memataporfavor

memataporfavor

( つ・o・)つ still ill ╮|。>ー<。|╭
Apr 6, 2019
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I can be very cruel sometimes and enjoy that. Since I was a child, I remember humiliating some of my friends on purpose and enjoying that. I remember feeling guilty afterwards, like I feel till today, but I know sometimes I enjoy being evil and wishing people bad. Does anyone else hates themself/wants to ctb bc of this selfconsciousness of being despicable?
(sorry for any grammar mistakes, eng is not my 1st language)
 
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Let'sgetoutofHERE

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I'm not cruel or sadistic, like I don't get pleasure out of hurting people, but I do kind of have too little empathy sometimes so I can definitely relate. Yes, I would say this feelinh of guilt plays a huge part in me wanting to CTB. I would say however that becoming aware of your own faults and shortcomings is the first step towards being a better person.
 
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goldenrods

goldenrods

your angel
Dec 27, 2019
84
i hurt people accidentally. it's part of a big reason i hate myself & want to ctb.
 
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imagineit

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Your guilt is a sign that you know your behavior is wrong. Without knowing what you did as a child it's hard to say, and it sounds like you moderate your behavior presently, or is that too strong? I think, as a casual observer, if this is the reason to end your own life maybe you can correct this behavior. Do you or have you ever done some form of therapy? Behavior therapy or something.

When I look back on my childhood I recognize I could be cruel, but it was group stuff. I know I am not a cruel person. I think I recognized that early on, like yourself. Our social environments may have been different, obviously. Things to consider.
 
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PartingGlass

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Dec 26, 2019
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I treated people really bad in the past and I hate myself for it. I will never forgive myself, even though they already forgave me.
 
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TheEndof

TheEndof

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Dec 31, 2019
146
I seem to harm those I love the most. I've done a lot of damage to not only myself but others in life. Partly why I want to ctb. I sometimes don't know how else to say I'm sorry.
 
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HereToday

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Dec 27, 2019
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I somewhat relate. I treat people amazingly until they hurt or betray me... Then I'm so cruel, especially with my words. I say the most terrible things, and feel so guilty afterwards. It most likely comes from my abusive childhood, as I'm using to seeing conflict being 'resolved' with screaming matches and violence.
I also hate myself for this and wonder if I'm evil sometimes
 
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memataporfavor

memataporfavor

( つ・o・)つ still ill ╮|。>ー<。|╭
Apr 6, 2019
65
I'm not cruel or sadistic, like I don't get pleasure out of hurting people, but I do kind of have too little empathy sometimes so I can definitely relate. Yes, I would say this feelinh of guilt plays a huge part in me wanting to CTB. I would say however that becoming aware of your own faults and shortcomings is the first step towards being a better person.
i do have lots of empathy and try to be a good person most of the time but sometimes i enjoy hurting people for fun and i dont know why
Your guilt is a sign that you know your behavior is wrong. Without knowing what you did as a child it's hard to say, and it sounds like you moderate your behavior presently, or is that too strong? I think, as a casual observer, if this is the reason to end your own life maybe you can correct this behavior. Do you or have you ever done some form of therapy? Behavior therapy or something.

When I look back on my childhood I recognize I could be cruel, but it was group stuff. I know I am not a cruel person. I think I recognized that early on, like yourself. Our social environments may have been different, obviously. Things to consider.
yes i do therapy and this has never been a question in it. idk why... i dont like to talk abt my feelings there and i know thats a waste of money but its just hard for me...??
and ive never done any group stuff... ive never been a bully or something. ive actually always hated bullys and those are the ones i tend to be the most cruel with. but sometimes i enjoy being cruel to the ones i love. i have terrible thoughts of abusing them verbally and sometimes it comes out. I dont understand why I am loved. It makes no sense to me. It makes me sick to see how blind ppl around me are
 
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Let'sgetoutofHERE

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i do have lots of empathy and try to be a good person most of the time but sometimes i enjoy hurting people for fun and i dont know why

yes i do therapy and this has never been a question in it. idk why... i dont like to talk abt my feelings there and i know thats a waste of money but its just hard for me...??
and ive never done any group stuff... ive never been a bully or something. ive actually always hated bullys and those are the ones i tend to be the most cruel with. but sometimes i enjoy being cruel to the ones i love. i have terrible thoughts of abusing them verbally and sometimes it comes out. I dont understand why I am loved. It makes no sense to me. It makes me sick to see how blind ppl around me are

Hmm. Maybe you have feelings of anger, aggression,... sometimes that you're not allowed to show/ that you don't allow yourself to show?
 
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memataporfavor

memataporfavor

( つ・o・)つ still ill ╮|。>ー<。|╭
Apr 6, 2019
65
Hmm. Maybe you have feelings of anger, aggression,... sometimes that you're not allowed to show/ that you don't allow yourself to show?
i actually show'em too much... I have border and take 2 mood stabilizers for my "anger problems"... those are also a big focus on my therapy... the meds are a HUGE help, and yet I still have a lot of anger inside me... and i have no idea where does it come from
 
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Despondent

Despondent

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Dec 20, 2019
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I would never humiliate people to get pleasure. Not even on my worst enemy. I would make it clear to them that I don't like them but not go as far as humiliating. I can be an apathetic person. I don't show a lot of emotions anymore (at least not as much as I used to regarding my emotions). But there are also plenty of times that I just break and I want to show people how much I love them and appreciate them when I'm alone. I'm between both I guess you can say for being empathetic and apathetic. I think this world is cruel enough already as it is. Maybe the people that are being humiliated are going through their own battle and the humiliation makes it more tough on them.
I do know what you mean about doing something and afterwards realizing that you feel guilty. Just not in this particular case. Mine is mostly for the actions that I do and how it upsets others because I'm an impulsive thinker. My actions don't by any means are done to intentionally upset the people that I love. They (my choices) just upset them because they're not always the best choices.
 
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Mizzmini45

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You sound like a highly abusive person
 
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Oct 28, 2019
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Today am I not evil, but I do wish others pain. The ones that just left me in the dust when I needed them the most. I really wish that my death hurts them a lot, but I don't think it will. I think they'll just continue on like nothing happened and that hurts even more.
 
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memataporfavor

( つ・o・)つ still ill ╮|。>ー<。|╭
Apr 6, 2019
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You sound like a highly abusive person
I know I tend to be abusive, it's the way I was taught to be. I do my best not to harm the ones I get involved with, lately I guess I've been succeding at that? I don't think ppl consider me an abusive person, I do worry a lot abt that , I question myself abt my actions all the time, but sometimes I get this need to hurt... I do my best to control it... It's bc of that that I consider myself a bad person, and don't understand why I'm loved... I don't know why I'm even complaining... I sound like a total brat... I mean, I am loved, but I'm mean and it seems like I'm unable to accept the love I'm given and that sometimes I'm unable to show others the love I feel with kindness, all I seem to put out is hate... I dont know I sound so spoiled and ugggh sorry
 
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yes i do therapy and this has never been a question in it. idk why... i dont like to talk abt my feelings there and i know thats a waste of money but its just hard for me...??
and ive never done any group stuff... ive never been a bully or something. ive actually always hated bullys and those are the ones i tend to be the most cruel with. but sometimes i enjoy being cruel to the ones i love. i have terrible thoughts of abusing them verbally and sometimes it comes out. I dont understand why I am loved. It makes no sense to me. It makes me sick to see how blind ppl around me are
You could take a proactive approach and raise this subject during a session if you trust the environment. Maybe some additional perspective could be offered. I have acted out against people I cared for in the past a way of pushing them away, I recognize that now. Said mean things, but they know it is not me. This was behavior that was difficult for me to control, which I think they recognize which is why they still express love. Maybe this is similar to you but only you know. You say people are blind to the real you, but people are smart and observant. Maybe they see you.
 
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memataporfavor

( つ・o・)つ still ill ╮|。>ー<。|╭
Apr 6, 2019
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I would never humiliate people to get pleasure. Not even on my worst enemy. I would make it clear to them that I don't like them but not go as far as humiliating. I can be an apathetic person. I don't show a lot of emotions anymore (at least not as much as I used to regarding my emotions). But there are also plenty of times that I just break and I want to show people how much I love them and appreciate them when I'm alone. I'm between both I guess you can say for being empathetic and apathetic. I think this world is cruel enough already as it is. Maybe the people that are being humiliated are going through their own battle and the humiliation makes it more tough on them.
I do know what you mean about doing something and afterwards realizing that you feel guilty. Just not in this particular case. Mine is mostly for the actions that I do and how it upsets others because I'm an impulsive thinker. My actions don't by any means are done to intentionally upset the people that I love. They (my choices) just upset them because they're not always the best choices.
you sound like a nice person. the world needs more people like you
 
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Final Escape

I’ve been here too long
Jul 8, 2018
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I can be very cruel sometimes and enjoy that. Since I was a child, I remember humiliating some of my friends on purpose and enjoying that. I remember feeling guilty afterwards, like I feel till today, but I know sometimes I enjoy being evil and wishing people bad. Does anyone else hates themself/wants to ctb bc of this selfconsciousness of being despicable?
(sorry for any grammar mistakes, eng is not my 1st language)
We all have some character flaws. It's human nature. It is good that u can see the error in your ways. Don't beat yourself up, but at least hopefully u can avoid doing that now. If u are able to apologize to these people I would. It will help u feel like u made amends so u aren't holding onto this guilt.
 
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Mizzmini45

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Dec 1, 2019
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I know I tend to be abusive, it's the way I was taught to be. I do my best not to harm the ones I get involved with, lately I guess I've been succeding at that? I don't think ppl consider me an abusive person, I do worry a lot abt that , I question myself abt my actions all the time, but sometimes I get this need to hurt... I do my best to control it... It's bc of that that I consider myself a bad person, and don't understand why I'm loved... I don't know why I'm even complaining... I sound like a total brat... I mean, I am loved, but I'm mean and it seems like I'm unable to accept the love I'm given and that sometimes I'm unable to show others the love I feel with kindness, all I seem to put out is hate... I dont know I sound so spoiled and ugggh sorry
I was also shown abuse and have been abused. but I choose love. Even when I do wrong I try to right them. Look do you but your going to be the one who loses during and in the end
 
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Dec 20, 2019
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you sound like a nice person. the world needs more people like you
Awee, thank you!!
And I think you're being too hard on yourself. It seems like you really try your best not to hurt others, even if you enjoy being cruel sometimes. We don't know what you've been through, so I think it's safe to say that no one should judge. You do feel guilty about it afterwards, so hopefully the guilt can help you to change things around instead of hurting those around you. Sending hugs ❤
I was also shown abuse and have been abused. but I choose love. Even when I do wrong I try to right them. Look do you but your going to be the one who loses during and in the end
Abuse is something that I would live with. Physically, mentally, emotionally, and verbally. I don't live with that any longer thank goodness. I as well still choose love and kindness over hatred and abuse.
 
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charlottewilts

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if it helps any, i'm rather sure every person feels this way sometimes... we are just socialised not to act upon it.
 
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Dec 9, 2019
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I can be very cruel sometimes and enjoy that. Since I was a child, I remember humiliating some of my friends on purpose and enjoying that. I remember feeling guilty afterwards, like I feel till today, but I know sometimes I enjoy being evil and wishing people bad. Does anyone else hates themself/wants to ctb bc of this selfconsciousness of being despicable?
(sorry for any grammar mistakes, eng is not my 1st language)
Maybe its just because some been abused in our childhood which we might not want to be true, or repressed anger, or wanting to feel superior and in control, could be also have to do that we subconsciously make our surrounding feel the way we feel inside.. would be also interested in knowing why some peeps are that way but wouldnt beat yourself up, its probably hardwired
 
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My friends will say that I have a big, soft heart. I love deeply and totally, I care about the people around me, I care about my animals. So I have a big heart but a diseased brain and I don't know why I do some of the things I do.
 
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memataporfavor

memataporfavor

( つ・o・)つ still ill ╮|。>ー<。|╭
Apr 6, 2019
65
Maybe its just because some been abused in our childhood which we might not want to be true, or repressed anger, or wanting to feel superior and in control, could be also have to do that we subconsciously make our surrounding feel the way we feel inside.. would be also interested in knowing why some peeps are that way but wouldnt beat yourself up, its probably hardwired
"we subconsciously make our surrounding feel the way we feel inside" man... that hit hard... makes sense ://
 
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Oct 12, 2019
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I can be very cruel sometimes and enjoy that. Since I was a child, I remember humiliating some of my friends on purpose and enjoying that. I remember feeling guilty afterwards, like I feel till today, but I know sometimes I enjoy being evil and wishing people bad. Does anyone else hates themself/wants to ctb bc of this selfconsciousness of being despicable?
(sorry for any grammar mistakes, eng is not my 1st language)
I give you a lot of credit for being so honest about this.
 
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jgm63

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Oct 28, 2019
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I can be very cruel sometimes and enjoy that. Since I was a child, I remember humiliating some of my friends on purpose and enjoying that. I remember feeling guilty afterwards, like I feel till today, but I know sometimes I enjoy being evil and wishing people bad. Does anyone else hates themself/wants to ctb bc of this selfconsciousness of being despicable?
(sorry for any grammar mistakes, eng is not my 1st language)
Note : This is just my opinion....

That's a very unhealthy way to get enjoyment. I believe your actions would cause you to be building up karma, and karma always catches up.....
The sooner you start trying to clear your karma the better. It won't be fun, but it will be even worse the longer you leave it, so best to start now...
It just requires the effort and determination to master yourself. It can be done. If you didn't give in to it you might in reality be able to break the back of it in a couple of weeks, although that might be a tough couple of weeks...
 
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Time

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Nov 10, 2019
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Thanks for sharing with us, memataporfavor. I can identify with a lot of what you said. I don't take pleasure in hurting others but there are definitely times where I do cause harm. I think that its because I've accumulated so much pain in my life that I want others to feel what I feel. I know that there's a part of me that wants the best for everyone & I've helped so many people (with quite a few being strangers) throughout my life. But it sucks that those closest to me get it the worse. I love them & I show that love in many ways but I can be hard to love because of some of the things I say & do.
 
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Damn

Damn

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Aug 27, 2018
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The fear & the loathing.
 
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Sep 30, 2019
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I'm the polar opposite, I've always been a very gentle person who cares perhaps too much about the feelings of others.

However because I'm autistic people often perceive me as being "weird" or a threat in some way.

Its hard to describe how it feels to be perceived as a monster when you know that you're really just a fluffy bunny on the inside =(

At least animals like me, animals have always liked me. I think animals are better at perceiving who is a threat and who isn't, humans are pretty bad at it.
 
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exhausted

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Oct 22, 2019
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There are a lot of people like this, but they don't admit it or it doesn't register with them because they don't ruminate. Actually, I have met plenty of people who talk about doing bad things but they don't care. Your behaviour doesn't mean you're evil, especially if you want to ctb because of it. Evil people don't feel guilt. Good people do bad things, it isn't black and white. You might enjoy feeling some agency/power in the moment, but that doesn't mean it doesn't all come crashing down. If you are raised by abusers, you are literally learning from the best, with regards to abuse. It's not even necessarily the "hurt people hurt people" trope, it is behaviour you absorbed like a sponge, it comes naturally and primally but you can unlearn it. If you did this as a child, like you said, and it went uncorrected, then it makes sense to still have this trait.

Apparently the average person has 1 homicidal thought a week, often in the context of "I could just kill my boss right now!", but then again, murderers do walk among us too. Aggression and dominance is part of human nature, you can see it everywhere. This is humanity and it's ugly sometimes, but we don't have to give into our natures. You clearly don't enjoy being this way, you're no monster. You have hurt yourself enough over this, you can find healthy outlets, or tell people that you have these traits to forewarn them. I heard of a psychopath who was open about it with his friends, who all knew that every now and then he could be an arsehole, but they were ready for it and accepted it within the context of his disorder. There are many types of people in this world, billions of them, someone will accept and understand you. You aren't evil, it's ok.
 
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I'm extremely abusive but only to the people I care for. I have physically, mentally and emotionally hurt anyone that gets close to me. My therapist seems to think it's cause by a bad childhood/ traumatic childhood. But I can't seem to kick it. I've recognized my personality problems and what not and I feel extreme guilt for the things I've done but in the moment I can't want anything except pain for someone else. This is landing me in prison soon, I'm on house arrest now which is why I plan to ctb. I relate on an entirely new level. Feel free to inbox me if you'd like
 
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