Is it only me or is the topic suicide often used for a cash grab?

[noname223]

I had the thought when I listened to artists. There is a band called "teen suicide". Or there are the "suicideboys". I don't know their background but I feel ambivalent about their names and their implications. There is this very popular movie "Suicide Squad" that I never watched. One could say the Joker movie sort of played with it but a lesser degree.

So many people try to scam desperate suicidal people online. It feels like there is a whole industry for that out there. Countless people allegedly offer N. I think many offers stem from developing countries where they laugh at grandparents of western societies wanting to die in peace. When I was severely suicidal the first time I also sort of fell for it. But I did not order anything. But I was curious and I was not aware how the game is played to that time point.

Then there are assisted suicide organizations which demand insane amounts of money. For me that is a 2 class society. I could not afford that. After all the ruminating I might even prefer my SN in my apartment all alone. I think it easier for me this way. I am pissed about the regulations and the prices are ridiculous. It is a shame that dying in peace is only affordable to middle or upper class people. I feel ambivalent about the Sarco. This Nitschke guy seems to be self-centred and likes the spotlight a little bit too much. For me it feels like he cares so much about the attention. And at the same time while they are doing all the money they look with disgrace at this forum and community. At least we are not making money with it.

Then there are people like Kenneth Law who sell suicide kits for way too much money. I am very glad I never ordered from his website. Honestly, I don't know why but I had a bad feeling with this website. One reason was Canada is outside of the EU and it is easier to be confiscated by the police with this long distance. At least this was my reasoning.

 

[Pluto]

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Well there was this one time I spent over 20 dollars donating to a helping suicidal teens charity that was setup outside of a Chipotle. I admittedly was drawn to their stand because they mentioned suicide and instead of ignoring them I decided to donate because they were also giving out some fidget bubble pop toys.

Outside of that I can't think of a single time the topic of suicide was able to convince me successfully to spend money I wasn't already going to spend.

 

[sserafim]

Everything is used for a cash grab

 

[CTB Dream]

This ppl any do make cash no mtr tpc wat this ppl no undrstd pain sffr all do think all life money

 

[ringo99]

You can monetize any topic under the sun. Just look at tiktok and youtube

 

[Kavka]

I don't know. If you don't care about ethics and personal monetary gain is your only goal, then there are probably better ways and other groups of vulnerable people that you can exploit. It's probably way more profitable to give people (false) hope and sell them stuff that doesn't work.

I think most people who are assisting people to commit suicide in some way are motivated by reasons other than money.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Huh?

 

[Artemisia]

As already said, some people will con and exploit anyone who falls for it. Suicidal people or with suicidal ideation may be a minority but those who try to exploit them are also trying to exploit anyone else.

I guess there's a market for every niche. And so those bands you mentioned, I wouldn't say they're exploitative, but more that they catter to a certain kind of goth/emo crowd. I certainly was drawn to that sort of music but didn't think of myself as being taken advante of. I don't see them as any different from bands that catter to any other group.

As for the high prices of clinics and organizations and everything else that assists in suicide, I have to agree with you. The medications, doctors, nurses, etc, etc, etc all add up very steep prices. And then they have to have some profit too. Unfortunately I don't see it changing any time soon, not until the right to a peaceful death becomes a human right. And I think we all know when that'll happen...

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Everything is used for a cash grab

Exactly. People would even try to capitalise on oxygen if it was possible to. Literally everything else is used for capitalism

 

[SuicidalOrganism]

Exactly. People would even try to capitalise on oxygen if it was possible to. Literally everything else is used for capitalism

In 150 years its going to become a reality. Monetizing "fresh oxygen"

 

[noname223]

In 150 years its going to become a reality. Monetizing "fresh oxygen"

Replace 150 years with 30 years if the climate and environment crisis continues in such a high pace as of today.

 

[ClownWorld2023]

Exactly. People would even try to capitalise on oxygen if it was possible to. Literally everything else is used for capitalism

Already exists.

You can buy oxygen in compressed gas form, both for industrial and health purposes.
Though I think the prices are fair and not overpriced, because there are atleast two large companies doing the production: Linde and Air Liquide.

 

[pilotviolin]

I had the thought when I listened to artists. There is a band called "teen suicide". Or there are the "suicideboys". I don't know their background but I feel ambivalent about their names and their implications. There is this very popular movie "Suicide Squad" that I never watched. One could say the Joker movie sort of played with it but a lesser degree.

So many people try to scam desperate suicidal people online. It feels like there is a whole industry for that out there. Countless people allegedly offer N. I think many offers stem from developing countries where they laugh at grandparents of western societies wanting to die in peace. When I was severely suicidal the first time I also sort of fell for it. But I did not order anything. But I was curious and I was not aware how the game is played to that time point.

$uicideboys and teen suicide i actually think are genuine in their expression, have different styles and genres and backgrounds (i enjoy their music regardless though. $B is rap, teen suicide is guy with a guitar indie idk). however i really do think you are right, whether it be scams, only allowing old rich people to ctb, political cries to morality (only to defund mental health services when they get in power), news and social media clickbait. sometimes i feel like some people just want their own place in line to kick down suicidal people to feel better about themselves, i was on instagram and this low tier news page had a video of someone basically CTBing in a car, and left the comments open, which is so disrespectful, and not something i want to scroll on in my reels, knowing it likely wasnt posted with permission.