Inert Gas Method: Why So Rare?

[bov]

I feel like there are only a couple dozen inert gas suicides reported a year—if it's so painless, why do you think that is?

Other methods are costly.

Is it just because it requires so much set-up (but even then, not *that* much set-up?)

 

[Sarahlynn]

For me it's the setup. Dunno, just seems very complicated? And I think the gas would be hard to get where I live.

 

[alexit]

I feel like there are only a couple dozen inert gas suicides reported a year—if it's so painless, why do you think that is?

Other methods are costly.

Is it just because it requires so much set-up (but even then, not *that* much set-up?)

The gas method was a lot more common before they changed helium. Reduced its purity.

 

[Lastsauce]

@alexit You can use any inert gas with proper regulator and amount.
Even propane is ok if you can tolerate the stinky additive it has and you use it outside so it won't explode.

 

[WearyOfStruggling]

I also wonder why more people don't consider it instead of other methods that are more painful, terrifying, and take longer to complete. I think that the technical details of understanding what type of gas cylinder and flowmeter regulator to use and where and how to get them put off a lot of people, especially those that don't have a basic understanding of compressed gas and experience attaching threaded connections together. Much of the information on these topics in the PPeH, such as using disposable balloon helium tanks which should no longer be considered because the gas will likely be mixed with air, is outdated and incorrect, adding to the confusion. Once one understands that a sufficiently large cylinder of inert gas can be easily purchased online, at least in the USA, and affordable flowmeter regulators that attach directly to the cylinder are available, putting together the setup becomes very easy.

Some people may envision the gas cylinder being very large, heavy and thus difficult to transport, store and conceal if neccessary, not realizing that 20 and 40 cubic foot cylinders are less than 20 inches tall and are light enough for anyone to pick up and carry.

I have also read on this forum that some people are put off by having the bag over the head due to feeling claustrophobic, but because one will fall unconscious after a few breaths, it would only have to be tolerated for a very short time. Another concern I have seen some state is even after unconsciousness, the person may be able to remove the bag, but after many years of experience with this method by Exit International, they haven't stated any concerns about this happening. I believe them when they say one will quickly go into a coma after losing consciousness due to lack of oxygen to the brain, and body movement isn't possible after that. I don't have any medical expertise, but based on my layman's understanding of oxygen starvation, that makes sense to me. These are just my opinions, and everyone has to decide for themselves what they believe about how this method affects the body.

IMO if more people understood the information above, inert gas would be a much more popular choice.

 

[Incorrigible77777]

IMO suicide by "SS methods" like inert gas, N, SN, night-night etc. wouldn't be reported at all in case people imitate the ways. News reports would just say this person "died by suicide". Only the mainstream CTB methods will be explained in reports e.g. hanging, jumping, charcoal.

 

[Lastsauce]

Are suicides even usually reported unless it was a celebrity or something "newsworthy".
Someone linked a news article few weeks ago which stated that there were over 27 000 firearm suicides in the USA in 2019. That's over 74 per day on average.
But yeah exit bag and sn etc are for those who first begin to search a good method for themselves and don't just try something on impulse.

 

[Englishman94]

It's not complicated, there are multiple videos showing how to setup regulators and flowmeters but my guess is that it's too expensive for people

 

[Meditation guide]

It's not complicated, there are multiple videos showing how to setup regulators and flowmeters but my guess is that it's too expensive for people

Regulators and flowmeters are many and varied and hard to figure out just by looking at them. It's not something you can pick up just by watching some videos. It also involves knowing exactly what to get, what type, and where to get it, and how to attach tubing, getting the gas, where to store it etc. It's very technical to those of us who are not welders or work with gas.

A bag over the head sounds intolerable to lots of us also. It's all really too much to do for lots of people.

 

[nitroautnz]

I think that it can be a lot of intimidating reason, the plastic bag on the head, the cost, depending on where you live for having all the supply. But if you motivated its not that complicated. you can buy a flowmeter that is made just for this purpose by the company MDB created by Dr Philip Nitschke. Its an expensive regulator, yes but the gas flow was prepared at 15l/min which after several tests seems to be the most efficient for providing enough inert gas et pushing away the CO that can create distress to the person.

And depending on where you live N or SN is easier to get and less scary. I planning to go with inert gas personally, I didn't find any other method that I can achieve in my country and CTB peacefully.

 

[feast or famine]

I think the mechanics of it can be off-putting to people, not to mention the cost.

 

[nitroautnz]

the mechanic seem at first complicated, but after having done some reading and watching a couple of video it is actually not that complicated. The cost i agree is an issue, even more if USD is not you main currency, it can make the price much higher if you buy the flowmeter from MDB... i think it should be around 500/600USD.