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noname223

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I am probaby one of them.

But I want to talk about a college friend of mine. He is clearly smarter than me. He is a really good guy and I like him a lot. I read some of his college theses and I could not work on such difficult topics. I alwayss had better marks than him though. I read one thesis of him which was really complicated. But I had the feeling he did not dedicate himself to the topic. I would search for an easier topic to understand it fully. And he picked a really difficult topic and got a bad grade because he didn't understand the concept in-depth. And I think he didn't invest that much time and energy into it.

In the end I am also an intellectul nothing burger. But I at least try to do some reading. My knowledge consists mostly of media narratives and mainstream conventional wisdom. I am not a great independent thinker. But if I am really interested in a topic I am willed to read myriads articles about it, think about it excessively and even watch lectures.

I think my friend has a bias. He knows he is pretty smart but because of that he thinks his advices were always always superior. And this annoys me. So I am filing a complaint against my therapist. There are valid reasons against it. But overall the pro arguments are way more convincing for me. I called myriads of times patient cousellors to get the full picture for my specific case. I often heard different opinions. My friend has a strong opinion against filing that complaint. And when I want to explain to him why I disagree with him he replies that he doesn't have the energy or motivation to listen to me. If you have a strong opinion on something, and you want to give someone an advice you should be at least willing to hear the full story. I am lstening to legal experts all the time. And he isn't interested in what they are saying at all. But he is interested in giving me his opinion. There were some tensions because of that.

I consider to buy stocks. And he asked me whether I want to learn from his financial knowledge. The things he told me didn't hear very convincing. I get the feeling he listens to finance Youtubers and not particular good ones. My opinion is investing in a diversed ETF with low costs in a longterm way is the best thing to do. I am not sure whether actually believes the following. But it sounded like he thinks trading was a smart thing to do. I told him I don't think as a layman trading is a smart decision. He disagreed. And well I am not listening to his financial advice. I think some lessons he learned stems from losing money by investing in crypto. He invested 1000 Euro. And lost the half of it. Personally, I am against investing crypto. But his lesson was selling is smart when it looks really bad for your investment. And I think this is exactly a wrong lesson. If he kept invested longterm he would have gained a lot of money with his investment. But this depends of course how your investments look like. But if you are really convinced of an asset you should not panic too fast. And he exaclty did that. It is paradoxically for me that he thinks selling was a smart thing to do. He also argues if he was invest in gold or silver he would immediately sell all of it.

He is still a great guy though. I am also puzzled how such a smart young men can believe in all of that. I think he simply has no dedication for anything. If I had his intellectual capacities I could manage to read way more and to be a way better imposter intellectual.

What do you think?
 
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WhatCouldHaveBeen32

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I think I would not buy stocks unless you have actual money to invest; investment with low amounts earns nothing. And investing in crypto/meme coins or something sounds like flipping; idk. Not my area of expertise, if I wanted to make money, I would've been making money in some way but I don't know in which way because I don't care.

Ur friend sounds like someone who thinks that just because they're good in something they have begun to think they're good at everything.
I just say that I don't know, COULD I KNOW? yes, most likely. Do I want to? No. The end.


What I'm trying to put here in a civil manner is that your friend is using his knowledge and the fact that you view him as smart to get good chemical feels from you by yapping about what he himself doesn't understand completely but has some basic ideas of it that can be found if you fucking ask CHATGPT or google. And you yourself said this (well not in this exact way but you get what I'm trying to say)

A good investor would probably go to a college (which he is supposedly) to get an actual job that allows him to save money in the tens of thousands, not 1000 euros. A good investor if not able to do that would try to go into a trade as a mechanic/plumber/etc or to become a real estate agent, etc.

Idk what friendships mean to you or your brain but your brain must really reward you with a strong fucking chemical cocktail to bear the people you've been talking about here. They all sound insufferable as fuck.
 
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Jan 2, 2026
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he simply doesn't know any better the smartest man make the dumbest moves thats what I experienced don't blame him he's still learning that doesn't mean you should shove you feellings aside though just give him his time your arguments are valid but he might not see that yet (maybe he never will idk) but what I do know he's a smart man doesn't mean that he is able to do anything with it it's like being a warrior without enemy's but if he would actually do his best he would outrank most people (this response is just from what you told me it might be different depending on the small things)
 
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itsgone2

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This is just one way of looking at it. Not trying to be sarcastic or anything. I have a similar friend and I thought similar things in the past.
Today he and his family are happy and have millions in savings and investments. They are set for life. I'm divorced and on this forum. Anyone reading this is in a similar state.
There are truly intelligent people out there that are happy and crushing it. Then there's the rest of us.
 
Dejected 55

Dejected 55

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May 7, 2025
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A lot of people are not nearly as smart as they think they are. Some people are so stupid they think they are smart. Other people are good at memorizing and repeating a performance in a given situation, but anything that requires even the slightest bit of adjustment, improvisation, independent thought, and they are paralyzed.

There are actual smart people in the world... but then many of them are arrogant, and think they are infallible and smarter than even they actually are. There are few people who are able to assess themselves honestly and admit their limitations and be humble about their skills or knowledge.

I've maybe met a handful of people of varying degrees of intelligence who actually knew who they were and were honest about it. Relatively "dumb" people who are honest and self-aware can do quite well because of that self-awareness. The same goes for smart people who are self-aware. But the idiots who think they are geniuses and the smart people who think they can do no wrong, they can get into arguments with each other and it will be nearly impossible to tell them apart.

The world needs more humble self-aware people of any intellect. That's where the meaningful innovations and advancements come.
 

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