Improving lethality of Nembutal

[Arak]

Nitschke mention Dilantin. I'm not sure what it would actually do, or if his claims are correct.

Anyway, I'm dealing with major tolerance to sedatives and a messed up CNS. I want to minimize chances of survival.

Comments/suggestions ?

 

[Smilla]

Nitschke mention Dilantin. I'm not sure what it would actually do, or if his claims are correct.

Anyway, I'm dealing with major tolerance to sedatives and a messed up CNS. I want to minimize chances of survival.

Comments/suggestions ?

Why not make it easy on yourself and choose another method if you are so concerned, and perhaps legitimately so?

 

[Arak]

@Smilla ,

It seems to be my best option.

 

[Smilla]

@Smilla ,

It seems to be my best option.

It's not your "best" option if it doesn't work— now is it?

I wanted N too but because of my alcoholism I abandoned it quickly and moved swiftly along to the exit bag/inert gas method.

 

[Arak]

@Smilla , you're on my ignore list. No offense. But there are certain group dynamics on this forum.

I considered inert gas as well, but I invested in N. The inert gas/exit bag method requires quite some investment (time, learning, effort etc). It also seemed convoluted. What is done is done. It's not about money, btw.

Back to the topic in #1.

 

[OfficerK]

You don't seem to be that interested in other people's input.

 

[JustAboutDone]

@Smilla , you're on my ignore list. No offense. But there are certain group dynamics on this forum.

I considered inert gas as well, but I invested in N. The inert gas/exit bag method requires quite some investment (time, learning, effort etc). It also seemed convoluted. What is done is done. It's not about money, btw.

Back to the topic in #1.

Your first sentence seemed a little abrupt, even hurtful, when someone has come forward to try and offer some sort of solution when they have encountered a similar problem.

 

[Deleted member 4993]

DailyMed - EUTHANASIA- pentobarbital sodium and phenytoin sodium solution
Phenytoin sodium exerts its effect during the deep anesthesia stage caused by the pentobarbital sodium. This ingredient, due to its cardiotoxic properties, hastens the stoppage of electrical activity in the heart. For use in dogs for humane, painless, and rapid euthanasia

Might explain :-)

 

[Chinaski]

@Smilla , you're on my ignore list. No offense. But there are certain group dynamics on this forum.

Would be very interested to know what you mean by "group dynamics on this forum".

Anyway, you've done this on literally every method. Researched it to death and moved on. If l were to tell you that dying of old age is a certainty, you'd find an article about a 109 year-old man as counter evidence. You've even speculated on here about the likelihood of Dignitas literally murdering their clients, having found what you consider to be evidence of the failure of that method.

I strongly suspect you'll be on your deathbed as a very old man and your most sincere regret will be that you wasted so many years researching suicide methods you were never going to use. It's understandable that people are less inclined to contribute to your in depth research when the conclusion will undoubtedly be a predictably negative one, as usual.

 

[Smilla]

@Smilla , you're on my ignore list. No offense. But there are certain group dynamics on this forum.

I considered inert gas as well, but I invested in N. The inert gas/exit bag method requires quite some investment (time, learning, effort etc). It also seemed convoluted. What is done is done. It's not about money, btw.

Back to the topic in #1.

Group dynamics? Like high school cliques?

At 39, I have zero time for such bullshit.

Ignore has been reciprocated. And you are welcome for my "help".

 

[bigj75]

I thought Nembutal was lethal enough on its own.

 

[Deleted member 4993]

Some prefer overkill :-) like myself.

 

[bigj75]

Some prefer overkill :-) like myself.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/data/avatars/m/4/4993.jpg?1548024950

 

[therhydler]

Drink N and then hang yourself, preferably over a cliff in case the rope snaps

 

[JustAboutDone]

@therhydler lol!!

 

[JustAboutDone]

@Smilla @Chinaski
I'm puzzled

If the OP has people on an ignored list does that mean they just have a half blank thread of their own posts?

:-/

 

[Deleted member 4993]

Drink N and then hang yourself, preferably over a cliff in case the rope snaps

Good thinking

 

[Chinaski]

@Smilla @Chinaski
I'm puzzled

If the OP has people on an ignored list does that mean they just have a half blank thread of their own posts?

:-/

I thought that too, just like l think "I'm putting you on the ignore list" is an absolutely pathetic thing to post, usually done as a means of getting a vitally important 'last word'. Just ignore, move on.

 

[JustAboutDone]

Just ignore, move on.

Indeed. Back to pets megathread for me :-)

 

[Deleted member 4993]

Yep @therhydler has solved the method of certainty for the OP

 

[JustAboutDone]

I did actually ask if anyone wanted to go to the Bognor Regis conference with me - but nobody accepted. Had the OP said yes they may have found the information they were hunting for.

 

[Lanternlight]

What does OP mean?

 

[therhydler]

What does OP mean?

Original post or original poster

 

[Lanternlight]

Thanks :)

 

[OfficerK]

I bet OP is wondering why nobody has responded in the last three hours.

 

[DyingToCTB]

I thought the appeal of N is its lethality? I'm in the process of getting a few bottles. Should I be concerned it won't work?

 

[OfficerK]

I thought the appeal of N is its lethality? I'm in the process of getting a few bottles. Should I be concerned it won't work?

Nembutal is generally considered to be the suicide drug. It's the preferred drug in virtually all countries where euthanasia is legalized, including Belgium, Switzerland and the US.

If you've used benzos for a longer period of time, it is supposedly possible that you've developed a tolerance. You shouldn't have anything to worry about if this doesn't apply to you.

 

[WayOut]

Nembutal is generally considered to be the suicide drug. It's the preferred drug in virtually all countries where euthanasia is legalized, including Belgium, Switzerland and the US.

If you've used benzos for a longer period of time, it is supposedly possible that you've developed a tolerance. You shouldn't have anything to worry if this doesn't apply to you.

One comment for those with concerns about cross tolerance for any reason. If you are taking a marginal dose, this may come into play. However, 12+gm is a massive od. It's literally overkill. Alcohol history or benzos will give you some tolerance to N, sure, but that's at the level that if you were taking the old fashioned therapeutic dose to help you sleep, you'd probably have to double or triple it. So 3 x 100 mg tabs instead of 1. Taking 12 gms is not like that. It WILL work. The only difference is it make take a couple of hours, rather than the usual 45 or so minutes.

 

[therhydler]

One comment for those with concerns about cross tolerance for any reason. If you are taking a marginal dose, this may come into play. However, 12+gm is a massive od. It's literally overkill. Alcohol history or benzos will give you some tolerance to N, sure, but that's at the level that if you were taking the old fashioned therapeutic dose to help you sleep, you'd probably have to double or triple it. So 3 x 100 mg tabs instead of 1. Taking 12 gms is not like that. It WILL work. The only difference is it make take a couple of hours, rather than the usual 45 or so minutes.

Thanks, this has made me a bit calmer

 

[JustAboutDone]

I bet OP is wondering why nobody has responded in the last three hours.

Lmao!!!!!