have values that seem arbitrary, like the gravitational constant and the speed of light. Are we overthinking life? The universe just seems to be. This leads me to think then that death is not "infinite". The last point isn't very relevant, but the main question remains.
Smilla
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- Apr 30, 2018
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The universe is just an amalgam of atoms and protons.
There is NO meaning.
There is NO meaning.
I don't think the values are necessarily arbitrary. There seems to be some set of laws governing why everything works like it does. We just haven't figured it all out yet.
But this is why things physically work like they do. This has no bearing on something like the meaning of life. The physical universe can work by a very specific set of laws all it wants. But that doesn't offer anything to those looking for meaning. Life has no purpose and it just is. It's up to the individual to find meaning. If they can't do that.. well.. here we are.
But this is why things physically work like they do. This has no bearing on something like the meaning of life. The physical universe can work by a very specific set of laws all it wants. But that doesn't offer anything to those looking for meaning. Life has no purpose and it just is. It's up to the individual to find meaning. If they can't do that.. well.. here we are.
Smilla
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I would say its more of how everything works rather than why. But things do seem oddly arbitrary. Like having two eyes and general symmetry, red being red, blue being blue, etc.
Smilla
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If people suffer then I don't care about the "why".
What I was trying to say is that "why" is a human question, and does not exist beyond the phaneron. You can keep delving deeper into a topic by asking how, but ultimately you will only gain knowledge on how to manipulate things in the universe. However, I'm not going to rule out the possibility that we might discover things in the future that shed light on existence itself.
I think the only person that can really give any meaning to your life is yourself. Maybe it was different when religion was such an incredibly massive part of the human experience. But without that, we are adrift.
Smilla
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I completely agree.
But if you can't "find it", if you are an outlier or without a partner or for other reasons you are alone.
Meaning is much more dificult to find while adrift.
Yes and no. I believe in paradoxes. So I think both are truth. Yes there is meaning to the universe and no there isn't. It all depends on how you look at it.
RageQuit66
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- Jul 28, 2018
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All I'm gonna say is that I think there's more to existence than meets the eye. I sometimes think, not believe, that consciousness has to exist for the universe to do something. What that something is I don't know, maybe it is for us to suffer. I am however staunchly atheist and consider myself a pessimist nihilist. All I truly know is that I know nothing. All I can do is think about why or what or how anything is the way it is. I look at this existence with open eyes and all I see is void. I believe humans created religion to cope with this reality. That's why there are so many religions cause so many people want to fill that void with what they want to perceive. I also think that most of the heads of those religions have caught on and believe it's all bullshit. So in effect all they are left with is to manipulate and control the populace and feel that power that they can't have when they confront the void. All in all I 'believe' every religion is a farce and nothing more than words. The universe however is not dictated by our words it is totally different than anything we could possibly imagine. You ever see the ending of 2001 a space odyssey movie when he experiences the weirdness of what nature is? When I first saw that it blew me away to think that what he must have witnessed and only got a glimpse of what was and is. And even at that that scene what nothing more than human creative thinking and I believe that this universe is far weirder, far more crazier, far more existence than we can even to begin to imagine. All of our science is but a tiny tiny blip of knowledge compared to whatever the fuck this universe is. It could be a simulation upon simulations. Or a dream by another being in another reality. Or a multiverse fractal where every possibility is played out. Or maybe none of this actually exist and we are the voids way of coping with itself especially since it can't feel or suffer. So many goddamn possibilities and I'm just scratching the surface. Nature is far grander than human imagination and it sucks not knowing or being part of the action and how humans are so disconnected from whatever the universe is experiencing in its totality. Again all I know I that I know nothing. Absolutely fuckng nothing.
