If you were Bruce Willis, would you have opted for euthanasia?

[Avril]

It's so fucking sad what happened to that talented person. Dementia is a motherfucker and I hope I don't catch that illness, with a life expectancy of 7-13 years. Living hell. I'd rather do exit bag or fly to Switzerland for euthanasia protocols right away. What are your thoughts?

 

[Bit]

I think anyone here would opt for euthanasia, since we all want it to end somehow.

Honestly, I can't imagine living with dementia. Bruce Willis is tough as hell, and his family clearly really loves him, which probably helps him want to keep living for as long as possible.

 

[Captive_Mind515]

I think anyone here would opt for euthanasia, since we all want it to end somehow.

Honestly, I can't imagine living with dementia. Bruce Willis is tough as hell, and his family clearly really loves him, which probably helps him want to keep living for as long as possible.

There will come a point with dementia, where you don't even realise you're making a choice anymore. You won't have the critical faculties to make big decisions. It's a choice you're actually making for your family/loved ones who will be tasked with your care if you think about it.

 

[Bit]

I'm guessing he probably made that decision in the early stages of the diagnosis.

Yeah, I get your point. I guess one of the worst things about degenerative diseases is becoming a "burden" on your loved ones. But they're clearly wealthy and can afford all the care in the world, so that wouldn't really be a problem for them.

 

[raybd]

Bruce Willis only played daredevils. Sad though dementia is to anyone.
I think a more tragic question is that of Schumacher of F1. An actual daredevil.
Would he wanted to live on in his condition...
Struck down barely 45.
His case tests all sorts of social and ethics boundaries.
A million-dollar baby for real.
And I say this with the conviction and experience of someone too ill but uncommonly so, to get certified by any assisted dying program in the US.

 

[Arvayn]

If I am diagnosed with a terminal disorder such as dementia, I will certainly opt for euthanasia, but I'd wait until my brain degrades to a near-inoperable level; after that, there's no more value that can be extracted from life, so it's time to go.

 

[raybd]

If I am diagnosed with a terminal disorder such as dementia, I will certainly opt for euthanasia, but I'd wait until my brain degrades to a near-inoperable level; after that, there's no more value that can be extracted from life, so it's time to go.

I am on here (and was 5 and 3 years ago) because assisted dying is not available in the US like a McD order...
My condition is not well studied enough for certification to be available...
Just so you know...
Not a straight line.

 

[Avril]

Bruce Willis only played daredevils. Sad though dementia is to anyone.
I think a more tragic question is that of Schumacher of F1. An actual daredevil.
Would he wanted to live on in his condition...
Struck down barely 45.
His case tests all sorts of social and ethics boundaries.
A million-dollar baby for real.
And I say this with the conviction and experience of someone too ill but uncommonly so, to get certified by any assisted dying program in the US.

Schumacher and Senna are my heroes, really tragic what happened to Michael, even then his accident was entirely unrelated to his career. The GOATs.

 

[Alpacachino]

Die hard became a reality for him

 

[Captive_Mind515]

If I am diagnosed with a terminal disorder such as dementia, I will certainly opt for euthanasia, but I'd wait until my brain degrades to a near-inoperable level; after that, there's no more value that can be extracted from life, so it's time to go.

I seen a guy in the uk who got dementia, and he had watched his own father go through the same exact thing. He had cared for him, so he knew how bad it was. He signed up with one of the swiss clinics, so that he could go before the condition got too bad. But he was still functioning well, so like you say he wanted to keep enjoying his life for as long as possible. The problem is how do you know when is the right time? What if you leave it too late, and you can no longer make any decisions?

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Imo ftd dementia is another horrible thing that can happen to anyone

I saw on the internet bruce willis can no longer speak or walk and that was 6 months ago but still alive.

4 years with this disease already

Bruce willis wasn't from a accident or stroke but these can also cause brain damage and can happen to me or anyone any second

Robin Williams got a different disease and committed suicide the hell of it was so excruciating

 

[Ligottian]

My father died of dementia in his 80's. It's really horrible. At one point he would call my sister and I at say 2 AM thinking it was 2 PM.

 

[Arvayn]

I seen a guy in the uk who got dementia, and he had watched his own father go through the same exact thing. He had cared for him, so he knew how bad it was. He signed up with one of the swiss clinics, so that he could go before the condition got too bad. But he was still functioning well, so like you say he wanted to keep enjoying his life for as long as possible. The problem is how do you know when is the right time? What if you leave it too late, and you can no longer make any decisions?

I'd set a hard cut-off point for myself, and then go get euthanized once I reach that time. I think I'd wait until I officially reach Stage 4: Moderate Cognitive Decline, and then clock out.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

I'm guessing he probably made that decision in the early stages of the diagnosis.

Made what decision? That is rarely how it works. Particularly with the type of dementia he has, FTD, it typically takes years to get a diagnosis, and the person is usually unaware that anything is even happening to them. By the time he got his diagnosis, he was already quite far gone, and wasn't able to make any such decisions. He had already lost his ability to understand language and how to speak. How can someone make a decision when they no longer understand language? Also, a personality change often takes place, and they make choices their former selves never would have made. He didn't make any decision, it crept up on him & he had no idea that there was even a decision to be made.

There will come a point with dementia, where you don't even realise you're making a choice anymore. You won't have the critical faculties to make big decisions.

By the time most people get a diagnosis, it's already way too late.

It's so fucking sad what happened to that talented person. Dementia is a motherfucker and I hope I don't catch that illness, with a life expectancy of 7-13 years. Living hell. I'd rather do exit bag or fly to Switzerland for euthanasia protocols right away. What are your thoughts?

Yes but he had no way to do that. He had already been nonverbal for quite a while before he got a diagnosis. He was probably never even told of his diagnosis, and the worst part is that even if he had been, he was already past the point of really understanding language, so whatever they might have told him would've probably just sounded like a bunch of gobbledygook.