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DattMav48

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Dec 5, 2019
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Hey,

i'm currently considering ctb tomorrow morning, the only thing I can think about is my 4yr old daughter.

her mum and I have split a few weeks back now, and things are just starting to get nasty.

I don't want to be around anymore, but I don't know what to do.
 
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Jean4

Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
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We aren't here to tell you what to do. However, in my opinion, if you are ready, nothing will stop you. Not even your daughter. The pain is greater than any love you have.
 
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Weakling666

Weakling666

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Dec 9, 2019
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If you are not entirely sure, I don't recommend ctb. Even if you have a shred of doubt you should attempt to cling onto it.

however if you seriously see no light at the end of the tunnel, ctb is a viable option. You will have to get over the thought of your daughter growing up without a father.
 
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fightingsioux

fightingsioux

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Oct 22, 2019
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Hey,

i'm currently considering ctb tomorrow morning, the only thing I can think about is my 4yr old daughter.

her mum and I have split a few weeks back now, and things are just starting to get nasty.

I don't want to be around anymore, but I don't know what to do.
You're thinking about your little girl for a reason. Listen to that inner voice carefully.

Don't do anything hasty. Get through tonight, you can do it.

Many good folks here to talk with.

You're an adult. If after careful consideration, over time, you decide that CTB is the answer, that's your right. But no need to rush.

One good thing about suicide is that it doesn't spoil, there is no shelf life or expiration date, you can tuck it away for safekeeping, it will always be there if and when you need it.
 
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Taki

Taki

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Jul 30, 2019
319
Hey,

i'm currently considering ctb tomorrow morning, the only thing I can think about is my 4yr old daughter.

her mum and I have split a few weeks back now, and things are just starting to get nasty.

I don't want to be around anymore, but I don't know what to do.
If you've just split you're probably in a crisis. Things may feel shit but they're likely to turn around.

Apologies to others here, but I'm going to tell you what to do. Don't kill yourself. Call a friend or go to a hospital. Or both.
 
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NeCkDeEp

NeCkDeEp

Experienced
Nov 30, 2019
285
'I don't know what to do' sounds like you are not completely sure whether you want to ctb or not.
Please have a longer think about this as ctb is permanent, the pain you might be going through can be temporary.
If you feel like that things won't get better then please do whatever you feel like is the best but please think longer about your decision until you are sure.
 
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Taki

Taki

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Jul 30, 2019
319
If you are not entirely sure, I don't recommend ctb. Even if you have a shred of doubt you should attempt to cling onto it.

however if you seriously see no light at the end of the tunnel, ctb is a viable option. You will have to get over the thought of your daughter growing up without a father.
This is someone in a crisis. Killing himself is not a viable option.
 
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Weakling666

Weakling666

Night Breed
Dec 9, 2019
61
This is someone in a crisis. Killing himself is not a viable option.
ctb will always be viable and readily available. I already displayed that i don't recommend it, just stating the obvious as he is here for a reason.
 
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fightingsioux

fightingsioux

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Oct 22, 2019
357
If you've just split you're probably in a crisis. Things may feel shit but they're likely to turn around.

Apologies to others here, but I'm going to tell you what to do. Don't kill yourself. Call a friend or go to a hospital. Or both.
You shouldn't have to apologize to anyone for that compassionate, 100% correct reply.

Entirely IMHO, the overwhelming majority of posters on this forum agree with you. These are people that are strongly pro-choice, but recognize that in some cases a bit of loving caution is in order. I think that many are afraid of being attacked as "evil right-to-lifers", when all they're doing is gently telling someone in crisis to think about it.
 
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Ark

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Oct 18, 2019
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Please do not CTB unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure it is the only answer. I am not a pro lifer, heck I just got the means to my CTB. But, I spent months AFTER I got my medical diagnosis deciding if CTB was my only way to peace. I considered every single possibility concerning my physical, emotional, and mental health to see if there was any way at all to at least bring any of the pain down to a level I could live with. Only after months of logical consideration did I conclude I will never make any of it better. I have a younger daughter also, I would do anything to make my life liveable for her.

I will support you no matter what you decide but please make sure of your decision before you act on it.
 
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Final Escape

I’ve been here too long
Jul 8, 2018
4,348
Hey,

i'm currently considering ctb tomorrow morning, the only thing I can think about is my 4yr old daughter.

her mum and I have split a few weeks back now, and things are just starting to get nasty.

I don't want to be around anymore, but I don't know what to do.
I hope u aren't doing it over this breakup and chaos. You need to find a support group for men because u will need it. Please don't do it over this though. Hopefully your ex is not a woman with cluster B personality disorder.
 
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Taki

Taki

Specialist
Jul 30, 2019
319
Hey,

i'm currently considering ctb tomorrow morning, the only thing I can think about is my 4yr old daughter.

her mum and I have split a few weeks back now, and things are just starting to get nasty.

I don't want to be around anymore, but I don't know what to do.
Anyway, back to you.... can you get to a hospital?
 
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Asta

Asta

Specialist
Jun 7, 2019
318
Why recommend a hospital? In my limited experience I once made the mistake of talking about exiting and one of the nurses went ballistic and talked to a doctor about me. That was after another nurse ratted me out. Fortunately, he had more sense and ignored her. Close call and never again!
 
Jean4

Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
7,557
You shouldn't have to apologize to anyone for that compassionate, 100% correct reply.

Entirely IMHO, the overwhelming majority of posters on this forum agree with you. These are people that are strongly pro-choice, but recognize that in some cases a bit of loving caution is in order. I think that many are afraid of being attacked as "evil right-to-lifers", when all they're doing is gently telling someone in crisis to think about it.
I most certainly am not pro life. Hell. I watched Stan CTB and I didn't stop him.

However you are correct. I have a problem with someone who didn't buy the right pair of jeans and wants to CTB. Or, if someone is In crisis and in that crisis state looks like they are making a hasty decision (This coming from a person who has a history of impulsive CTB attempts.)

Am I pro life? No. Am I honest and realistic? Yes. I will also speak my mind being a New Yorker.

That being said, I am inconsequential and a person is going to do what they are going to do in the long run.
 
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Taki

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Jul 30, 2019
319
Why recommend a hospital? In my limited experience I once made the mistake of talking about exiting and one of the nurses went ballistic and talked to a doctor about me. That was after another nurse ratted me out. Fortunately, he had more sense and ignored her. Close call and never again!
I hear you. Sadly it's still the best option For most people. Depending on where the poster lives, he may not have tons of options.
 
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Jean4

Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
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I hear you. Sadly it's still the best option For most people. Depending on where the poster lives, he may not have tons of options.
And sometimes it is necessary. A change of scenery and a place to think with no responsibilities.
 
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Asta

Asta

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Jun 7, 2019
318
How long could they keep someone and would it be against his will? If they don't have medicare the cost could be outrageous.
 
fightingsioux

fightingsioux

Specialist
Oct 22, 2019
357
How long could they keep someone and would it be against his will? If they don't have medicare the cost could be outrageous.
Asta, that brings up an interesting question: if you were held against your will, would you be responsible for the cost?
 
Taki

Taki

Specialist
Jul 30, 2019
319
How long could they keep someone and would it be against his will? If they don't have medicare the cost could be outrageous.
Going to a hospital—and I'm saying this to the poster too—does NOT automatically mean being forcibly admitted. In fact that is increasingly rare. Most likely someone would talk to him and ask him to hang around for a while.
 
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Jean4

Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
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Asta, that brings up an interesting question: if you were held against your will, would you be responsible for the cost?
Depending on the country, if a doctor says it is necessary and you are a danger to yourself and others and want to leave, you would need to go to court. Yes. You are responsible for the costs.
 
Asta

Asta

Specialist
Jun 7, 2019
318
I've seen posts recently where people said that not only were they forcibly held, but expected to pay as well. Every hospital is no doubt different, but I certainly wouldn't take the chance around here where the folks on the religious right, namely the catholic-run Mercy Medical Centers, seem to own all the hospitals in this state.
 
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XoXoNae

Trying to understand
Dec 5, 2019
56
If you are not entirely sure, I don't recommend ctb. Even if you have a shred of doubt you should attempt to cling onto it.

however if you seriously see no light at the end of the tunnel, ctb is a viable option. You will have to get over the thought of your daughter growing up without a father.
CTB is never an option In my mind. When you're at the end of the road there is only one way to go and the only thing that can bring you back IS LOVE. Love is above all things. Isn't that what most of us really want and feel we are lacking. The ONLY love that is more pure than Gods Love is the innocent and pure love of a 4yr old girl. When she finds out that she's not worth living for, she will stop being worth it to herself. If that is something you can die with then you are definitely ready. If u hesitated to answer then you're not. I hope you find the peace of mind you are looking for no matter what you choose and my inbox is always available if you need to talk.
 
Jean4

Jean4

Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
Apr 28, 2019
7,557
CTB is never an option In my mind. When you're at the end of the road there is only one way to go and the only thing that can bring you back IS LOVE. Love is above all things. Isn't that what most of us really want and feel we are lacking. The ONLY love that is more pure than Gods Love is the innocent and pure love of a 4yr old girl. When she finds out that she's not worth living for, she will stop being worth it to herself. If that is something you can die with then you are definitely ready. If u hesitated to answer then you're not. I hope you find the peace of mind you are looking for no matter what you choose and my inbox is always available if you need to talk.
I apologize but I disagree. Someone who loved me CTB 3 days ago. His pain was greater than our love... and I loved him enough to let him go. ;)
 
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Taki

Taki

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Jul 30, 2019
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CTB is never an option In my mind. When you're at the end of the road there is only one way to go and the only thing that can bring you back IS LOVE. Love is above all things. Isn't that what most of us really want and feel we are lacking. The ONLY love that is more pure than Gods Love is the innocent and pure love of a 4yr old girl. When she finds out that she's not worth living for, she will stop being worth it to herself. If that is something you can die with then you are definitely ready. If u hesitated to answer then you're not. I hope you find the peace of mind you are looking for no matter what you choose and my inbox is always available if you need to talk.
Those are manipulative and unfair comments. You put words in his mouth about his daughter, then dare to offer your support when you clearly have terrible listening skills.

The people on this forum have enough jackasses to deal with in the real world. Delete your account.
Hey,

i'm currently considering ctb tomorrow morning, the only thing I can think about is my 4yr old daughter.

her mum and I have split a few weeks back now, and things are just starting to get nasty.

I don't want to be around anymore, but I don't know what to do.
Anyway....how are you? Give us an update. Hope to hear from you
 
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Weakling666

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Dec 9, 2019
61
CTB is never an option In my mind. When you're at the end of the road there is only one way to go and the only thing that can bring you back IS LOVE. Love is above all things. Isn't that what most of us really want and feel we are lacking. The ONLY love that is more pure than Gods Love is the innocent and pure love of a 4yr old girl. When she finds out that she's not worth living for, she will stop being worth it to herself. If that is something you can die with then you are definitely ready. If u hesitated to answer then you're not. I hope you find the peace of mind you are looking for no matter what you choose and my inbox is always available if you need to talk.
why are you even here
 
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sleepy dog

Wizard
Sep 13, 2019
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Hey,

i'm currently considering ctb tomorrow morning, the only thing I can think about is my 4yr old daughter.

her mum and I have split a few weeks back now, and things are just starting to get nasty.

I don't want to be around anymore, but I don't know what to do.

Do not listen to the uninformed tell you to go to a hospital, or tell a friend. Don't tell anybody. You would be locked up and forced to use psych drugs, which destroy the human brain, and cause suicide. It would also be used against you by your ex, who seems to have caused all of the suffering.
 
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