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Willthishelp?

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I have sn but chicken out all the time, prepared myself 4 times but chicken out right before due to the failure stories and the vegetable state I could land myself into..
 
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conarc

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It is safe, read the Peaceful pill handbook.

Almost no failures are known if you follow the guidelines.
 
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It is safe, read the Peaceful pill handbook.

Almost no failures are known if you follow the guidelines.
But who knows for sure there are people here who claim did the right regime and failed or the ones who are vegetable state are not able to tell about it..
 
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It is safe, read the Peaceful pill handbook.

Almost no failures are known if you follow the guidelines.
I read for six hours yesterday about success and failure and it caught my attention that there were two people who documented their failures, one of whom was rescued and the other had a very sensitive stomach (he might vomit because of the toothpaste as he said)
But who knows for sure there are people here who claim did the right regime and failed or the ones who are vegetable state are not able to tell about it..
For me, even if I turn into vegetables, I might search before I die for an additional method that works if I turn into vegetables
 
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Most survivor stories I've glanced upon were the sn being not pure enough, not enough, got oxidized, was salt/nitrate or thoroughly vommitted out. The rest were rescued early or a combination of other misfortunes.
 
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Jealous Blackheart

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It's more difficult than people think to go through with it. I genuinely don't think most people could do it. Everything in you is wired to avoid it. It is the most natural thing to doubt and second guess. And you should. I do believe that self determination is an innate right but it's worth careful consideration. I've unfortunately failed multiple times. I know exactly what it feels like to come up against that biological resistance and I overwrote it every time. But that is because I have explored every alternative, argued every reason, and know without a doubt. Until you've exhausted every possibility it is going to be difficult for you to commit. Explore your reason and see what you find.
 
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It's more difficult than people think to go through with it. I genuinely don't think most people could do it. Everything in you is wired to avoid it. It is the most natural thing to doubt and second guess. And you should. I do believe that self determination is an innate right but it's worth careful consideration. I've unfortunately failed multiple times. I know exactly what it feels like to come up against that biological resistance and I overwrote it every time. But that is because I have explored every alternative, argued every reason, and know without a doubt. Until you've exhausted every possibility it is going to be difficult for you to commit. Explore your reason and see what you find.
I doubt this. If ones life is simply fucked up because of long disease history, abuse or disability, it wont be difficult to have a few sips of salty SN if you know that you have a very high chance of finally being free afterwards...

In many cases, especially on this forum, suicide is a rational decision. We are not hardwired to simply survive if we do not want anymore,but society, economy and some members tell us that stories...

SN is a cheap and reliable way to leave this world. Unfortunately scaremongering about it is getting popular recently.
 
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I doubt this. If ones life is simply fucked up because of long disease history, abuse or disability, it wont be difficult to have a few sips of salty SN if you know that you have a very high chance of finally being free afterwards...
It's not that simple... Ever since i got my sn, i find myself staring at it every night contemplating. And the fear of it not working terrifies me more that i hold off for another day.
 
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I doubt this. If ones life is simply fucked up because of long disease history, abuse or disability, it wont be difficult to have a few sips of salty SN if you know that you have a very high chance of finally being free afterwards...

In many cases, especially on this forum, suicide is a rational decision. We are not hardwired to simply survive if we do not want anymore,but society, economy and some members tell us that stories...

SN is a cheap and reliable way to leave this world. Unfortunately scaremongering about it is getting popular recently.

Membr ws decsribng survivl instnct whch mny SaSu membrs strggle wth

SI = nt scre-mongrng
 
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conarc

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Every day a new post pops up "What if SN does not work..."
 
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There is a chance of failure and surviving in a vegetative state but if you follow the regimen correctly, you'll succeed. Its not very complicated but it may sound intimidating because of the outcome in the case of failure. If you need more time to prepare before drinking the SN, its always possible. Just remember, there is a very low chance of failure if everything is done correctly. Believe me.

It is also your SI making you think this way and it is absolutely normal to think this way, and like I said before, if you need more time to prepare yourself and recompose yourself, that is always an option to do so. Don't worry, we're here if you ever have any doubts about anything.

But, just because we're telling you these things doesn't mean you should ctb impulsively, research a little bit and you'll come to the realization that SN has its own risks, but, they are easy to avoid.
 
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There is a chance of failure and surviving in a vegetative state but if you follow the regimen correctly, you'll succeed. Its not very complicated but it may sound intimidating because of the outcome in the case of failure. If you need more time to prepare before drinking the SN, its always possible. Just remember, there is a very low chance of failure if everything is done correctly. Believe me.

It is also your SI making you think this way and it is absolutely normal to think this way, and like I said before, if you need more time to prepare yourself and recompose yourself, that is always an option to do so. Don't worry, we're here if you ever have any doubts about anything.

But, just because we're telling you these things doesn't mean you should ctb impulsively, research a little bit and you'll come to the realization that SN has its own risks, but, they are easy to avoid.
I only have olanzepine and paracetamol for the regime
 
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I only have olanzepine and paracetamol for the regime
Thats fine, benzos isn't completely necessary. Furthermore, Olanzapine has a calming mechanism which would also work as benzos. It reduces excitement in the brain just like benzos does. I don't know what the correct dosage of olanzapine as an antiemetic is but you can create a thread to know.
 
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But who knows for sure there are people here who claim did the right regime and failed or the ones who are vegetable state are not able to tell about it..
No, SN most likely will not leave you in that state at all but i understand the fear behind it. It's completely normal to have your doubts since it is your SI talking and yes I do agree with my fellow user above who said that you have to do your research and you'll come to the realization that SN has its risks but they are easy to avoid.

I've been worried myself about any unforseen issues even if I have everything I need at this point.
Every day a new post pops up "What if SN does not work..."
it happens, people are afraid of failure with SI a driving motive behind that to get a clear picture about what are the consequences of failure behind SN and to therefore, minimize whatever chances of something going wrong. Resistance is hard to overcome in any respect too, it's just about overcoming it with as much assurance as possible.
 
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I doubt this. If ones life is simply fucked up because of long disease history, abuse or disability, it wont be difficult to have a few sips of salty SN if you know that you have a very high chance of finally being free afterwards...

In many cases, especially on this forum, suicide is a rational decision. We are not hardwired to simply survive if we do not want anymore,but society, economy and some members tell us that stories...

SN is a cheap and reliable way to leave this world. Unfortunately scaremongering about it is getting popular recently.
How could you know how the scaremongering is lately since you are only here for such a short time?
 
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I don't understand, I didn't write what you quoted, why have you quoted someone else's post under my name.

But anyway I find it horrible how people even have to worry about suicide methods failing in the first place, it's such a disgusting world we exist in where we cannot just permanently leave in peace in a guaranteed way, I hate how suicide is purposely made so unnecessarily difficult.
 
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I don't understand, I didn't write what you quoted, why have you quoted someone else's post under my name.

But anyway I find it horrible how people even have to worry about suicide methods failing in the first place, it's such a disgusting world we exist in where we cannot just permanently leave in peace in a guaranteed way, I hate how suicide is purposely made so unnecessarily difficult.
Its a bug from the multi quote feature of the forum, my browser parsed it incorrectly using your header with the fourth quote in the list. I didn't do it but I'm sorry for the bug happening. Each time I edit it keeps changing I gave up
 
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But anyway I find it horrible how people even have to worry about suicide methods failing in the first place, it's such a disgusting world we exist in where we cannot just permanently leave in peace in a guaranteed way, I hate how suicide is purposely made so unnecessarily difficult.
So true.
 
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Thats fine, benzos isn't completely necessary. Furthermore, Olanzapine has a calming mechanism which would also work as benzos. It reduces excitement in the brain just like benzos does. I don't know what the correct dosage of olanzapine as an antiemetic is but you can create a thread to know.
If only I knew it would result in death, I don't mind if it takes 5 joists or so but the uncertainty keeps me from going through
 
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If only I knew it would result in death, I don't mind if it takes 5 joists or so but the uncertainty keeps me from going through
If you're careful enough then it will result in death. Follow the regimen and make sure absolutely no external factors will be the cause of you being saved or surviving. The only reason why there are some who fail the SN method is because they either didn't follow the regimen or had someone save them before they died.
 
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Most survivor stories I've glanced upon were the sn being not pure enough, not enough, got oxidized, was salt/nitrate or thoroughly vommitted out. The rest were rescued early or a combination of other misfortunes.
I'm not sure about my sn did the tests but nitrate as high as nitrite and blood not as dark but from reputable vendor
It is safe, read the Peaceful pill handbook.

Almost no failures are known if you follow the guidelines.
Lot of failure stories..
 
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Anon7b8

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Aug 21, 2023
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I'm not sure about my sn did the tests but nitrate as high as nitrite and blood not as dark but from reputable vendor
Even reputable vendors seem to sell bad batches these days.... also if you did the strip test. Nitrate would also be high if there is nitrite present. So it really is only as accurate as we believe it to be it seems. At the end of the day, it's really up to our own determination if we want to catch the bus. And should be our own choice if and when we do it or not. You're not alone in hesitating either. Doesn't make you a coward.
 
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Even reputable vendors seem to sell bad batches these days.... also if you did the strip test. Nitrate would also be high if there is nitrite present. So it really is only as accurate as we believe it to be it seems. At the end of the day, it's really up to our own determination if we want to catch the bus. And should be our own choice if and when we do it or not. You're not alone in hesitating either. Doesn't make you a coward.
But what happens if I take the sn witch I am not sure if I know cases that did cbt with same vendor but other batch. Blood test turns brown but not as brown as supposedly. It's clumpy but vendor says cause of no anticaking
Even reputable vendors seem to sell bad batches these days.... also if you did the strip test. Nitrate would also be high if there is nitrite present. So it really is only as accurate as we believe it to be it seems. At the end of the day, it's really up to our own determination if we want to catch the bus. And should be our own choice if and when we do it or not. You're not alone in hesitating either. Doesn't make you a coward.
I am determined very much.. but two different vendors give the same results in the tests..
 
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Anon7b8

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But what happens if I take the sn witch I am not sure if I know cases that did cbt with same vendor but other match. Bliss test turns brown but not as brown as supposedly. It's clumpy but vendor says cause of no anticaking
Those questions really are the risk we have to take, there's never a sure thing with any method. Murphy's Law, "if anything can go wrong, it will. If it can't go wrong, it will go wrong anyway". blood test were really never accurate, just proves that there is sn in the powder.
 
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Those questions really are the risk we have to take, there's never a sure thing with any method. Murphy's Law, "if anything can go wrong, it will. If it can't go wrong, it will go wrong anyway". blood test were really never accurate, just proves that there is sn in the powder.
And aquarium shows both nitrate abs nitrate …
 
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It's not that simple... Ever since i got my sn, i find myself staring at it every night contemplating. And the fear of it not working terrifies me more that i hold off for another day.

Me too I don't think I will ever be able to push myself to do it. And I have to, the alternatives are so much worse.
 
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