Discussion If there were a theoretical, "magical" medicine that could help you, would you reconsider suicide?

[LuzurPhagget]

The importance of medicine CANNOT be overstated. They truly can be a game changer! I know, it sucks people like us slip into funks that occasionally require some chemical intervention, but whatever, that's how it it. I really STRONGLY urge anyone to give medication a chance if they haven't already.

Anyway, I was just curious, if there were an effective medication, would you reconsider and give life another chance?

 

[Weakling666]

For your first thought:

It's great to promote medicine to those who could benefit from it. My major depressive is leaning towards treatment resistant depression (have yet to try ect therapy, something I would try if I didn't already have a ctb date) but I still believe in it heavily, as my family benefits from medication greatly.

For your second thought:

Part of my mentality, which im sure a lot of us here share, is that I have been suffering too long, even if there were a solution it seems to me that there will always be a better solution; one that will never fail to end pain. (i am of course referring to death) (This also brings up the thought that perhaps death is that magical solution, though, in this case were talking of medicine) On the other hand, the part of me that listens to what doctors tell me "it gets better, trust me." would love an effective medication. I mean, if I could be relieved and be alive at the same time, why wouldn't I?? Suppose this only proves internal conflict and doubt inside my own person. Interested to see other's answers below.

 

[Ark]

It depends on what your question actually means. If you mean if there was a medicine that could FIX the pain? Hell yes! If I could take a pill and my health issues be cured, my emotional and mental pain be gone, then why wouldn't I?? Life would be worth living if not for the constant pain and anguish and not to mention already dying due to the health issue.

This wouldn't even be a question for me. But, the reality is that pill does not exist. I will spend every minute in pain. Physically, emotionally and mentally until I CTB. Or let my Pancreas kill me which is not a good way to go so I am taking control of the one thing I can, and that is choose when and how.

P.s. If you happen to have such a magic pill please share

 

[mathieu]

Yes, if the magical medicine restored me to perfect health I would reconsider suicide.

 

[Worthless_nobody]

Yes and no. If there truly was such a pill that would take away both my physical pain and mental issues then I would probably not ctb. However my memories of trauma and abuse would still be there, financial situation would still be in ruins, still be lonely, still unable to hold a job. So medicine alone would still not solve all of my many many issues. Unless it created an extreme blissful worry free state of constant happiness and euphoria no matter what my situation is.

 

[Fragile]

as for your first statement:

i agree to some degree, but people should be well informed about what psychiatric medications can do to you and how completely ineffective some of those are, also be VERY cautious with benzodiazepines and GABA substances, some people say that they are incredibly addictive and have some of the worst, if not THE worst withdrawal will be an understatement, and I and many others would have never touched them if it wasn't because a psychiatrist ordered us to do so, and now i'm dealing with addiction issues on top of everything else. the fucked up part is that doctos just told me that it will be easy to get off them and they usually have very little side effects, both were lies and now i'm suffering greatly because of it.

and as for your question:

it depends on what exactly you mean by help, is it that it will help me get by and ignore my problems like current psychiatric medicine but with some actual results? or that it will outright cure me from my genetic illnesses?

if it's the first case then no, i would not even try to pursue such treatment, i'm fundamentally broken and can't be fixed, and even when i'm happy and ignoring them, i still feel like dying by suicide is inevitable since i can't be cured anyway.

but if it's the second, then absolutely 100% yes, knowing that there is a cure would be enough for me to try recover and even try to live the life that was stolen from me by my illnesses, just imagining my body recovering and being less deformed because of a novel treatment would be enough to give myself a chance once again, i'll even endure all the mental trauma and ptsd because of how great the possibility of finding a cure and accomplishing at least some of my dreams would be.

sadly this is just a thought experiment, no real miracle drug exists and i'll inevitable die without even accomplishing one of my many dreams.

 

[sleepy dog]

The importance of medicine CANNOT be overstated. They truly can be a game changer! I know, it sucks people like us slip into funks that occasionally require some chemical intervention, but whatever, that's how it it. I really STRONGLY urge anyone to give medication a chance if they haven't already.

Anyway, I was just curious, if there were an effective medication, would you reconsider and give life another chance?

It CAN be overstated!
Psychiatrists, and other people, do it constantly.
There is no medication that will work. It all has bad effects, or horrible withdrawals, or both. A drug can seem to work for some time, then it stops working. Or the bad effects are too damaging. Then its time for withdrawals because using the drug needs to stop. There is no magical medicine.

 

[Reyki6667]

Yes, one like a vaccine.
but we don't live in that world now, do we?

 

[TearyEyedQueen]

Nah, I need a time machine not a medicine.

 

[not4us]

The name of my "magical medicine" would be EUTHANASIUM

 

[Dearmummy]

If there is a pill that could turn back time 20 years。hell yes

 

[SuicidalSymphonies]

I'm on many and they don't even do their job.

As for a "magic" cure all medicine to cure me of my diseases, I wouldn't even be here as much as I love you all. Still glad to be a part of this community.

However, theoretically an invention like this could go utterly wrong and ruin people's lives instead if we're talking about future science rather than fantasy.

 

[a_strange_day]

Maybe when I was younger. Meds helped me for a while but it was mostly just ups and downs. Now I'm too old. I don't even want to get better tbh.

 

[JustHeckinKillMe]

There's a magical medicine that can help me. It's called N.

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

If this 'magical medicine' cures poverty and ensures stable, safe housing and a life with dignity, sure.

 

[TAW122]

Not really and this is because even if there was such an antidote that would make me feel good, the problems that I am facing are still there and only that I would be oblivious to them and still experience them albeit in a zombified state. If you mean that it would magically (though this goes against all logic and laws of nature and the physical world) make ALL problems disappear, include solving the problems I have, then I may reconsider suicide. Ultimately, I'd still wish to be dead because I would rather not live for eternity or over long periods of time (over a century or even into my late 60's, 70's or 80's). There is just no point to life beyond a few decades, it gets old eventually.

 

[OneBigBlur]

If they found a psychotropic drug that'd numb me into oblivion or even keep me in a permanent state of ecstacy I still wouldn't take it because it wouldn't be real. That is not a cure, it's only ignoring problems.

I'm not sure if anyone has watched the show on Maniacs on Netflix but they invented a machine that helped people resolve their trauma in a natural way, I'd certainly do that. However, I'd still want to die even if something like that existed because many things would still not change. I'd still be alone, I'd still hate how the world works, and people still wouldn't value me for who I am. I wish this world didn't run on things like money and looks but they do and no magic pill or machine can change that.

The best that I can hope for is that there is a afterlife where everyone has a home, money doesn't matter, nobody gets sick or old, and everyone has someone that loves them and won't abandon them. The world we live in is the exact opposite of that and no drug is going to change reality.

 

[Jean4]

It would have to bring back a certain person who CTB a week ago first.

 

[Nem]

Meds ruined my life
Peace/hugs

 

[WilliamKline]

The importance of medicine CANNOT be overstated. They truly can be a game changer! I know, it sucks people like us slip into funks that occasionally require some chemical intervention, but whatever, that's how it it. I really STRONGLY urge anyone to give medication a chance if they haven't already.

Anyway, I was just curious, if there were an effective medication, would you reconsider and give life another chance?

It's incredible what effects chemicals can have, I was amazed at the effects a tiny bit of LSD can have when I first tried it. I think an important part here is that although the brain is continuously evolving, patterns have been ingrained

 

[MeltingHeart]

Nah, I need a time machine not a medicine.

Same!

 

[LuzurPhagget]

I believe ultimately we have free will. We have the freedom to choose. I'm not going to argue about how "beautiful life is" and "how wrong people are to disagree" because ultimately, we have the ability to choose.

I find ALOT of people on here are fixated on the ugliness and bad things in life. So engrossed in their owns beliefs that they would RATHER be "right" about life being a shithole rather than actually being happy in life. They would prefer their negative mindsets being "true" than being happy, or at least making an attempt to. I mean, ultimately, they AREN'T actually wrong. But they aren't any more or less wrong than those happy wanderer pricks raving about the beauty of life. It always comes back to that stupid glass. Nobody is truly right and nobody is truly wrong. Maybe we do have a choice? There is still ALOT of beautiful things in this life worth experiencing! If you can, try to stay alive as long as you can!

Anyway, I REALLY thought I was going to kill myself some weeks ago. Things were REALLY bad for a VERY long time and I thought I tried enough. It feels like frickin chance I'm still here. I was drinking some wine one night, and for some reason, I decided to chow down a couple of psilocybin mushrooms (maybe about 5) and wow, I just felt so...elated. I felt alright. I felt like, "reconnected" to the world. I started to feel things again. I actually shed quite a few tears of joy I should add. Wow, it's been more than 3 weeks now and I'm still feeling pretty alright (haven't even administered another dose!). The worst thing I really felt from it all was that I had a little diarrhea for a few days after.

Anyway, it's so bizzare because I HAVE tried some psilocybin mushrooms before, but it would just give me racing (albeit stimulating) thoughts but with a side of annoying anxiety. However, I'm thinking the alcohol must have acted as a sedating agent to mitigate those anxious thoughts/feelings, thus enabling the shrooms to do its therapeutic work. Fuck, it's so bizzare!

Anyway, this is AMAZING medicine! I feel like I'm operating at more or less my full potential. I mean, fuck, not everything is daisies and lillies and I still feel a lot of guilt for something from the past, but I feel I can make amends and learn to live with myself. Basically, Ive decided to donate blood. If I can make 25 donations, I think I can let myself off the hook. And I'm not even a big fan of needles!

Anyway, I still got shrooms left...Anybody wanna try some? I'm comfortable driving a few hours worth in Ontario, Canada.

 

[Moonicide]

I'm too far gone that it wouldn't even make a difference. A pill won't fix my living situation, my stunted growth, my trauma. It's too late for me.

 

[Reaper44]

I don't think any medication can bring back the past, so I doubt it's worth it.

 

[R_N]

If I could live as a healthy human being for a few more decades I would take it. But being old even when you are healthy is probably uncomfortable.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

If there is a pill that could turn back time 20 years。hell yes

How old are you

 

[dumdumdedum]

deep down, i suspect many of us here feel the same way: there is no magical medicine, there never was. perhaps there will be one, a hundred years from now.
presently, everything we have is a stop-gap, something delaying the inevitable. it is illusory and a distortion, in a deep sense.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

As long as we're not ready to look beyond the individual person to their particular circumstances as well as society at large, I don't see what such a drug would accomplish. So you'd be a happy drugged up person; happy in spite of precarious working conditions; happy in spite of dysfunctional family Dynamics; happy in spite of predatory capitalist society; happy in spite of lonelieness. Maybe there really are people who have a great life and they are somehow 'biologically depressed'... Well for them, the pill would be valid I think, as well as for people in chronic pain.