Cashewmilk

Cashewmilk

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Mar 10, 2020
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Imagine being in jail for life, I often do when I watch it on TV.
If you've already been in jail have you thought of it? I know some here would prefer to go to jail just to get away from their lives.

Or imagine you got caught for a horrible crime, like murder or something you regretted, and was taken into custody and had to go through a trial, and everyone knowing about it, and seeing your entire life fall apart, and knowing you're going to be in jail for a very long time. I used to think it was incredibly scary and insane to be in those shoes.

But then I remind myself that I would never commit a horrible crime like that...lol, I guess maybe if you do something then you kinda know you're getting what you deserve. But then what if you immediately regret doing it and then try so hard to cover it up, like a murder or a hit and run or something - I don't have sympathy for rapists and pedophiles though... and you get caught, I'm sure the guilt alone would be mortifying... hmm, do you guys ever ponder about these things?
 
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Aftex

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May 28, 2020
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I used to think about it quite a bit, mainly because I was doing things to cope that where not legal. I just spent a little over 2 months in prison so hardly the longest stretch imaginable.

Actually being in prison isn't too bad the guys I met in there where just normal people who had messed up at some point. The worst part for me was all the time alone with my thoughts, it didn't help with covid-19 so I was locked in a cell for 23 1/2 hrs a day so it really messed with my head.

I've been out a week now and I've only left my flat a handful of times and can barely be bothered to take care of myself. Just sat in my flat listening to music all day and smoking near enough non stop.
 
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Mar 7, 2020
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I will share a little of my experience with this.

I was put in prison awaiting trial for a crime that I did not commit. I was classed as a suicide risk and so put in a grim, suicide-proof cell. I was monitored 24/7 by a CCTV camera and at the first sign of anything untoward two nurses and a guard would come charging in. The living conditions were vile, the window was broken and so the cold winter air flooded in every night, and as I was a suicide risk I was not allowed normal clothes, just a thin hospital gown and a single suicide proof blanket - this is essentially thick, padded nylon with woven edges designed to prevent you from looping or tying it into a noose.

The ceiling of my cell was covered with dried faeces, mould encrusted toilet paper and blood, so much blood smeared over the walls, the floor, the ceiling, the remnants of so-called dirty protests from past prisoners poorly cleaned up. For my 'safety', I was put in solitary confinement. I was allowed out for barely half an hour a day, I spent the rest of the time sleeping or pacing in circles.

My entire life was falling apart around me. I believed I had no option but to end it. There were no ligature points, I was allowed no personal belongings with me, I was being monitored, the electricity and water to the cell had been turned off, I was stuck in what was, in essence, a stone/steel cube. Sleeping was impossible of course, you were awoken every fifteen minutes during the night with a light shone in your eyes to check that you were still 'alive'. Sleeping during the day wasn't an option either, my cell-neighbour was a paranoid schizophrenic who was convinced that I was the devil and spent most of his time banging and screaming through the wall, sounding the alarm and threatening to kill both myself and the nurses in increasingly brutal ways. You would be surprised how inventive your mind becomes when you face such grim circumstances.

The most desperate of my plans was to drown myself in the cell toilet, which happened to be the only place the CCTV didn't cover and where you would have a reasonable period of time uninterrupted. The toilet itself was horrific, a solid stone hole weathered by decades of abuse. What little water remained in the basin I can only describe as looking (and smelling) like a rotting animal corpse floating in a canal... But desperate times called for desperate measures, I had calculated there was just about enough water to ensure drowning with the aid of a Zopiclone I'd talked the doctor into prescribing me.

For various reasons, I aborted that attempt. Next, I exploited the architecture of the furniture bolted to the cell floor to wedge my head into an airtight gap. I quickly began to suffocate, assisted by the pressure of the stone forcing my shoulders up against my neck. It was barely a minute or two before the dreaded hypercapnic alarm response set in and I began to panic. I felt dizzy, but then someone pulled me out.

That doomed attempt led to an even greater level of supervision. My next thought was to obtain some illicit drugs from another prisoner and take an overdose, unfortunately, that proved trickier than I anticipated. A few more weeks past, I had largely stopped eating and was feeling the effects, pain, tiredness and deep depression.

Eventually, the supervision eased and I was transferred to another cell, this time away from cameras and with ligature points and bedsheets at my disposal. I had stayed up all night practising the correct knot and writing a short will and note to my family. I then waited until the wing had emptied and set to work partially suspending myself.

After a minute I became hot and flushed and dizzy, my survival instinct began to set in and panicking, I desperately tried to loosen the noose. I had designed for just such a scenario and loosening one part of the noose tightened another. Suddenly, I found myself in the most horrific pain. I don't know how to explain it, but there was a part of my brain that told me I was choking alive. I thrashed and squirmed violently until the room dimmed and faded out and the next thing I know I was on the floor being resuscitated.

Not long after that I was released and sent home without so much as an apology for the error of justice. The PTSD from my time in prison remains with me to this day.
 
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Aftex

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I will share a little of my experience with this.

I was put in prison awaiting trial for a crime that I did not commit. I was classed as a suicide risk and so put in a grim, suicide-proof cell. I was monitored 24/7 by a CCTV camera and at the first sign of anything untoward two nurses and a guard would come charging in. The living conditions were vile, the window was broken and so the cold winter air flooded in every night, and as I was a suicide risk I was not allowed normal clothes, just a thin hospital gown and a single suicide proof blanket - this is essentially thick, padded nylon with woven edges designed to prevent you from looping or tying it into a noose.

The ceiling of my cell was covered with dried faeces, mould encrusted toilet paper and blood, so much blood smeared over the walls, the floor, the ceiling, the remnants of so-called dirty protests from past prisoners poorly cleaned up. For my 'safety', I was put in solitary confinement. I was allowed out for barely half an hour a day, I spent the rest of the time sleeping or pacing in circles.

My entire life was falling apart around me. I believed I had no option but to end it. There were no ligature points, I was allowed no personal belongings with me, I was being monitored, the electricity and water to the cell had been turned off, I was stuck in what was, in essence, a stone/steel cube. Sleeping was impossible of course, you were awoken every fifteen minutes during the night with a light shone in your eyes to check that you were still 'alive'. Sleeping during the day wasn't an option either, my cell-neighbour was a paranoid schizophrenic who was convinced that I was the devil and spent most of his time banging and screaming through the wall, sounding the alarm and threatening to kill both myself and the nurses in increasingly brutal ways. You would be surprised how inventive your mind becomes when you face such grim circumstances.

The most desperate of my plans was to drown myself in the cell toilet, which happened to be the only place the CCTV didn't cover and where you would have a reasonable period of time uninterrupted. The toilet itself was horrific, a solid stone hole weathered by decades of abuse. What little water remained in the basin I can only describe as looking (and smelling) like a rotting animal corpse floating in a canal... But desperate times called for desperate measures, I had calculated there was just about enough water to ensure drowning with the aid of a Zopiclone I'd talked the doctor into prescribing me.

For various reasons, I aborted that attempt. Next, I exploited the architecture of the furniture bolted to the cell floor to wedge my head into an airtight gap. I quickly began to suffocate, assisted by the pressure of the stone forcing my shoulders up against my neck. It was barely a minute or two before the dreaded hypercapnic alarm response set in and I began to panic. I felt dizzy, but then someone pulled me out.

That doomed attempt led to an even greater level of supervision. My next thought was to obtain some illicit drugs from another prisoner and take an overdose, unfortunately, that proved trickier than I anticipated. A few more weeks past, I had largely stopped eating and was feeling the effects, pain, tiredness and deep depression.

Eventually, the supervision eased and I was transferred to another cell, this time away from cameras and with ligature points and bedsheets at my disposal. I had stayed up all night practising the correct knot and writing a short will and note to my family. I then waited until the wing had emptied and set to work partially suspending myself.

After a minute I became hot and flushed and dizzy, my survival instinct began to set in and panicking, I desperately tried to loosen the noose. I had designed for just such a scenario and loosening one part of the noose tightened another. Suddenly, I found myself in the most horrific pain. I don't know how to explain it, but there was a part of my brain that told me I was choking alive. I thrashed and squirmed violently until the room dimmed and faded out and the next thing I know I was on the floor being resuscitated.

Not long after that I was released and sent home without so much as an apology for the error of justice. The PTSD from my time in prison remains with me to this day.

Wow that must have been horrific for you, I was only on suicide watch when I was in custody and the cell was similar to what you described as well as the sleep deprivation with the constant checks.

I'm not sure how but when I got to the prison I was no longer on suicide watch but after reading your account I don't think I could have put up with it for long.
 
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do you guys ever ponder about these things?
Yes occasionally. If I didn´t suffer from physical problems there wouldn´t be many downsides for me in jail because scandinavian jails are about rehabilitation and the maximum security prison cells, kitchen etc. looks more modern than where I live now.

So as said Scandinavian prisons are for rehabilitation so the punishment is robbing you from your freedom while being "rehabilitated" but the only freedom I would lose is my walks and be able to enjoy nature which is a big one since I love nature.

But if I didn´t have my physical problems it wouldn´t change much, people who go to jail like gang members or murderers have a life they go out in the world on shopping, watching movies in the cinema, go to concerts or raves, travel around the world and party I literally do none of these things and I have no friends and go the same two routes to get groceries so I would barely lose any freedom I might even make friends and would be able to open up about my mental problems to a psychiatrist, there are free dental care etc.

Other downsides is it would be very hard to ctb in prison compared to all the resources we have available now and I am very anarchistic minded so I hate the government so them "arresting" me is just an euphemism for legalized kidnapping the same for imprisoning people against their will.
 
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Jail is actually the reason I've been thinking about ctb, its my biggest fear in life so I'd rather be dead than ever going to any jail or prison. You see I live in in a third world country where jail is not only taking away your freedom, it's hell. They put like 40+ guys in a single cell, there's no food, no water, anything, it's easy to get diseases like tuberculosis or simply get murdered by one of the other inmates in a violent way for no reason, I'm extremely anxious and I simply wouldn't get through a single day in a place like that. That said I have never done anything Illegal in my life but for some reason I have a severe phobia or fear of the justice. maybe I'm crazy, who knows? truth is, I have obsessive thoughts about it all the time, it gets triggered by things that happen in my everyday life, I keep thinking and imagining different scenarios where I'm being accused of stuff and then sent to jail. Does anyone else have this unreasonable fear or obsession? I've researched about it but it doesn't seem to be really a common thing.
 
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Jail is actually the reason I've been thinking about ctb, its my biggest fear in life so I'd rather be dead than ever going to any jail or prison. You see I live in in a third world country where jail is not only taking away your freedom, it's hell. They put like 40+ guys in a single cell, there's no food, no water, anything, it's easy to get diseases like tuberculosis or simply get murdered by one of the other inmates in a violent way for no reason, I'm extremely anxious and I simply wouldn't get through a single day in a place like that. That said I have never done anything Illegal in my life but for some reason I have a severe phobia or fear of the justice. maybe I'm crazy, who knows? truth is, I have obsessive thoughts about it all the time, it gets triggered by things that happen in my everyday life, I keep thinking and imagining different scenarios where I'm being accused of stuff and then sent to jail. Does anyone else have this unreasonable fear or obsession? I've researched about it but it doesn't seem to be really a common thing.
Yes. This is a fear of mine as well. I already feel like a prisoner in this world. I was in the military, but I enjoyed that, but during war time, I always had this fear that I would get shot in the leg on a convoy and potentially end up paralyzed! Or I could be kidnapped by some muslims and end up their sex-slave.....or something horrible like that! SO, when i was in the middle east, i would sometimes see what medications I could get my hands on, and carry this concoction of pills on me...I mean my rifle would be confiscated by that point, so clearly blowing my head off would not have been an option....I've wanted to die since i was six, but had unsuccessful attempts.....but now since working in hospice and pallitive care for the past nine years, I have seen natural death is a slow-ass process! And now I am really afraid to get old...something fears me about medical personal touching me....( Maybe cuz of my upbringing and having many medical personalle in my family, and my siblings poking at me with my many childhood fevers..... Sure I was the gov't's bitch in the milittary, but it was better for me than seeing all the slow suffering death in my current field of medical (which i just quit my job of 9 years yesterday).......,...But actual prison, prison.- I'm with you, terrified of that!....I am afraid of getting old actually too and ending up in a nursing facilities to me are like a form of a prison. I surely want to CBT before i get old, to where I am at the mercy of the system.
 
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Alec

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Apr 22, 2019
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I will share a little of my experience with this.

I was put in prison awaiting trial for a crime that I did not commit. I was classed as a suicide risk and so put in a grim, suicide-proof cell. I was monitored 24/7 by a CCTV camera and at the first sign of anything untoward two nurses and a guard would come charging in. The living conditions were vile, the window was broken and so the cold winter air flooded in every night, and as I was a suicide risk I was not allowed normal clothes, just a thin hospital gown and a single suicide proof blanket - this is essentially thick, padded nylon with woven edges designed to prevent you from looping or tying it into a noose.

The ceiling of my cell was covered with dried faeces, mould encrusted toilet paper and blood, so much blood smeared over the walls, the floor, the ceiling, the remnants of so-called dirty protests from past prisoners poorly cleaned up. For my 'safety', I was put in solitary confinement. I was allowed out for barely half an hour a day, I spent the rest of the time sleeping or pacing in circles.

My entire life was falling apart around me. I believed I had no option but to end it. There were no ligature points, I was allowed no personal belongings with me, I was being monitored, the electricity and water to the cell had been turned off, I was stuck in what was, in essence, a stone/steel cube. Sleeping was impossible of course, you were awoken every fifteen minutes during the night with a light shone in your eyes to check that you were still 'alive'. Sleeping during the day wasn't an option either, my cell-neighbour was a paranoid schizophrenic who was convinced that I was the devil and spent most of his time banging and screaming through the wall, sounding the alarm and threatening to kill both myself and the nurses in increasingly brutal ways. You would be surprised how inventive your mind becomes when you face such grim circumstances.

The most desperate of my plans was to drown myself in the cell toilet, which happened to be the only place the CCTV didn't cover and where you would have a reasonable period of time uninterrupted. The toilet itself was horrific, a solid stone hole weathered by decades of abuse. What little water remained in the basin I can only describe as looking (and smelling) like a rotting animal corpse floating in a canal... But desperate times called for desperate measures, I had calculated there was just about enough water to ensure drowning with the aid of a Zopiclone I'd talked the doctor into prescribing me.

For various reasons, I aborted that attempt. Next, I exploited the architecture of the furniture bolted to the cell floor to wedge my head into an airtight gap. I quickly began to suffocate, assisted by the pressure of the stone forcing my shoulders up against my neck. It was barely a minute or two before the dreaded hypercapnic alarm response set in and I began to panic. I felt dizzy, but then someone pulled me out.

That doomed attempt led to an even greater level of supervision. My next thought was to obtain some illicit drugs from another prisoner and take an overdose, unfortunately, that proved trickier than I anticipated. A few more weeks past, I had largely stopped eating and was feeling the effects, pain, tiredness and deep depression.

Eventually, the supervision eased and I was transferred to another cell, this time away from cameras and with ligature points and bedsheets at my disposal. I had stayed up all night practising the correct knot and writing a short will and note to my family. I then waited until the wing had emptied and set to work partially suspending myself.

After a minute I became hot and flushed and dizzy, my survival instinct began to set in and panicking, I desperately tried to loosen the noose. I had designed for just such a scenario and loosening one part of the noose tightened another. Suddenly, I found myself in the most horrific pain. I don't know how to explain it, but there was a part of my brain that told me I was choking alive. I thrashed and squirmed violently until the room dimmed and faded out and the next thing I know I was on the floor being resuscitated.

Not long after that I was released and sent home without so much as an apology for the error of justice. The PTSD from my time in prison remains with me to this day.
Holly he'll, the absolute hell!!! I have no idea how you went through it!! I'm so SO SO sorry all of it happened to you!!! You didn't deserve it! And they didn't even apologize, god sometimes humanity is such a bag of shit!!!
I love you and I'm sorry!

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Good4Nothing

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I will kill myself before I ever go to prison.
 
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SpottedPanda

SpottedPanda

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Jul 24, 2019
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I think about prison all the time. I've never been. The closest thing I've experienced in psychiatric wards. My absent father was in prison. Maybe I grew up thinking it was in my destiny, and never shook that feeling. Rarely has anyone ever attacked me, but if they did I always imagined I'd accidentally go too far in defending myself.

I worry about prison every other day at least. It's like an unspoken obsession. I don't actively break the law, so logic tells me it's somewhat of an irrational fear. I fantasise about hurting those who have wronged me, in the midst of all manner of grandiose fantasies, but I've hardly been in any fights, ever, let alone seriously hurt anyone.

I can only imagine prison is made worse by suicide limitations, and a lack of feeling in control. I can only imagine what it's like, and do. I hope I never have to find out. I hope I'm gone before long, then worries of all kinds will be nonexistent.
 
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Cashewmilk

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Mar 10, 2020
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I will share a little of my experience with this.

I was put in prison awaiting trial for a crime that I did not commit. I was classed as a suicide risk and so put in a grim, suicide-proof cell. I was monitored 24/7 by a CCTV camera and at the first sign of anything untoward two nurses and a guard would come charging in. The living conditions were vile, the window was broken and so the cold winter air flooded in every night, and as I was a suicide risk I was not allowed normal clothes, just a thin hospital gown and a single suicide proof blanket - this is essentially thick, padded nylon with woven edges designed to prevent you from looping or tying it into a noose.

The ceiling of my cell was covered with dried faeces, mould encrusted toilet paper and blood, so much blood smeared over the walls, the floor, the ceiling, the remnants of so-called dirty protests from past prisoners poorly cleaned up. For my 'safety', I was put in solitary confinement. I was allowed out for barely half an hour a day, I spent the rest of the time sleeping or pacing in circles.

My entire life was falling apart around me. I believed I had no option but to end it. There were no ligature points, I was allowed no personal belongings with me, I was being monitored, the electricity and water to the cell had been turned off, I was stuck in what was, in essence, a stone/steel cube. Sleeping was impossible of course, you were awoken every fifteen minutes during the night with a light shone in your eyes to check that you were still 'alive'. Sleeping during the day wasn't an option either, my cell-neighbour was a paranoid schizophrenic who was convinced that I was the devil and spent most of his time banging and screaming through the wall, sounding the alarm and threatening to kill both myself and the nurses in increasingly brutal ways. You would be surprised how inventive your mind becomes when you face such grim circumstances.

The most desperate of my plans was to drown myself in the cell toilet, which happened to be the only place the CCTV didn't cover and where you would have a reasonable period of time uninterrupted. The toilet itself was horrific, a solid stone hole weathered by decades of abuse. What little water remained in the basin I can only describe as looking (and smelling) like a rotting animal corpse floating in a canal... But desperate times called for desperate measures, I had calculated there was just about enough water to ensure drowning with the aid of a Zopiclone I'd talked the doctor into prescribing me.

For various reasons, I aborted that attempt. Next, I exploited the architecture of the furniture bolted to the cell floor to wedge my head into an airtight gap. I quickly began to suffocate, assisted by the pressure of the stone forcing my shoulders up against my neck. It was barely a minute or two before the dreaded hypercapnic alarm response set in and I began to panic. I felt dizzy, but then someone pulled me out.

That doomed attempt led to an even greater level of supervision. My next thought was to obtain some illicit drugs from another prisoner and take an overdose, unfortunately, that proved trickier than I anticipated. A few more weeks past, I had largely stopped eating and was feeling the effects, pain, tiredness and deep depression.

Eventually, the supervision eased and I was transferred to another cell, this time away from cameras and with ligature points and bedsheets at my disposal. I had stayed up all night practising the correct knot and writing a short will and note to my family. I then waited until the wing had emptied and set to work partially suspending myself.

After a minute I became hot and flushed and dizzy, my survival instinct began to set in and panicking, I desperately tried to loosen the noose. I had designed for just such a scenario and loosening one part of the noose tightened another. Suddenly, I found myself in the most horrific pain. I don't know how to explain it, but there was a part of my brain that told me I was choking alive. I thrashed and squirmed violently until the room dimmed and faded out and the next thing I know I was on the floor being resuscitated.

Not long after that I was released and sent home without so much as an apology for the error of justice. The PTSD from my time in prison remains with me to this day.
Oh my god! Thank you so much for sharing your story. I can't even imagine, these types of things just prove how wrong everything is. It just shows that society has no right to feel proud of themselves, people should be ashamed of themselves. It's completely counterintuitive, it just makes no sense, putting people in horrible conditions and expecting them to not suicide! For fuck sakes.
Jail is actually the reason I've been thinking about ctb, its my biggest fear in life so I'd rather be dead than ever going to any jail or prison. You see I live in in a third world country where jail is not only taking away your freedom, it's hell. They put like 40+ guys in a single cell, there's no food, no water, anything, it's easy to get diseases like tuberculosis or simply get murdered by one of the other inmates in a violent way for no reason, I'm extremely anxious and I simply wouldn't get through a single day in a place like that. That said I have never done anything Illegal in my life but for some reason I have a severe phobia or fear of the justice. maybe I'm crazy, who knows? truth is, I have obsessive thoughts about it all the time, it gets triggered by things that happen in my everyday life, I keep thinking and imagining different scenarios where I'm being accused of stuff and then sent to jail. Does anyone else have this unreasonable fear or obsession? I've researched about it but it doesn't seem to be really a common thing.

If you live in a country like that chances are they are extremely corrupt, so no its not an irrational fear, I bet innocent people end up in trouble all the time... except innocent people also get punished in western countries too.

My biggest fear is going to prison and going through heroin withdrawal, ugh that's why I'm never leaving Canada and I hope nothing monumental happens like war etc. Not even leaving for vacation or anything, look what happened with covid people ended up stranded in 3rd world vacation spots! I'm extremely lucky and I'm staying put lol, at least if I go to a local prison I can still get my methadone.. jeeze, just the fact that these horrible things can happen is enough to make me want to ctb
 
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TimeToBiteTheDust

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If I go to jail I'll ctb same way as Epstein's.