Help Is shallow water blackout reliable? Anything I should be aware of?

[First loss]

Seems by far the easier method I have seen. I already managed to get the hang of hyperventilation.

My worry is that it sounds to good to be true?

If everything is as it is written, I might kill myself earlier then I expected, and I need to get my affairs in order. Hopefully I'll be successful.

 

[intens]

Yes, I have the same worry as you, and it's also my method of choice. But one of the appealing things for me is that, if you after hyperventilating, and holding your breath underwater and don't pass out, you can just come up for air and try again without the risk of a failed attempt ending in brain damage or something like that. The only way I could possible imaging it really failing is if you are rescued, before you actually die, but after you pass out. But this just makes it important to choose a spot, where no one is around.

But I'm wishing you the best of luck in finding peace

 

[Superfluous]

No. The user who posted the original thread finally decided that it wasn't reliable. I'll try and find the other threads relating to this method and post the links as it was also mentioned a few weeks ago.

Edit: Found the link:

Suicide – Kefka Ponders

Posts about Suicide written by Kefka P

kefkaponders.wordpress.com

 

[First loss]

No. The user who posted the original thread finally decided that it wasn't reliable. I'll try and find the other threads relating to this method and post the links as it was also mentioned a few weeks ago.

Edit: Found the link:

Suicide – Kefka Ponders

Posts about Suicide written by Kefka P

kefkaponders.wordpress.com

Fucking hell. Back to the drawing board. It seems i'll have to do partial or find a new one.

 

[maka]

Damn. I was thinking of going this route, too, considering how easy it seemed. Gotta find a new backup plan I guess.

 

[Superfluous]

Sorry guys. I was also tempted by this method.

 

[ready-or-not06]

No. The user who posted the original thread finally decided that it wasn't reliable. I'll try and find the other threads relating to this method and post the links as it was also mentioned a few weeks ago.

Edit: Found the link:

Suicide – Kefka Ponders

Posts about Suicide written by Kefka P

kefkaponders.wordpress.com

Cliffs? I'm lazy.

 

[WolfgangA]

First time I saw this, I liked this method too but it seemed too good to be true and with some further research I've found out its not that reliable. I wish I was wrong and it did work.

 

[Rabbit50]

I think this method has the potential to be reliable. I've seen several articles warning people about it and have heard of people dying accidentally from it.
I did have a practise in the bath last night, but realise I hadn't hyperventilated enough (or maybe I hadn't done it properly). I could hold my breath underwater for a longer time than usual afterwards (although I wasn't sure if I was supposed to exhale or inhale before I submerged), but never got anywhere near passing out. I've been practising hyperventilating since then, and can get a little more dizzy than I did last night, but can't make myself pass out afterwards.
I don't think the SWB method is 'unreliable', just because I can't make myself pass out, because I have read about people who can. If this was the case, then several methods would be 'unreliable', just because I haven't perfected the technique to use them. I can understand why to ctb is so difficult (after all, we don't want people dying by accident, just because they have held their breath etc), but it is frustrating having tried a few methods this month, but with no success with any of them. I think my next attempt may be with a plastic bag - I did start to try it previously, but discovered that my bags (including the backup ones) all had holes in them. Next time, I will try using a supermarket 'bag for life'. There's a satisfying sense of irony about it! Or maybe I'll just die in my sleep tonight as a result of all of my hyperventilating attempts - that would be even better!

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Honestly, I don't see how this could ever work, unless it was accidental somehow. How is the fight or flight response overcome?

 

[Rabbit50]

Honestly, I don't see how this could ever work, unless it was accidental somehow. How is the fight or flight response overcome?

I can understand how the fight or flight response is overcome - usually when you hold your breath underwater, as your oxygen level decreases, your carbon dioxide levels rise. This increase in CO2 is the 'alarm' telling you to breathe.
When you hyperventilate first, you decrease the amount of CO2 in your blood. This time, when you hold your breath and run out of oxygen, the CO2 level isn't sufficiently high enough to 'raise the alarm', so you don't realise that you need to take a breath. Having looked into it a bit more, it seems that you may have to keep repeating the 'hyperventilate and then hold your breath as long as possible' cycle for it to work.
Having said that, lots of swimmers and divers must do this regularly, but there are very few deaths, so I don't think it can be guaranteed to work.
I did read a story this week about a competent swimmer who just walked out to sea and drowned very quickly - she had left a note so drowned deliberately. I wonder if she used this technique. She may have been following the 'hyperventilate then hold your breath' cycle before she entered the water.

 

[treetop.grazer]

It seems to me that if you've already got the hang of hyperventilation and are passing out from it (I'm yet to manage that, any advice?) then, in the right situation (i.e. nobody will find you and you can faint in a volume of water) then it's still a reasonably reliable method. Once I manage to hyper then faint then a visit to a quiet, local lake is on the cards for me.