If you are a minor please don't visit this forum

[noname223]

I was not sure how to put this post. I really hope this is not a controversial opinion on this website. Honestly I absolutely can't say how many minors are visiting this website. I hope not many of them but I could barely make an estimation. For the ones who are visiting this forum I would like them to know something.

I assume that many minors who want to commit suicide never have spoken to a professional. Probably/ Maybe the parents don't even know their child is contemplating suicide. You should not make such a final decision in such a young age. I think assisted suicide for minors should only be a rare exception. I would only allow it when a doctor would make an assessment about the situation and approves it.

If you are this young your brain is changing a lot. There are several developments which can be pretty burdensome. Puberty can be pretty horrible. In this age there is a lot of bullying happen. You want to belong to a group. You want to know who you are and where you should belong to. Being lonely or desperate in this age isn't that seldom. You are not alone with your struggle. There is a lot of peer pressuring happening at school. Maybe you experience your first love at this age or your first rejections/broken partnerships. The emotions and moods in this age can be often quite extreme. The hormones can make you feel horrible and puzzled. At this age many try to become more independent from their parents or start using drugs. I can only recommend please be careful with psychoactive drugs. There are several studies which prove even marijuana can damage your mental health a lot when you are a teenager. Smoking weed as a teenager is pretty dangerous for example concerning developing a psychosis.

If you are this young you should not make such a final decision as committing suicde. As I said your brain and health is developing. It is barely impossible to predict the future at such a young age. Maybe you feel like if you were in an absolute hopeless situation. Talking with someone you trust in real life can be relieving. Maybe you know a teacher who you trust or you have a psychologist at your school. If you have a good relationship to your parents maybe they can help you so that you can talk to a professional. There is no need to feel ashamed for your struggling. Maybe you have depression and you don't even know it. When I was a teenager I had depression too (and mania) and I did not know it. Mental illnesses can be treated with therapy and medication. There are good alternatives to suicide.

If the relationship with your first love broke up this can feel like the world is ending for you. Trust me this problem is in most cases fixable. Wanting to commit suicide as a teenager because your first love rejected you isn't that rare. It hurts a lot it, it can be a huge pain but if you live on in 10 or 20 years you will think that this was only a short period time in your development. Most adults can remember the pain they have experienced when their first love rejected them. Handling such a setback can make you stronger and more resilient.

Committing suicide as a minor is in most cases not a good idea. There are many teenagers who experience several crises when growing up. It is quite common. If you still want to do it when you are an adult you can still do it. There is no need to rush with this decision. The outcome of your life is often undetermined in this age. Noone can predict the future despite the fact you might feel like it would never become better. Hiding your suffering can be pretty tough. At this age I had noone to talk to. I could not open up to anyone. After my psychosis I was more or less forced to open up. For me it was relieving.

The notion that there are teenagers in this forum who never spoke to anyone about their pain is quite terrifying for me. This final decision can wait till you are older. Being a teenager is often related to existential crisis. There are so many adults for whom this only was a temporary struggle. Your life as a teeanger is often completely different to your life as an adult. There are so many examples for that. ( Though in this forum many adults are rather a bad example for that. But if we look at statistics there is a good chance for a better life as an adult.)

Yeah I hope noone is angry with me because this post is more life-affirming. The positivity rather belongs to recovery but ALL teeangers should know about that and not only the ones who want to recover.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Most minors probably aren't going to have the attention span for that unfortunately. Even if they did, it's a little condescending but then again, very little of what adults say to minors ever doesn't come across that way.

If you're a minor, no matter what situation brought you here, don't be on this site if you actually care about what it stands for. No amount of "but I'm so mature" is going to make it acceptable for you to use your mere presence to endanger the peace of mind that suicidal people overall find here.

If you really wish to prove you can think like an adult so badly, then do the grownup thing: stop thinking only about yourself and stay away from this site until you're old enough to not be a liability to it.

 

[noname223]

Most minors probably aren't going to have the attention span for that unfortunately. Even if they did, it's a little condescending but then again, very little of what adults say to minors ever doesn't come across that way.

If you're a minor, no matter what situation brought you here, don't be on this site if you actually care about what it stands for. No amount of "but I'm so mature" is going to make it acceptable for you to endanger the peace of mind that suicidal people overall find here with your mere presence.

If you really wish to prove you can think like an adult so badly, then do the grownup thing: stop thinking only about yourself and stay away from this site until you're old enough to not be a liability to it.

I feel sorry if it really sounds condescending. The pain these minors experience is real. It can be extreme and it can be very hard to cope with. But as I said at this age you can't say whether the pain is persistent. Many crises teenagers experience are only temporary. Many can recover from these crises. There is real hope that it gets better.

 

[Interloper]

As if any minor would actually listen lol. Noble effort though.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I feel sorry if it really sounds condescending. The pain these minors experience is real. It can be extreme and it can be very hard to cope with. But as I said at this age you can't say whether the pain is persistent. Many crises teenagers experience are only temporary. Many can recover from these crises. There is real hope that it gets better.

The way I see it, everyone should at least go on living long enough to get a taste of the real world before deciding they really want/need to exit it.

 

[symphony]

I agree with everything here, but honestly this post is all a little idealistic. When I was a tween, I lurked on lostallhope (I'm pretty sure it was that site, anyways). I didn't realize or have the capacity to realize that I was mentally ill, didn't realize anything was "wrong", and wouldn't have known how to seek help even if I had thought to or wanted to. I imagine this isn't an uncommon scenario, sadly.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

The real problem for minors is that don't have proper means to numb their pain. They just don't! It's illegal for them to run away from their abusive and/or overprotective home. MHP's aren't there to help them; they're their parents' enablers. They do absolutely nothing to help a minor's problems, and basically tell the minor "sucks to be you!". Most antidepressants aren't available to people under 18, and many doctors won't prescribe them to anyone under 25. They can't legally buy alcohol and tobacco; you have to be 21 to get them in the US. Marijuana is legal in only 18 states, and even there, you have to be 21 to buy it. So when it comes to sadness/misery, minors are basically fucked in the ass! They're forced to feel it full strength! In which case, CTB is their only hope and/or means of escape.

Now, I UNDERSTAND that minors on SS are a liability for us adults. But we can't forget how unpleasant and disempowering most kids' and teens' lives are. I, personally, think anyone old enough to know what misery feels like should be free to CTB on their own accord. As a kid, I fantasized about my school opening an on-site euthanasia clinic, where kids could go to avoid punishment at home, if they got a bad grade or got caught misbehaving. But that's not the reality. Plus, if kids were free to CTB anytime, school enrollment would drop, and schools would lose government funding; since everybody likes money, schools want to keep desks full of students, even if those students are suicidally miserable. Maybe if minors sign up as fake adults, we can have plausible deniability. It's no different than teenage boys clicking "I'm 18" on porn sites.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I agree with @noname223, teens brains are changing so rapidly and hormones are all over the place. I think it's wise to wait until that stage of life passes, and then see how you feel. Even if you have serious problems as a teen, a lot of the time growing up and getting out of your parents house can make things better. And if things don't get better at least you can die knowing you gave life an honest try, with a fully developed brain.

 

[KimKevorkian]

And technically it could be argues someone is not fully developed until past age 25, as one's brain is still growing. After 25, it starts shrinking and it's all downhill from there. Seiously, give life the best shot you've got, DESPITE YOUR EMOTIONS. Your feelings will follow your behavior. My 2 cents.

 

[summers]

They're forced to feel it full strength! In which case, CTB is their only hope and/or means of escape.

Nope, they could commit a serious crime and get put in a youth detention center (if they want out of their house). I worked at one of these places. Even for kids who were rapists and murderers, it was like summer camp.

There are plenty of non-violent felonies - I'm not saying to assault, rape, or kill anyone.

 

[Britvik]

I know of a 12 year old who ended their life last year They were on the autism spectrum. One of the parents is a psychiatrist.

 

[NSA]

I can uderstand the sentiment, and certainly the liability, of not wanting minors on this site, but it is a bit narrow-minded I think to believe a kid can't fully appreciate a decision like ctb. I would have loved to have a resource like this growing up, for the same reasons I love it now. Things might have even turned out better for me, with the camaraderie and support this place offers that I couldn't have, and still can't have, in-person.

On an unrelated note, it boggles my mind that people put their real info, of any kind, on the internet.

 

[houseofleaves]

On an unrelated note, it boggles my mind that people put their real info, of any kind, on the internet.

THIS ++++++++

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

Nope, they could commit a serious crime and get put in a youth detention center (if they want out of their house). I worked at one of these places. Even for kids who were rapists and murderers, it was like summer camp.

You're forgetting something: bullying! It's a given that in a juvenile prison, stronger kids bully the weaker kids, including sexually. And the strong kids who do the bullying are seldom miserable enough to CTB; they're highly respected by both their peers and their parents. It's the weak kids whose only escape from misery is The Bus; they'd be VERY miserable in prison, and their parents don't respect them much, either.

I don't know which country you're in. But in my area, a liberal state in the US, juvenile detention centers (or "juvies") are nothing like summer camp. In fact, many prisons are outsourced to private companies, whose goal is profit, at the expense of the prisoners' well-being.

 

[Weebster]

"You're not my real dad."

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

*Sigh*, ok I'll leave.

Back to the realities of inceldom:

 

[Symbiote]