TAW122
Emissary of the right to die.
- Aug 30, 2018
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I had many threads criticizing MHP's (Mental Health Professionals) as well as potential solutions on what they should do to help their patients including those with CTB ideation, but recently, I managed to come up with another example that illustrates and exposes their flawed reasoning and mindset and hypocrisy when it comes to taking other's word (especially about CTB'ing) at face value. Before I go on, here are the threads just for quick reference:
There are more and I've written quite a bit but these are more than enough to get my point across, especially the first thread in the list of threads.
When MHP's and society don't take patient's word at face value:
With that said, I've just found a connection and an analogy that seems to illustrate my point but from a different angle. The root of the problem is that in the psychiatric industry as well as society, views that if someone wishes to CTB, then it is the result of a mental illness, considered irrational, and that CTB'ing is never the solution or answer. What the psychiatry industry and society needs is a reform on the fact that CTB ideation and that life isn't always pretty nor worth living. Furthermore, wanting to die isn't always a mental illness or wrong; in fact, it could be a solution to a never-ending chronic problem. So instead of taking the patient's word at face value, they gaslight, guilt & shame, and intervene against them as if the patient is an adversarial opponent and/or a child. It's degrading and dehumanizing.
Here is a good example illustrating the double-standard, hypocritical view of society when it comes to pro-choice people (people who wish to exercise the right to self-determination). There is a common, but important concept when it comes to consent, which is "No means no" and "Yes means yes". In almost all circumstances, most people recognize that if a man/woman says "no" it literally means "no" (or 'yes' means 'yes'). They don't second guess, question, or doubt the meaning and accept it at face value. In fact, when people don't respect "consent" there are social and legal consequences for the person violating "consent" (not just limited to sexual contexts, but in a more general sense as well). Therefore, when a person who is mindfully and willingly deciding to CTB, society and MHPs should respect that person's choice. But that isn't the case. Instead they are gaslighted, guilt-tripped & shamed, and also have their civil liberties, freedoms, privacy, and dignity violated. This is just straight up hypocrisy.
(Rhetorical question: If society and MHP respect's an individual's choice when it comes to consent to things (including but not limited to sexual activities, contracts, and many other decisions in life), then why don't they respect an individual's choice when it comes to self-determination of whether to give up or continue fighting?)
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...s-or-driving-factors-for-people-ctbing.36712/
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/on-decision-making-capacity.42519/
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...s-are-considered-legalized-criminality.39152/
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...ng-to-mhps-mental-health-professionals.37231/
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...r-people-who-are-looking-for-solutions.37579/
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...d-the-right-help-didnt-try-hard-enough.37269/
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...ed-and-gives-a-false-sense-of-security.46824/
There are more and I've written quite a bit but these are more than enough to get my point across, especially the first thread in the list of threads.
When MHP's and society don't take patient's word at face value:
With that said, I've just found a connection and an analogy that seems to illustrate my point but from a different angle. The root of the problem is that in the psychiatric industry as well as society, views that if someone wishes to CTB, then it is the result of a mental illness, considered irrational, and that CTB'ing is never the solution or answer. What the psychiatry industry and society needs is a reform on the fact that CTB ideation and that life isn't always pretty nor worth living. Furthermore, wanting to die isn't always a mental illness or wrong; in fact, it could be a solution to a never-ending chronic problem. So instead of taking the patient's word at face value, they gaslight, guilt & shame, and intervene against them as if the patient is an adversarial opponent and/or a child. It's degrading and dehumanizing.
Here is a good example illustrating the double-standard, hypocritical view of society when it comes to pro-choice people (people who wish to exercise the right to self-determination). There is a common, but important concept when it comes to consent, which is "No means no" and "Yes means yes". In almost all circumstances, most people recognize that if a man/woman says "no" it literally means "no" (or 'yes' means 'yes'). They don't second guess, question, or doubt the meaning and accept it at face value. In fact, when people don't respect "consent" there are social and legal consequences for the person violating "consent" (not just limited to sexual contexts, but in a more general sense as well). Therefore, when a person who is mindfully and willingly deciding to CTB, society and MHPs should respect that person's choice. But that isn't the case. Instead they are gaslighted, guilt-tripped & shamed, and also have their civil liberties, freedoms, privacy, and dignity violated. This is just straight up hypocrisy.
(Rhetorical question: If society and MHP respect's an individual's choice when it comes to consent to things (including but not limited to sexual activities, contracts, and many other decisions in life), then why don't they respect an individual's choice when it comes to self-determination of whether to give up or continue fighting?)
