I'm tired of pro-lifers calling me selfish for wanting to Ctb...

[Catching_the_bus]

I'm tired of hearing about how "selfish" I am... You know what's ACTUALLY selfish? Forcing someone to exist in a world that has done nothing but destroy and tear them apart just because YOU don't want them to Ctb... I wake up everyday knowing that I truly don't belong here and that I don't want to be here anymore... I wake up everyday with a mind that's waging war on me and a family who only wants me to stay alive for their own selfish needs yet they have the audacity to call ME selfish... I'm not selfish... I'm just tired of existing in a world that doesn't give a shit about me... A world that has done nothing but use and abuse me until I have nothing left and then I become the "selfish" one for not wanting to deal with the pain of existing anymore... This world has nothing to offer me.. this world has taken everything from me and now the very people who are supposed to love me and support me are trying to prevent me from ending my pain... I'm tired of people saying that I just have to be patient and things will get better... When!?!? Because I have been waiting for 13 years and I'm tired of waiting.... Sorry if this post doesn't make sense I'm just so upset right now and I feel like this is the only community that will understand me....

 

[SilentSadness]

Suicide is not selfish; your life never belonged to others so it's not cruel to take it away. It definitely seems like a lazy justification for forcing us to experience pain every day. I strongly doubt that the people who tell depressed or suicidal people that they are selfish would say the same to someone in a wheelchair or missing limbs because they only care about problems they can see. In fact, there is no rational reason to stay here in this existence and getting attached is the cause of all problems. It certainly feels like this is the only community where suicide is even discussed let alone seen as a choice; this society is surrounded in toxic positivity and delusions. I hope that you feel loved soon and that you find peace.

 

[Catching_the_bus]

Suicide is not selfish; your life never belonged to others so it's not cruel to take it away. It definitely seems like a lazy justification for forcing us to experience pain every day. I strongly doubt that the people who tell depressed or suicidal people that they are selfish would say the same to someone in a wheelchair or missing limbs because they only care about problems they can see. In fact, there is no rational reason to stay here in this existence and getting attached is the cause of all problems. It certainly feels like this is the only community where suicide is even discussed let alone seen as a choice; this society is surrounded in toxic positivity and delusions. I hope that you feel loved soon and that you find peace.

You have no idea how good it feels to have someone understand where I'm coming from! You are absolutely right the only person our lives belong to is ourselves! After all we all have to die someday right? If my existence and my reality is unbearable then there should be no problem with me speeding up the process of my ultimate demise... I don't understand society... They prevent us from Ctb and then complain about us "putting stress on the system"... I never asked for help.. it has always been forced on me yet I'm still the bad guy in the eyes of society

 

[Shy_Shay]

Been writing off as a "selfish person" is the normal reaction of someone who is actually happy existing in this fuck up world, i don't like being alive and i don't like this unhappy existence i have, but i understand where they come from, but denying someone wishes to be at peace is a selfish action just the same. I won't condem you for wishing this but don't hate them, for they are fools living in a illusion of happy life that will never understand your pain.

 

[Catching_the_bus]

Been writing off as a "selfish person" is the normal reaction of someone who is actually happy existing in this fuck up world, i don't like being alive and i don't like this unhappy existence i have, but i understand where they come from, but denying someone wishes to be at peace is a selfish action just the same. I won't condem you for wishing this but don't hate them, for they are fools living in a illusion of happy life that will never understand your pain.

That was very well said... I hold no hate for them and part of me is thankful that the ones I love don't have to feel the way I do... Sometimes ignorance is truly bliss... But I have seen the world in ways that they never have and probably never will... I guess I just wish they could understand me and where I am coming from so that when I catch the bus it won't be as painful for them

 

[Shy_Shay]

That was very well said... I hold no hate for them and part of me is thankful that the ones I love don't have to feel the way I do... Sometimes ignorance is truly bliss... But I have seen the world in ways that they never have and probably never will... I guess I just wish they could understand me and where I am coming from so that when I catch the bus it won't be as painful for them

This place of sharing open my eyes for the pain of others that i didn't know it existed, there are many people here that gave up or don't have the courage to "catch the bus" as you said and i am certainly not best to understand your pain because mine seems so little compare to yours, but i hope you find peace in this last adventure you will have and if you don't in the end know that are many here that might share your burden just like you are sharing with us right now.

 

[yive]

it's not our problem that "other people will suffer!1111!11!", cause we didn't ask to be born, didn't sign any papers, didn't give our consent etc.. it's the parents' fault that they gave birth to a child and he had to kill himself afterwards. they chose to have a child in such an ugly and cruel world, and the fact that they will suffer is their fault and their problems. the suicidal person has no responsibility or obligation to society. that's what normies don't understand. you think to impose suffering without consent = ok? then to leave life, commit suicide without explaining the reasons, without getting "approval" from the "commission of experts" = more than ok as well. so tired of this fucked up irrational, delusional society treating us like criminals. it's all about enslavement anyway

 

[Caoine01]

Suicide is not selfish

Suicide is not selfish

A pseudonym for selfishness is SELF-LOVE. This is anchored in every human being. The respect towards the person should always be so great that he is not denied the right to love himself. Choosing the CTB is a form of practicing it.

 

[TAW122]

I'm sorry to hear that and most of us here, pro-choicers also face similar problems too... We are definitely tired of hearing the drivel, the platitudes, and the false promises (and hope) that pro-lifers like to parrot off. I personally don't even broach such a subject with them IRL because there nothing beneficial for me and has the potential to make matters worse, more complicated. At best, it doesn't change their mind, creates an awkward interaction, and wastes time; but the worst, setting off red flags, people start to become more suspicious and question your actions and thoughts, which then opens up the risk of intervention (at their own desire). I agree with you that it is wrong for pro-lifers to push their values on us and this is why our safe space here on SaSu is invaluable not only for method discussion (not encouragement or incitement to CTB nor live), a place to vent and be heard (barring some of the trolls which we can just ignore), and just to have a community of similar thinking individuals who support a common cause (the right to a dignified and peaceful exit on one's own terms).

 

[FuneralCry]

It's best to just take no notice of people like that, it's disgusting to guilt trip suicidal people, the fact is that continuing to exist could never be an obligation no matter what and nobody should have to suffer for a second longer than they wish to. To want to force others to stay here is extreme cruelty, and anyway it's like they forget that we are all just destined to die anyway. Losing people is just a part of life and people should just accept that fact.