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1) What are the chances of success?
2) If you compare it from the method with a bag and a balloon, which method is better?
3) Is 50L Enough?
 
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It should work in theory with a big enough tank if you seal it, but it isn't ideal because you'd need an awful lot of gas to make sure you displace all the oxygen. The biggest tank you can find, I'd say. Even then it might not be enough. I'd highly recommend a bag instead. I don't know about the balloon method
 
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It should work in theory with a big enough tank if you seal it, but it isn't ideal because you'd need an awful lot of gas to make sure you displace all the oxygen. The biggest tank you can find, I'd say. Even then it might not be enough. I'd highly recommend a bag instead. I don't know about the balloon method
Thanks for the info. I bought the gas that is in the bottle. Apparently it was diluted with air since I couldn't pass out. Any advice on how to buy clean gas without cheating? Or check it for cleanliness?
 
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Thanks for the info. I bought the gas that is in the bottle. Apparently it was diluted with air since I couldn't pass out. Any advice on how to buy clean gas without cheating? Or check it for cleanliness?
Search for testing gas for oxygen / CO2. Each would need a substance that you pass the gas through and see if it changes colour. I can't remember what I used to test for CO2 off hand. If you buy argon they'll normally say if it's mixed with something
 
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I'm only aware that argon can be checked during welding, but for nitrogen and helium I haven't heard a way, maybe in the near future I'll be able to find
 
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Search for testing gas for oxygen / CO2. Each would need a substance that you pass the gas through and see if it changes colour. I can't remember what I used to test for CO2 off hand. If you buy argon they'll normally say if it's mixed with something
Food grade 99.9% used for brewing. Forget sitting in a bathroom : theyre for other things; do some reading here to find the tech using modified diving or surgical masks. Yes it costs some but it is a whole lot cheaper than messing round waiting for drug cocktails to arrive. Effective too. Best.
 
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Why liquid nitrogen as opposed to just nitrogen?
 
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Why liquid nitrogen as opposed to just nitrogen?
Perhaps it is better, in another version there are many nuances, this publication was made for comparison
 
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Perhaps it is better, in another version there are many nuances, this publication was made for comparison
IDK. I do know that liquid nitrogen is extremely cold and I think that precludes its use as far as using some type of mask with it. I just don't see how that would work. Maybe it could work in a confined space. Who knows?
 
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The liquid Nβ‚‚ method has already been done in a car using a huge amount (5 tanks).
The cost for the tanks a filling will be easily $1000+.

It would be easier to use a Low oxygen training tent.
There are no advantages with that method over the classic ExitBag.

Why liquid nitrogen as opposed to just nitrogen?
Evaporation at ambient temperature without needing regulators.
 
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Evaporation at ambient temperature without needing regulators.
Does this make it preferable somehow? Just because it evaporates? Or, it's just easier? Surely, it is not cheaper since you said it took 5 tanks at a cost of $1000+, when a single N2 tank and regulator can be had for much less.