Is god evil, powerless or non - existent ?

[pauly369]

I believe that if there is a god , then it is truly evil because it does nothing to stop people like paedophiles from doing horrifying things to children. What if one of those children prays to god to help them ?
What happens ?
Absolutely nothing happens. No ficticious sky god comes to the rescue.
God is also supposed to be all - powerful and all knowing, so it must have known that things are going to happen before they actually occur. So why does it do nothing to stop horrifying events from happening in the first place ?
It seems obvious to me that there is no bearded asshole in the sky called god and that the notion of a god was dreamed up by a bunch of deluded and very bored people many years ago.

 

[Namelesa]

I don't believe in God anymore but if he does exist then he is a sadist wanting to experiment and toy with us. He isn't all loving as he would actually stop our suffering. He is manipulative for trying to get us to worship him.

 

[pauly369]

I don't believe in God anymore but if he does exist then he is a sadist wanting to experiment and toy with us. He isn't all loving as he would actually stop our suffering. He is manipulative for trying to get us to worship him.

100% agree.

 

[devils~advocate]

Unfortunately this is a sad acknowledgement.
Which version of God? The Jewish...Christian...Islamic....what about philosophies such as Hinduism, Buddhism...etc etc etc
Within Christianity....there are different versions.....Orthodox.....then you have strange ones like Jehovah Witnesses, Mormonism, etc

Once you learn about them all, you realize that one of them can't be correct without all the others being wrong.....Or they are all wrong.
You also learn how greatly odd some of these are....the rules, rituals, etc....are just for lack of better words.....weird and bizarre.
Its just a simple Google or Youtube search to learn some of this. It is eye opening for sure.




Its depressing to know this. I know, Ive gone thru this exercise and it can sad to acknowledge this all.

 

[TheHolySword]

I just don't think it matters whether he exists or not, or if people believe or not.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

I don't believe in there being a God but if there was then I don't know about judging them based on human standards of morality. Maybe it's because I'm taking an approach that's a bit similar to one commonly taken in biology when studying non-human animals, but I feel like we shouldn't be projecting human qualities and beliefs onto someone who isn't human. Otherwise, you can never truly understand their nature and what led them to create a world like this.

 

[pauly369]

I just don't think it matters whether he exists or not, or if people believe or not.

Yes, it seems to me that its best to remain indifferent to the question of god because we will probably never figure it all out anyway.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

If it exists, it's both, honestly. Dracarys for him

 

[pauly369]

Unfortunately this is a sad acknowledgement.
Which version of God? The Jewish...Christian...Islamic....what about philosophies such as Hinduism, Buddhism...etc etc etc
Within Christianity....there are different versions.....Orthodox.....then you have strange ones like Jehovah Witnesses, Mormonism, etc

Once you learn about them all, you realize that one of them can't be correct without all the others being wrong.....Or they are all wrong.
You also learn how greatly odd some of these are....the rules, rituals, etc....are just for lack of better words.....weird and bizarre.
Its just a simple Google or Youtube search to learn some of this. It is eye opening for sure.




Its depressing to know this. I know, Ive gone thru this exercise and it can sad to acknowledge this all.

Yes, its mind - boggling how many different religions and divisions there are.
Its also crazy how much war and conflict are created in the names of these so - called religions of peace.

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

I agree with the others, but if a god did exist, I do think they'd have to be powerful because else the title of God Slayer wouldn't mean much.

 

[Yonlux]

If God had existed he comitted suicide because nor him would take this existence anymore lol

 

[Custos]

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

 

[dingokettle3531]

If god exists, but isn't doing anything other than watch as we suffer, he's no different than the devil. Simple as that

 

[Persik]

It is not as obvious as you think. God is always good, and we are humans, so our concepts of goodness and morality are not His concepts. Why does He not prevent pedophile abuse, for example? One possible answer would be that He has given man free will, reflecting His likeness, and does not interfere with it directly, since only man decides how to use this gift: to kill a child or to save (for example). If a child asks for help, will God save him? I know of cases of salvation, when a person, having turned to God, received what he asked for. Not all, of course, but there are enough such cases. We do not know the ways of the Lord, and no one will tell you for sure why God allowed this, but did not allow that, etc. But here is what is certain: you should not humanize God with your thoughts.

 

[dreamingofpeace]

agnostic but i think the jewish god was completely unable to empathize with us as an entity outside our universe, our inner lives are just as incomprehensible to god as god is to us + the way we personify and apply human morals to god is prolly the same thing god does to us. genesis to me is basically a story about the origins of generational trauma, god violently punished the first humans just for being children and wanting to learn, while having no concept of how humans experience violence because they were brand new and because we're speaking different languages, and the violence god inflicted caused all the subsequent violence we inflicted on each other. i think god grew up with us and has learned to regret but you can't take back the harm u cause. so it's basically like. a question of whether or not you want to forgive an abusive parent who knows better now but can't undo the damage. which is an individual choice for everyone

 

[nux_walpurgis]

He is indifferent lol

 

[bobblong]

God probably exist , but his role is a passive observer.

 

[Halfhourdays]

Non-existent.

 

[CarrotEater]

For me religion never made any sense. I usually stay away from discussing it, because it is not my goal to persuade others from it, but when I speak of it, it's hard to think otherwise.

I was friends with several very religous people, I know a priest with whom I talk every now and then. I can get along with people with different views from mine.

That said, religion never made any sense for me. I see that it helps a lot of people, gives them meaning, christianitty has a lot of good rules which, if followed by everybody, would make the world a better place.

What I dislike about it the most is that people in power use it as a tool, to manipulate, or to make others think they are part of the same team when in reality they are not.
Many, not all, people in power pretend to be religious, meanwhile their actions do not prove their faith. Of course everybody can make mistakes, but it's often clear when they are not religious despite claiming to be.

It doesn't help that there were and are so many religions over the years, which contradict each other. At least one religion is wrong, how do we know which one is the true one? It just does not make any sense.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

I'd say the only definition of God that doesn't fall under these human categories is the one given by Spinoza. God is in everything, it's nature expressing itself, it's the entirety of existence with everything we consider good and bad and beautiful and horrible. It's not a transcendental being with anthropomorphic features like a bearded white guy writing down how many times you masturbate so he can punish you, it's just...there, what is there and has been there through all the time. It has a consciousness, it's one of its many attributes, and it expresses itself in every conscious being.

Sounds very abstract, but it's actually quite materialistic in a way as well. I tend to prefer this definition of God because it does away with anthropomorphizing what's supposed to be an infinite and omnipotent being. At the end of the day there are entities and concepts we will never be able to comprehend, much like we will never be able to access noumena due to our very nature, so just pick whichever idea of God makes you feel more comfortable and is compatible with your life values.

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

Ah, the wonderful paradox of Epicurus. Still holds true to this day.

 

[demise]

I believe that if there is a god , then it is truly evil because it does nothing to stop people like paedophiles from doing horrifying things to children. What if one of those children prays to god to help them ?
What happens ?
Absolutely nothing happens. No ficticious sky god comes to the rescue.
God is also supposed to be all - powerful and all knowing, so it must have known that things are going to happen before they actually occur. So why does it do nothing to stop horrifying events from happening in the first place ?
It seems obvious to me that there is no bearded asshole in the sky called god and that the notion of a god was dreamed up by a bunch of deluded and very bored people many years ago.

Religion is a human-made social construct that provides people with comfort and a sense of security when facing death and the "unknown" God is non-existent in my personal opinion.

 

[daysnumbered]

If there is a god, I do not think he interferes with life. He would probably just control the space/time continuum. Since there is multiple dimensions, he might reside in a dimension we cannot perceive. This god might be goddess, or anything beyond are understanding. I do not think God is like what abrahamic religions claim him/her/it to be.

 

[MercenariesofMidgar]

I think on the scenario that God is real, it'd be like those animal documentaries that would be on TV. Where the camera men watch from afar, but never interact, as to not influence and disturb the order that as established itself without the involvement of the camera men. I think pretty much every established religion is wrong because I don't think God has interacted with us much. If anything, I do believe in the possibility in reincarnation though. Not sure of the soul, but the feeling of "consciousness" after an undetermined amount of time may rise again

 

[Anne Alias]

I mean, I don't think it exists. If it does, somehow, then you've gotta solve the epicurean paradox to make any sense of it (or just accept that gods a dick)

 

[TheHolySword]

People spend too much time debating the existence and purpose of [a] god. People can believe whatever they want. It just doesn't matter.

 

[DarkRange55]

Epicurean Paradox


• If God is willing to prevent evil, but not able, then he is not omnipotent.


• If he is able, but not willing, then he is malevolent.


• If he is both able and willing, then whence cometh evil?


• If he is neither able nor willing, then why call him God?

 

[Pluto]

 

[Halfhourdays]