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heylightiforgot

Experienced
Apr 30, 2019
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Today I woke up and felt 'okay' or indifferent/at peace with the idea of ingesting SN. I'd only had 4 hours sleep and was lying in bed feeling really calm and relaxed. I hadn't eaten for 7/8 hours and knew I had about 1-2 hours where I wouldn't be checked on by my mom. I almost never feel that sense of calmness -- usually I'm overwhelmed by terror at the notion of dying -- but presumably it's because I'd taken a small benzo dose before bed to try sleep.

That 'not caring' feeling is the same one I had when I tried to OD two weeks ago. But then as soon as I get up and drink coffee etc. and become alert/aware, the terror etc. starts to hit me again and I just feel scared and revulsion at the idea of poisoning myself, or dying at all.

So I guess it seems like there's certain conditions/mental states where I can potentially go ahead with an attempt. But I'm kind of in a hostage situation at home. And ironically it takes all this control on my part to try and seem functional and keep myself out of potentially ending up in hospital (where I would die horribly), or my family turning against me. But that's getting more and more difficult to maintain by the day, especially because I can almost no longer sleep. So when I am functional/in control, I don't want to CTB, but that's when it's ideal .. because if I become too helpless, I won't be able to.

I wish I could just disinhibit myself somehow or finally lose control. I can't even tolerate any alcohol. All the planning around SN makes me nervous too because with the fasting etc. I imagine there's this dread that will set in, knowing I've committed. And then the chaos and uncertainty of what the effect will actually be like.

I like the idea of partial because I guess it can be pulled off quickly and impulsively and it seems simple/elegant? But again I'm such an anxious and phobic person, I was getting scared even trying to locate my carotid artery. So I don't know. I guess nothing is ideal, and I really wish I had planned ahead and organized something like heroin when I was more functional and had a little money.

I feel like I'm an annoying presence on here because I'm just circling round, asking the same questions, trying to avoid CTB but that won't be possible forever.

Anyway, is there anyone here who backed out or had doubts about SN and decided on something like partial instead? Is there a way for someone with a lot of anxiety etc. to kind of familiarize themselves with it? I guess maybe subconsciously things like partial appeal to me because I know I can potentially back out, but then that also is probably counterproductive for someone who has to CTB but is so hesitant .. like SN you just drink it and game over. I really just wanna peacefully OD but seems like no matter what I'm stuck with crappy methods.
 
BPD_LE

BPD_LE

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Aug 11, 2019
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Partial is the worse method for someone with a strong SI. Like you said, it's easy to back out from.
You're not being annoying by the way.
 
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heylightiforgot

Experienced
Apr 30, 2019
256
Partial is the worse method for someone with a strong SI. Like you said, it's easy to back out from.
You're not being annoying by the way.

Thanks. I just feel like at least it's a quick exit that can be pulled off in a moment of despair. The same reason drowning appeals to me. But yeah, both are probably hard on SI, and harder for me because I can't use alcohol or anything. Deep down I guess I know it has to be SN, but I do feel this revulsion towards it.

I am also quite a mentally disorganized/non-technical person, but if I did want to try figure out partial, how would I begin?
 
BPD_LE

BPD_LE

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Aug 11, 2019
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I practiced with the ligature in my hand, to find the best place to compress the Carotid. I think it will scare you if you find it. The symptoms of hypoxia are pretty wild. I had electric shocks buzzing around my head last week. I'm going for full suspension because it's easier, quicker and you can't back out.
 
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heylightiforgot

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Apr 30, 2019
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I practiced with the ligature in my hand, to find the best place to compress the Carotid. I think it will scare you if you find it. The symptoms of hypoxia are pretty wild. I had electric shocks buzzing around my head last week. I'm going for full suspension because it's easier, quicker and you can't back out.

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I thought partial is painless if pulled off correctly? I think I did manage to find my Carotid because I can feel a pulse around my Adam's apple, but when I squeeze it, nothing really happens.
 
BPD_LE

BPD_LE

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Aug 11, 2019
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I thought partial is painless if pulled off correctly? I think I did manage to find my Carotid because I can feel a pulse around my Adam's apple, but when I squeeze it, nothing really happens.

The electric shocks didn't hurt, it was just a weird experience complete with whizzing sounds, I'd not had that before. It really depends on the position of the ligature and the speed that you put the weight on it. I think people make the mistake of easing into it, which is fine if you're experimenting, but even with partial, you need to drop the weight quickly for it to be effective.
 
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heylightiforgot

Experienced
Apr 30, 2019
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The electric shocks didn't hurt, it was just a weird experience complete with whizzing sounds, I'd not had that before. It really depends on the position of the ligature and the speed that you put the weight on it. I think people make the mistake of easing into it, which is fine if you're experimenting, but even with partial, you need to drop the weight quickly for it to be effective.

I know there's the mega thread here, but I get a bit overwhelmed by all the information. Were there any simple/clear guides you used to help figure it out?
 
BPD_LE

BPD_LE

The Queen of Meme
Aug 11, 2019
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I know there's the mega thread here, but I get a bit overwhelmed by all the information. Were there any simple/clear guides you used to help figure it out?
Nope, just experimentation with a ligature and basic anatomy knowledge.
 
Morphosis

Morphosis

Experienced
Sep 22, 2019
260
I've tried 3 different methods and found partial by far the worst with regards SI. My first attempt at ctb was Fentanyl OD with 10 x 100mcg patches but I have a massive tolerance and so underestimated how much it would take. Just ended up high as a kite. Second attempt was helium/ exit bag, kept going til both tanks were empty and didn't even pass out so must've been getting oxygen from somewhere - think the helium wasn't pure enough and mixed with air. Ended up with headache from hell and vomiting.

Then in desperation I tried partial hanging; it was dreadful. I've had major surgery leaving scar tissue on my neck over the carotid area so that may have affected the outcome but again, I couldn't even pass out. I just choked and spluttered til I eventually ripped off the ligature.

What I'm trying to say is with the first 2 methods I had no hesitation and SI didn't interfere, I fucked it up for different reasons (underestimating dose of F and possibly being sold shite helium). With partial, SI was an absolute bastard and I just couldn't continue - despite desperately wanting to jump on that bus.

I don't understand anyone who accuses suicidal people of taking the "easy" way out or being cowards. Particularly with hanging or jumping, it takes balls the size of planet Earth to overcome that SI.
 
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Kodama

Kodama

Experienced
Oct 11, 2019
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I've tried partial hanging with a belt, without attaching the belt... Pass out in 5 sec, no pain at all and I falled directly to the ground and dislocated my shoulder... IT Works very well !