Help If u ctb with sn, could you still be an organ donor?

[TDF]

Can you still be an organ donor if ctb with sn? Should be fine right?

 

[stillmirenai]

I don't think so. Sodium nitrite suicide involves cutting oxygen from your blood, and I think you can imagine what that'd do to the organs, if you've seen aftermath pictures of successful attempts.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

SN would be out I think, I know most people don't die in a way that would make organ donation possible. You would usually have to die in hospital, and you'd probably have to be on life support.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I doubt it. It's not only that I imagine the chemical itself may make certain organs unusable, (although I'm not sure...) it's more that I believe organs have to be removed while they are still fresh- as far as I know. So- that relies on people finding the body quickly. Yet- if they are alerted too quickly, they may have time to still 'save' the person. I'd like to be able to donate my organs but selfishly- my priority would be to have a successful attempt- so- I likely would put off alerting the authorities until it was way to late.

 

[nessun_nome]

Can you still be an organ donor if ctb with sn? Should be fine right?

No chance. All the organs will have their blood supply ruined.

 

[suicidaleeyore]

Successful Liver Transplantation After Neurologically Determined Death Donation Following Sodium Nitrite Poisoning

Sodium nitrite poisoning has been reported with increasing frequency since 2017 and popularized on social media as an effective means to commit suicide. Though accidental, non-intentional consumption has been reported, it is uncommon. Sodium nitrite is a colorless, odorless, yellowish-white...

www.cureus.com

 

[Whale_bones]

Successful Liver Transplantation After Neurologically Determined Death Donation Following Sodium Nitrite Poisoning

Sodium nitrite poisoning has been reported with increasing frequency since 2017 and popularized on social media as an effective means to commit suicide. Though accidental, non-intentional consumption has been reported, it is uncommon. Sodium nitrite is a colorless, odorless, yellowish-white...

www.cureus.com

This article is interesting to me because it's a reported case of bad physical effects after ingesting SN, showing it's not always reversible. The person in this article is described as having called emergency services immediately after ingestion. They received prompt medical care, methylene blue, etc, and at first seemed to be stable, but quickly progressed to multi-organ failure and died shortly after. I've long thought that there are cases of SN ingestion that weren't successfully reversed, and the person couldn't get on here to tell us because they are no longer alive. If it's been reported in an article like this, it's likely happened more than once, though with what frequency I don't know.

Anyways, I think this case doesn't really apply to anyone who is wondering if they can be an organ donor, because, as people have referenced above, this person's body was in the hospital and their organs were still supplied with blood right up until the transplantation took place. I don't think anyone could purposely plan the timing of that, and somehow ensure they were beyond resuscitation while still getting their body to a hospital in time for their organs to be donated.

I very much appreciate the article being shared though, as it offers information I hadn't seen before.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Can you still be an organ donor if ctb with sn? Should be fine right?

No. Your organs might be already too damaged because of lack of oxygen, and organs can only be donated as long as they were "kept alive". That's the point with "brain death" and only machines are keeping the body and organs working.

 

[Meditation guide]

All the blood in your body turns brown and is unable to carry oxygen and in the process all your organs are ruined and turn brown. Organ doners are usually people who died quickly in car accidents and can be taken to the morgue promptly, with some perfectly intact organs.

 

[TDF]

Yeah everyone on here is right sorry, I should have thought before I asked :(

 

[betternever2havbeen]

@todiefor no worries it was an interesting discussion and it seems it's possible though very unlikely.

This article is interesting to me because it's a reported case of bad physical effects after ingesting SN, showing it's not always reversible. The person in this article is described as having called emergency services immediately after ingestion. They received prompt medical care, methylene blue, etc, and at first seemed to be stable, but quickly progressed to multi-organ failure and died shortly after. I've long thought that there are cases of SN ingestion that weren't successfully reversed, and the person couldn't get on here to tell us because they are no longer alive. If it's been reported in an article like this, it's likely happened more than once, though with what frequency I don't know.

Anyways, I think this case doesn't really apply to anyone who is wondering if they can be an organ donor, because, as people have referenced above, this person's body was in the hospital and their organs were still supplied with blood right up until the transplantation took place. I don't think anyone could purposely plan the timing of that, and somehow ensure they were beyond resuscitation while still getting their body to a hospital in time for their organs to be donated.

I very much appreciate the article being shared though, as it offers information I hadn't seen before.

Does anyone know what this all means from that article-
Treatment was initiated with methylene blue (cumulative dose 7 mg/kg administered intravenously) and plasma exchange. She was also given 4 units of packed RBCs in the emergency to provide her fresh hemoglobin with oxygen-carrying capacity.

She was seen by the cardiovascular intensive care team and underwent an urgent percutaneous venous-arterial extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO) in the emergency room.

I know about the methylene blue ofc but what is an RBC? Is it a blood transfusion? Do they usually do that with SN? What about the ECMO what's that?

 

[John Ryder]

@todiefor no worries it was an interesting discussion and it seems it's possible though very unlikely.



Does anyone know what this all means from that article-
Treatment was initiated with methylene blue (cumulative dose 7 mg/kg administered intravenously) and plasma exchange. She was also given 4 units of packed RBCs in the emergency to provide her fresh hemoglobin with oxygen-carrying capacity.

She was seen by the cardiovascular intensive care team and underwent an urgent percutaneous venous-arterial extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO) in the emergency room.

I know about the methylene blue ofc but what is an RBC? Is it a blood transfusion? Do they usually do that with SN? What about the ECMO what's that?

red blood cells

 

[Meditation guide]

@todiefor no worries it was an interesting discussion and it seems it's possible though very unlikely.



Does anyone know what this all means from that article-
Treatment was initiated with methylene blue (cumulative dose 7 mg/kg administered intravenously) and plasma exchange. She was also given 4 units of packed RBCs in the emergency to provide her fresh hemoglobin with oxygen-carrying capacity.

She was seen by the cardiovascular intensive care team and underwent an urgent percutaneous venous-arterial extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO) in the emergency room.

I know about the methylene blue ofc but what is an RBC? Is it a blood transfusion? Do they usually do that with SN? What about the ECMO what's that?

I've heard of them using ECMO if someone is in danger of dying from covid, due to low oxygen. As I recall it is not usually available except in very high tech hospitals. It's something that gets oxygen into your body when your lungs can't do it. Surviving SN all depends on your particular hospital and if they even have methylene blue and get it into you promptly. It works about half the time.

 

[ringo99]

Can you still be an organ donor if ctb with sn? Should be fine right?

I asked this question a couple of months back. I think you could donate your corneas but the rest of your organs would be too badly damaged to be viable for donation

 

[enough of this]

I don't think so. Sodium nitrite suicide involves cutting oxygen from your blood, and I think you can imagine what that'd do to the organs, if you've seen aftermath pictures of successful attempts.

Agreed.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

I've heard of them using ECMO if someone is in danger of dying from covid, due to low oxygen. As I recall it is not usually available except in very high tech hospitals. It's something that gets oxygen into your body when your lungs can't do it. Surviving SN all depends on your particular hospital and if they even have methylene blue and get it into you promptly. It works about half the time.

Very interesting thanks! Seems they did everything to try and save her but it was all futile. Wonder how much SN she took.

 

[Euthanza]

Organ donor is only feasible with euthanasia, but I never knew if there's a case where doctors held it together. It will be wonderful though. Dr. Jack Kevorkian had been saying that for years.

 

[spøgelse]

no, unless you're saved and then die later on like in some cases. sn kills you due to oxygen depletion, which fucks up your organs.