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dontwakemeup

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Nov 11, 2024
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What do think would be appropriate to be approved? I'll start.
-I think you have to be followed by a psychiatrist for a minimum of a year.
-Taken medication for over a year and it's not proven to help.
-Age requirement (idk what minimum age would be fair)
-A letter from your doctor stating all treatments have been used and ineffective and their approval.
 
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Adûnâi

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-Taken medication for over a year and it's not proven to help.
I'd rather kill myself than take mind-altering poisons. (Although "poison" in this context sound ironic.)
 
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dontwakemeup

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I refuse all psych medication except my benzo's. They do not help me at all. I agree, it's just useless poison.
I'd rather kill myself than take mind-altering poisons. (Although "poison" in this context sound ironic.)
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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Someone helping you with suicide was legal until these monsters went through a lot of trouble to write and pass laws that made that a crime . same thing for suicide booths like Sarco. they made suicide booths , suicide kits , suicide machines crimes. they also made Nembutal a crime, cyanide capsules any guaranteed suicide method they could think of.

they stole our most important right . the right to move away from extreme suffering , unbearable pain and extreme torture.

No one has the right to quickly leave this life in a guaranteed way. Also we don't have a right to individual autonomy . they made us slaves prisoners torture victims. they own us our bodies and tell us we can't leave nor do what we want with our bodies.

All this stands alone . but it's more unjust , ridiculous and oprressive when you add these reasons. we all will die anyway. so they are telling us that even if we are in extreme torture we have to stay suffering and can't stop our suffering even though we are going to die anyway and there is no objective reason to live another minute anyway. there is no objective reason for why i have to live another minute. plus i will die anyway . so these 4 reasons sum up on top of each other
. to me nothing matters except avoiding extreme suffering then other kinds of suffering pain and problems .

Another example they made crimes are Fentanyl . although they didn't make that a crime to stop suicide like they did suicide booths and helping others in suicide.

no one sees we live in an extreme suicide prohibition state and that we are all slaves prisoners with our most important rights stolen.

everything is even more oppressive when you know that a human is just cells which makes everything even less meaningfull. nothing could ever have any meaning . nothing matters. but they tell us it's so moral to prolong life prolong suffering for no objective reason and we all will die anyway. boggles my mind that no one sees this and the state we are all in . most people i guess think they are immune to something very horrible happening to them and then they don't have a quick way to get out of that nightmare trap.

t was always legal for someone even a friend or someone you could hire to help you with suicide until they made that a crime. for example here in the U.S. i could've hired someone to shoot me in the head if they hadn't made that a crime. it's ridiculously easy to kill someone else with a gun or shotgun. they could take multiple shots at my head if need be. the problem with diy suicide is that i will only get one shot at my head because i will be incapacitated unconscious after i shoot my head. but i might remain alive with brain damage. multiple shots make Death guaranteed and millions of times more reliable than diy suicide.

There was Nembutal ,cyanide capsules. they made those crimes. There is a suicide booth now PN's Sarco . but they won't approve it for everyone

There were never really suicide booths because they made those a crime. same for suicide kits. Kenneth law and Dr kevorkian made suicide kits or machines but both were arrested and put in prison.

It's just another reason for me to kill myself asap that no one sees this above. they all think that we have to beg the monsters who took away the rights we already had to grant us some kind of crap with all kinds of conditions.

 
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Someone helping you with suicide was legal until these monsters went through a lot of trouble to write and pass laws that made that a crime . same thing for suicide booths like Sarco. they made suicide booths , suicide kits , suicide machines crimes. they also made Nembutal a crime, cyanide capsules any guaranteed suicide method they could think of.

they stole our most important right . the right to move away from extreme suffering , unbearable pain and extreme torture.

Another example they made crimes are Fentanyl . although they didn't make that a crime to stop suicide like they did suicide booths and helping others in suicide.
I never knew they ever had such things. The only thing I remember was Dr. Kavorkian, he seemed like the perfect doctor who understood and helped those who wanted to go.
 
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  • Approval from two to three psychologists (not psychiatrists)
  • Waiting period of nine months
  • No age minimum
 
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Sep 25, 2024
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I dont think there should be any legal requirements beyond the clear consent of all those involved. If it is a case where it would really be an awful mistake, then most likely the physician will not consent, so that mitigates many issues without any arbitrary specific rules that will never cover all situations and cultures well.

I havent thought about this question for very long, so i'm not particularly confident in this opinion, but it is my first thought.
 
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Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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I never knew they ever had such things. The only thing I remember was Dr. Kavorkian, he seemed like the perfect doctor who understood and helped those who wanted to go.
it was always legal for someone even a friend or someone you could hire to help you with suicide until they made that a crime. for example here in the U.S. i could've hired someone to shoot me in the head if they hadn't made that a crime. it's ridiculously easy to kill someone else with a gun or shotgun. they could take multiple shots at my head if need be. the problem with diy suicide is that i will only get one shot at my head because i will be incapacitated unconscious after i shoot my head. but i might remain alive with brain damage. multiple shots make Death guaranteed and millions of times more reliable than diy suicide.

There was Nembutal ,cyanide capsules. they made those crimes. There is a suicide booth now PN's Sarco . but they won't approve it for everyone

There were never really suicide booths because they made those a crime. same for suicide kits. Kenneth law and Dr kevorkian made suicide kits or machines but both were arrested and put in prison.

 
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There was Nembutal ,cyanide capsules. There is a suicide booth now PN's Sarco . but they won't approve it for everyone
All the things going on in the world, this should the least of anyone's concern! They need to just let us go in peace! I wish their was a place that simply sold such things. Wishful thinking I guess.
 
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ScaredOfMachines

I am who I am
Nov 8, 2024
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What do think would be appropriate to be approved? I'll start.
-I think you have to be followed by a psychiatrist for a minimum of a year.
-Taken medication for over a year and it's not proven to help.
-Age requirement (idk what minimum age would be fair)
-A letter from your doctor stating all treatments have been used and ineffective and their approval.
Honestly any attempt to legalize suicide would be met with major backlash. Most of what you suggested already applies to trans people in countries like the U.S. and the U.K., (except age, but that might change soon) and you can end up on a waitlist or bouncing between psych to psych for years before you get HRT. It's pretty inaccessible unless you live in a good area or have a clinic nearby.

But setting up some informed-consent clinics like there are for HRT could be nice. All someone would have to do is say that they agree to death and what that entails, and they can ctb peacefully. Might be good to have a minimum age or some sort of waitlist just so people don't make heat-of-the-moment decisions though.
 
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Honestly any attempt to legalize suicide would be met with major backlash. Most of what you suggested already applies to trans people in countries like the U.S. and the U.K., (except age, but that might change soon) and you can end up on a waitlist or bouncing between psych to psych for years before you get HRT. It's pretty inaccessible unless you live in a good area or have a clinic nearby.

But setting up some informed-consent clinics like there are for HRT could be nice. All someone would have to do is say that they agree to death and what that entails, and they can ctb peacefully. Might be good to have a minimum age or some sort of waitlist just so people don't make heat-of-the-moment decisions though.
They will never legalize it! I can't even get my Dr to sign a DNR for me. Hopefully, it will be over soon. I hate to live another month, day, or year!
 
ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
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My opinion is that there shouldn't be any requirements at all
 
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Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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Age of Consent 18 or 21
Cooling-Off Period A mandatory waiting period (e.g., 6 months)
Don't agree with forced medication should be optional
 
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Ironborn

Ironborn

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Jan 29, 2024
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You should be a legal adult, 18+.
That's it. It's your life, if you don't want to live it it's nobody else's business to interfere.
 
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Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

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Aug 28, 2021
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If you decide to have children, vote for a dictator or volunteer for war you don´t have to be followed by a psychiatrist for a minimum of a year. So why should this happen when you claim your human right to kill yourself?

By the way, suicide is legal, you talking about assisted suicide or killing on demand, aren´t you?

The minimum age should be the same as when you are allowed to go to the army.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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May 21, 2023
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The criteria are simple:

- 18+ (=adults only)
- SI will do the rest and will protect people from killing themselves even if they have N in their hands.

There are many reasons why people contemplate suicide. It's not only bc of health issues. All personal reasons are valid.
 
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NoPoint2Life

Why is this so hard?
Aug 31, 2024
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What do think would be appropriate to be approved? I'll start.
-I think you have to be followed by a psychiatrist for a minimum of a year.
-Taken medication for over a year and it's not proven to help.
-Age requirement (idk what minimum age would be fair)
-A letter from your doctor stating all treatments have been used and ineffective and their approval.
I think there is a flaw here. Being followed by a psychiatrist for a year is great. But it clashes with the part stating all treatments have been used. It would take a hell of a lot longer than a year to go through every treatment option.

I wish your idea would happen but they are always gonna make us suffer for for years beforehand
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,378
It needs to be legalised now as I'd never wish to suffer in this existence, for me personally non-existence would be always preferable to suffering in this terrible, torturous existence, to me human existence just feels like a mistake, I just want to die in peace and forget about it all, I have no interest in suffering in this existence just to be tormented by old age that I never would have chosen and never would have wished for. I just want to painlessly cease existing and never suffer ever again with all finally forgotten about for me, I just find it so cruel how there's no acceptance towards the personal choice to not exist, this existence was imposed so I should be able to free myself in peace from the imposition to save myself from all the meaningless suffering in this existence where there is no limit as to how much agony one can feel, existing will always be deeply undesirable to me.
 
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Earned it we have...
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- Over 18, unless there are debilitating health issues recognised by doctors and parents.

- They need to show capacity to understand the decision and its implications. I don't think all mental illness should be prohibited but, I think a person should be assessed and it could be put to them gently that their ideation may stem from eg. depression. From there though- I think the decision should be put back into the hands of the person applying.

- 6 month waiting period to prevent impulsive attempts. The person should be offered help in that time- eg. therapy, meds etc. But, I don't think they should be obliged to accept it. I don't agree that so much power is given to doctors. That ill people have to jump through so many hoops of fire- as it were before they finally agree their situation is dire enough.

- This won't be a popular stipulation but, I believe families ought to be aware of the person's choice and ideally, support them. I simply don't think it would remain sustainable if you have a whole bunch of people- and especially very young adults sneaking off to kill themselves! If we want society to be accepting of assisted suicide then, it needs to come from out the shadows.

The advatage of it being regulated and in the open would mean that families and the person themselves could be supported by counsellors during the process.

- Those who want to should be able to donate their organs.

- I think maybe these clinics would need to be privately run. Maybe the pricing structure would need to be standardised. I just think- looking at it morally/ economically- it may look a bit weird if our governments cut funding from say- housing support and pay more into assisted suicide programes! It may end up looking and kind of being like they are trying to kill off the unemployed and poor.
 
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so_mais_um

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Nov 15, 2024
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What do think would be appropriate to be approved? I'll start.
-I think you have to be followed by a psychiatrist for a minimum of a year.
-Taken medication for over a year and it's not proven to help.
-Age requirement (idk what minimum age would be fair)
-A letter from your doctor stating all treatments have been used and ineffective and their approval.
"You wanna die? Ok here you go"
 
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let.me.let.go87

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Jul 12, 2024
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What do think would be appropriate to be approved? I'll start.
-I think you have to be followed by a psychiatrist for a minimum of a year.
-Taken medication for over a year and it's not proven to help.
-Age requirement (idk what minimum age would be fair)
-A letter from your doctor stating all treatments have been used and ineffective and their approval.
I've been followed by a psychiatrist for over fifteen years. Taken meds since I was 15. I'm 37. None of them meds or treatments have helped I've been on ketamine too and had ECT and am currently in tms. Has four sessions of tms so far. If this doesn't work idc if it's legal I'm taking all my clonidine and jumping off Adam's canyon I'm done. I've done too much trying to get better. My husband is threatening to leave me now. I can't do this without him I don't want to do this without him and frankly I was suicidal before he ever said that. So I was just finally given the go ahead to end it. So if tms doesn't fix me I'm a dead man (or woman) walking.
 
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Marco77

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Aug 18, 2024
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But what requirements? Still in the hands of bureaucrats? Must we be puppets begging for basic rights from unscrupulous people? Suicide must be legal and FREE and GUARANTEED. People are dragged through life by force and once you are born you are wrapped in chains. There's no way I have to ask anyone for approval to leave this world. Placing requirements is criminal, it is a clear and squalid violation of the right to self-determination, to decide about one's own life.
 
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