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is it just me that hate the term “kill myself” “suicide”
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The term "kill myself" "suicide" "suicidal" tiggers me. I would feel somewhat awkward/ weird whenever I have to use those words when speaking to my therapist. That's why I say/ use ctb a lot.
I was thinking if it's just me who feel this way.
Well, you can always change to any other word.
In my native language I often say self-saw or self-extermination
More neutral would be: end the suffering, say goodbye, take a ticket to heaven, evacuation
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Words like "kill" and "suicide" are very harsh in comparison to more pleasant phrases that have the same meaning, like ctb and Faust's suggestions, so it sounds less threatening and more peaceful to use those descriptions. Thinking of the process in those terms might help you or anyone else who feels like they are ready to ease into it.
Since coming here, I have realized that I like the phrase ctb, just because of the reasons that I described. It sounds nicer than saying, "I'm going to kill myself" even though the meaning is the same. Maybe that is why you feel more comfortable saying it as well?
Words like "kill" and "suicide" are very harsh in comparison to more pleasant phrases that have the same meaning, like ctb and Faust's suggestions, so it sounds less threatening and more peaceful to use those descriptions. Thinking of the process in those terms might help you or anyone else who feels like they are ready to ease into it.
Since coming here, I have realized that I like the phrase ctb, just because of the reasons that I described. It sounds nicer than saying, "I'm going to kill myself" even though the meaning is the same. Maybe that is why you feel more comfortable saying it as well?
The term "kill myself" "suicide" "suicidal" tiggers me. I would feel somewhat awkward/ weird whenever I have to use those words when speaking to my therapist. That's why I say/ use ctb a lot.
I was thinking if it's just me who feel this way.
Hence why organizations like Dignitas, Exit International etc. use euphemisms like 'exiting' and 'self-deliverance'. They're just terms that we use to make suicide more palatable and easier to talk about since 'suicide' has so many negative connotations.
There are also people who complain about the use of euphemisms. They feel that using euphemisms to make suicide sound more "gentle" or "pleasant" is tantamount to fooling ourselves and potentially others about the nature of the act. I personally don't mind what people want to call it, but I avoid euphemisms because those people have a point.
Recently, though, @Hasssssuùuu (I think?) suggested using euphemisms to keep SanSui from being quite so high on the list when people google "commit suicide". I'm not sure that was a serious suggestion, though, or what the preferred terms might be. Waltzing out? Going on a Teddy Bears' Picnic? Going with the Man in the Long Black Coat? Swimming Over the Dam?
With this website, I think the cat's already out the bag. Personally I think we shouldn't hold back from calling it what it is because society needs to have important conversations around dignified death. Far too often it is 'experts' and pro-life adherents who control and dictate the discourse around suicide, but the most important voices - the one's who out of sheer desperation and hopelessness are driven to this point, well they're completely dismissed.
The term "kill myself" "suicide" "suicidal" tiggers me. I would feel somewhat awkward/ weird whenever I have to use those words when speaking to my therapist. That's why I say/ use ctb a lot.
I was thinking if it's just me who feel this way.
Yeah I agree. I don't mind suicide but whenever I say kill myself it sounds like an overdramatic teenage girl stereotype, when no, I literally mean kill myself.
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It's emotive and can be a trigger for some. I'm different, but it's personal, so I wouldn't expect others to feel the same. For me, using an acronym like CTB is like trying to gloss over the seriousness of the act. I won't do that, so I say 'someone makes an attempt to kill themselves' because it feels like I'm being more realistic. The outcome is death. The act is an attempt, not a foregone conclusion.
One thing to note with "I want to die" versus "I want to kill myself" is that the former doesn't imply (suicidal) intent at all. I've learned that you can use that to your advantage when talking to doctors and the like to avoid getting hospitalized. It's very subtle, but they pick up on that. By saying "I want to die", it could easily be taken as "I'm tired of living, but I'm not going to kill myself". Which is probably why you use that expression with your parents, I suppose, to not freak them out too much. Just wanted to point it out because it took me a while to notice. I'm not a native English speaker, though, so that could be why.
Personally, I like to say "I want to end my life" as a slightly softer way of saying I want to kill myself. I do use "suicide" quite regularly, though, but only around people I trust deeply (which are not many).
despite being mindful and respectful of others' triggers, i prefer "kill myself", "commit suicide", "dying", and "death" to euphemisms. i think the reality of killing things (food) in order to survive should be confronted -- primarily for the sake of food with central nervous systems, living a life of hopeless suffering. i think it's helpful and important for society to normalise suicide, euthanasia, dying, and death. whether one thinks that death is bad or not, it's a natural and inevitable part of life. death and nonexistence are preferable to a life of hopeless suffering.
when someone's leg is broken -- one example of a temporary problem -- the treatment should facilitate a permanent and painless solution. this can be done with e.g. a plaster cast and painkillers. this minimises suffering, and is generally done as a matter of course without so much as an eyeblink.
when someone's life is broken -- another example of a temporary problem -- the treatment should facilitate a permanent and painless solution. this can be done with e.g. nembutal. this minimises suffering, is generally avoided at all costs, and makes people wince.
I'm not really bothered by vernacular that much as we all know CTB = suicide = off oneself = kill oneself, etc. As for why people may be bothered by it, it is mostly due to the stigma and negatively charged emotions that are associated with said word.
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