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Ta555

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I know they both taste horrible but for those that have tasted both or even if you know something about it, which is worse/better in terms of just the taste?
 
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Snake of Eden

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Seems that N is harder to drink from all the reports I have seen
 
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PerpetualPain

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Seems that N is harder to drink from all the reports I have seen
I know they both taste horrible but for those that have tasted both or even if you know something about it, which is worse/better in terms of just the taste?
It would be very hard to imagine SN tasting worse than vet N.
 
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Muse

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Dec 23, 2021
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I would probably puke trying to drink it. And I would probably fail. The bitter taste is... ewwww
 
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Nanako

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SN doesn't even taste that bad at all.
 
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GentleJerk

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Dec 14, 2021
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Neither are pleasant, SN would be like drinking strong salt water. But the bitter and alcoholic taste of N might be somewhat worse.

I have heard from multiple people who taste tested N that its not as bad as rumored though.
 
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Lost Magic

Lost Magic

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I have SN and N. I am used to drinking strong bitter kratom tea with lemon so I think I will be alright. I would have took the salt if I had no access to N but salty stuff makes me gag and feel sick. So, I guess it is different for everybody.
 
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Sherri

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It's the price we pay for the most peaceful death available, I guess.
I saw a doc abou an euthanasia clinic, this lady was just given an orange juice and she fell asleep peacefully with a smile on her face with all her family by her side. I know what you mean, we suffer so much in life, we deserved a peaceful exit too. Totally agree with you on that.
 
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Octogenarian

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I'm confused about the differences between "N" and "SN." I assume that SN is Sodium Nitrite, but what is "N"?
 
Octogenarian

Octogenarian

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Thanks. Does Nembutal have advantages over sodium nitrite? I'm not worried about cost or even taste.
 
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danlippers67

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Thanks. Does Nembutal have advantages over sodium nitrite? I'm not worried about cost or even taste.
It tastes way worse, its much harder to access (its illegal in most if not all countries but D can provide it), its more expensive, and its harder to store long-term if you plan on doing that. However, it has a much higher chance of killing you and you won't feel any pain. You'll be dead in a few minutes.

I would say Nembutal is better overall. Do you know how to contact D? I can help you out if you wish
 
Octogenarian

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Yes, I'd like to contact D, although if it tastes that bad isn't there a good chance that I'll upchuck it? I'm old, have Parkinson's Disease and face not being able to feed or dress myself if I don't find a way out before then.
Does D supply N in powder form or is it in liquid form? I'd be scared to try to inject it, afraid that I wouldn't do it right. Mixing a powder in water seems more foolproof.
 
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Lost Magic

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Yes, I'd like to contact D, although if it tastes that bad isn't there a good chance that I'll upchuck it? I'm old, have Parkinson's Disease and face not being able to feed or dress myself if I don't find a way out before then.
Sorry to hear you are going through all that octo. Things you need to know. Nembutal is not cheap. It costs hundreds of dollars. It is a risk to get it imported (obviously). You need to know a bit about cryptocurrency (bitcoins or Monero). And for the love of God, watch out for scammers. If somebody tells you that they have N that they no longer want and will sell you it, run for the bloody hills. The only source that I know is legit is from D and you can find his email in the Peaceful Pill Handbook on here. It is in the Nembutal section of the book and it also talks about the countless scammers out there.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/pph-nov-2021.80506/

Good luck! Btw an anti-sickness is recommended for both Nembutal and Sodium Nitrite.
 
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Foresight

Foresight

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Jun 14, 2019
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I don't get this but to each their own. N will knock you out so fast the taste will be long gone from your existence like everything else.

SN will have you vomiting, dizzy, and writhing for 20 minutes as your blood turns black. I find SN barbaric and I feel bad for people who are forced to use it.
its more expensive, and its harder to store long-term if you plan on doing that.
Is N hard to store long-term?
 
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TheUncommon

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May 19, 2021
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SN was salty, but it wasn't like I was drinking a cube of salt. More like just drinking a concentrated ramen packet
 
Niirvana

Niirvana

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Sep 18, 2020
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Did you attempt to ctb? What does it taste like to you?
I only tasted it with the tip of my tongue, I needed to know the taste. It's just salty nothing else. That is, dissolved in water is super drinkable. Buy a cheap one to test it, now I have 1 kg (yes 1kg). But I will not do ctb with that one, I will buy in some laboratory and I will do the aquarium test
 
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watchingthewheels

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Jan 23, 2021
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Is N hard to store long-term?
Everything I've read indicates no, NOT hard to store long term, as long as you don't unseal it, and keep it in a cool, dry place, not too hot or cold.
RE: storage and shelf life, per this link here: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-n-files-2-0.82469/

Storage - Store your N in a dark, cool, dry, safe and secure place. Vet N is designed to be stored on the shelf in an air-conditioned room. Some people like to store it in the fridge. There is no evidence that refrigeration prolongs its life, but there should be nothing wrong with storing it in the fridge if you like. Just keep the moisture away by placing it in an airtight container or a few layers of plastic ziplock bags for good measure.

Even though it contains propylene glycol to preserve and prevent freezing, don't store it in the freezer. This is so that there is less risk of N precipitating out of the solution more quickly, less drastic fluctuations in temperature, and because rubber doesn't like being frozen.

There is no recommended maximum or minimum temperature for storage, but it does mention to keep in a cool dry place, at or around room temperature (~18C). This would imply that avoiding extreme temperatures, both hot and freezing, is recommended. There's no reason to worry if you live in a freezing or very hot climate. Your N won't spoil on its way to you or if it gets left outside for a while. It's quite stable. As long as you keep it fairly happy in long term storage, it's all good.

Expiry and shelf life - If you would like to know the printed expiry date, you will have to ask D, as that info is not supplied, and would differ depending on when each individual unit is made. The typical expiration date is around 2 years- but as long as the seal is untouched, and it is in a cool, dry place away from direct light, it will keep for a very long time without degrading. Possibly up to 20 years according to PN.

Once the seal has been broken and the liquid exposed to ambient air and moisture, its shelf life is dramatically reduced. Exactly how long it will stay good for after opening is up for debate, but it is generally accepted to be a few weeks to a couple of months after opening.

If you notice the contents become milky/cloudy, this is a sign that the contents are precipitating out of the solution and possibly degrading. At this point testing can be performed to help determine if the N is still usable, however replacing the N should be considered.
 
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raghu1977

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Jan 29, 2022
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I have no idea why everyone is complaining about the taste of N. I have tried it twice - 1ml first time, 3ml the second time.

It is by no means a delicious beverage, but it is not vile by any means. Its bitter with alcoholic undertones. From my research- if you have ulcers or digestive issues - you may vomit, hence the anti-emetic.

There are also suggestions on washing it with alcohol, honey or neotame. I've actually got some neotame. But after tasting N - i really wont bother with other stuff. Im just gonna chug it and wash it down with a shot of coke and / or whiskey
 
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Shu

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Jan 21, 2022
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I have no idea why everyone is complaining about the taste of N. I have tried it twice - 1ml first time, 3ml the second time.
Right! I would much rather deal with the taste and knowing its going to work than having to go through all the processes with other methods.
 
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raghu1977

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Jan 29, 2022
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Your palate might be used to a lot more than some of us here. :hihi:


Which one are we talking about?
Coke as in coca-cola. I have never tried the other one. I might want to add it to my bucket list
Right! I would much rather deal with the taste and knowing its going to work than having to go through all the processes with other methods.
I think the biggest drawback with N is obtaining it. After that - it is just a question of chugging to ctb.
 
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lmon

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Jan 9, 2022
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I have no idea why everyone is complaining about the taste of N. I have tried it twice - 1ml first time, 3ml the second time.

It is by no means a delicious beverage, but it is not vile by any means. Its bitter with alcoholic undertones. From my research- if you have ulcers or digestive issues - you may vomit, hence the anti-emetic.

There are also suggestions on washing it with alcohol, honey or neotame. I've actually got some neotame. But after tasting N - i really wont bother with other stuff. Im just gonna chug it and wash it down with a shot of coke and / or whiskey
why did you try it twice? did one ml not have an affect on you?
 

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