Is N really worth it over SN?

[Mbound]

From what I've read it seems like the main drawback to SN is that it's more complicated (you need multiple different meds) and you might get a headaches or some other unpleasant side effects and don't knock out as quick. And slightly less of a sure thing. It does seem that one edge SN has over N though is the taste which is just "salty" vs "horribly bitter" as many say N is. I'm currently about 80% sure I'm gonna order the N but I just wanted to get people's personal thoughts on if it's truly worth it. I know it sounds stupid but I'm a little worried about the intense bitterness because I am very very sensitive to smells/tastes and it's easy to nauseate me and I'd just worry that even with the antiemetic this would somehow prompt me to puke everything up.

Do you personally think it's worth it?

 

[Escaper Boy]

If I have access (and money) for N, I think I will choose N over SN. N will make me sleep quickly. I love the idea of sleeping as the final chapter of my life. Also, my body will stay intact after death. While SN will turn my skin blue (horrible sight). I feel like the "dignity" that N creates will outweight the horrible taste that I have to endure.

 

[gladiatorstyle]

I don't see SN as reliable. People have reported severe headaches with SN and the thought of my body turning bluish and skin discolored isn't necessarily a pleasant thing. Also, I couldn't find any video of people using SN. With N, you just go into a deep sleep and poof! And a video is shown of people taking N and I have to say that looks pretty comfy.

 

[Mbound]

If I have access (and money) for N, I think I will choose N over SN. N will make me sleep quickly. I love the idea of sleeping as the final chapter of my life. Also, my body will stay intact after death. While SN will turn my skin blue (horrible sight). I feel like the "dignity" that N creates will outweight the horrible taste that I have to endure.

I agree that that about sleep being important in the final moments... I think the main appeal to me is the simplicity. I'm scared I'd screw up the SN protocol with my incompetence. But the taste is a weirdly big thing for me...hard to think of my final moments being tasting something absolutely vile as well.

 

[discokicks]

I'd like N like most of us. I don't know how to do that bitcoin stuff. It's easier to get SN and just hope for the best

 

[Mbound]

I'd like N like most of us. I don't know how to do that bitcoin stuff. It's easier to get SN and just hope for the best

The bitcoin ended up not being as complicated as I thought it would be if you use coinbase. It's still a bit confusing because it fluctuates literally by the minute and takes a long time to process to the point you can even send it but it's definitely not impossible to figure out.

 

[Halo13]

I'd take N over SN as there's also no antidote to N. Can't afford it though.

 

[Camille Lejeune]

I'd like N like most of us. I don't know how to do that bitcoin stuff. It's easier to get SN and just hope for the best

You can use Moneygram or Western Union.

 

[Walilamdzi]

What are the legal implications of importing N?

 

[spanishguy22]

I'd take N over SN as there's also no antidote to N. Can't afford it though.

I don't think that's true.

N would be perfect if it weren't for the vomiting factor... Imagine puking and then you have no choice but to call emergency and go right to ward. Worst case scenario you can't even do that before you slip into com and get saved day later with brain damage.

 

[Mbound]

What are the legal implications of importing N?

There have been some cases where people got fined but the chances of serving time is very very very slim. I mean first of all the chances of it getting seized by customs are slim (depending on where you are) and even if they do seize it they'll probably just send you a warning letter. Admittedly though I am speaking with experience only in the states. I do know in certain European countries and Australia it's harder to get and maybe even harsher penalties because they don't like Philip Nitschke, the Australian guy who created the Peaceful Pill Handbook.

 

[manderley]

My concern is that it would likely be seized at UK customs. There doesn't appear to be anyone on here from the UK that has successfully got hold of it

 

[Walilamdzi]

My concern is that it would likely be seized at UK customs. There doesn't appear to be anyone on here from the UK that has successfully got hold of it

Oh really? I didn't know that.

 

[Mbound]

My concern is that it would likely be seized at UK customs. There doesn't appear to be anyone on here from the UK that has successfully got hold of it

yeah I hadn't heard that either, though I did hear it's less likely than the states or Canada. That's awful.

 

[Umbra]

I'd just buy the one you can get your hands on with a preference of N but honestly you should be dying no matter which you choose so it doesn't matter much

 

[Alan James]

What are the legal implications of importing N?

Where I live: 20 years in a high security prison for smuggling highly dangerous substances in large quantities (I studied local laws and similar cases). In some Asian countries - even the death penalty. When they say that there will be nothing terrible if customs find it, they usually mean the countries of the first world (like US, Canada, UK, Germany - if you live in them then you have nothing to fear). But most of this world are corrupt third world shitholes. The customs in them are so strict because they are very corrupt, for example, they often check packages with liquids because they think that it is alcohol and that they don't pay fees for it, test the liquid to understand what it is and here they are in for a surprise. Therefore, I am very afraid to order N but probably still try because it is the perfect method for me and I dreamed about it for a long time.

 

[manderley]

The only reason I would prefer N over SN or any other way, is I work in healthcare and I once knew a doctor who had worked with patients who had failed suicide attempts. We were discussing it one day (they weren't aware that I plan to ctb) and they said in their experience, an overdose of an anaesthetic is the most successful and that the most common failed attempts they had seen were by hanging. They didn't actually mention any specific anaesthetic, but when researching anaesthetic for ctb, I can only find info on the use of N.

But like you, I'm also very sensitive to strong tastes/smells so worry I would just throw it back up. I wonder if it would be possible to just inject it?

 

[Mbound]

The only reason I would prefer N over SN or any other way, is I work in healthcare and I once knew a doctor who had worked with patients who had failed suicide attempts. We were discussing it one day (they weren't aware that I plan to ctb) and they said in their experience, an overdose of an anaesthetic is the most successful and that the most common failed attempts they had seen were by hanging. They didn't actually mention any specific anaesthetic, but when researching anaesthetic for ctb, I can only find info on the use of N.

But like you, I'm also very sensitive to strong tastes/smells so worry I would just throw it back up. I wonder if it would be possible to just inject it?

Makes me wish I had training in nursing. The feeling of being injected with the "twilight" anesthesia drug and you get that tingly, happy feeling for a second then your body goes heavy and you drift off...that would be the absolute best way to go for me.

 

[hamednova]

N is the VIP ticket out of here, if you have it and its tested legit its a great way to go.
Philip Nitschke said that sn is the poor mans Nembutal and hes not wrong.

 

[JoeFailure]

N is the VIP ticket out of here, if you have it and its tested legit its a great way to go.
Philip Nitschke said that sn is the poor mans Nembutal and hes not wrong.

How can you test it to make sure it's legit? I'm thinking about trying to get it.

 

[hamednova]

How can you test it to make sure it's legit? I'm thinking about trying to get it.

Buy a test kit from exit international.

 

[JoeFailure]

Buy a test kit from exit international.

Thanks! It's all so complicated!

 

[JJ-NOHOPE]

If you get your N from A it is legit. Many of us have tried small amounts. You don't need a test kit.

 

[gladiatorstyle]

If you're over 200lbs, would you say that you need 2 bottles? Also, could someone PM me A's proper email just to verify I'm talking to the correct individual. Thanks.

 

[Sweetrelease]

If you're over 200lbs, would you say that you need 2 bottles? Also, could someone PM me A's proper email just to verify I'm talking to the correct individual. Thanks.

I'm 240lbs and ordered 3 bottles

 

[gladiatorstyle]

I'm 240lbs and ordered 3 bottles

What anti emetics would you recommend, I don't think I can get any prescribed... And do you think the whole process will be painful when taking N? I just hope it doesn't feel like I'm drowning or suffocating if that even makes sense....

 

[Alec]

I don't see SN as reliable. People have reported severe headaches with SN and the thought of my body turning bluish and skin discolored isn't necessarily a pleasant thing. Also, I couldn't find any video of people using SN. With N, you just go into a deep sleep and poof! And a video is shown of people taking N and I have to say that looks pretty comfy.

Can you link the video please?

 

[Johnnythefox]

My concern is that it would likely be seized at UK customs. There doesn't appear to be anyone on here from the UK that has successfully got hold of it

I know of one definite that I can think of at the moment, I'm sure there's more who received it in the UK, although I personally wouldn't risk it because of customs.

 

[JadedGray]

I would say so because we know we're getting N from a reliable source, since it's mentioned in the PPeH. With SN, you might not get a good batch or the purity might not be as high as the seller claims.

 

[gladiatorstyle]

So, being over 200lbs I would have to order 3 bottles and match all bottles with orange juice to clear the taste? I really wish someone could link a guide to all of this to make things easier.