if i fail this attempt, do you think i'll be involuntarily committed?

[explsionsinthesky]

if i fail, i'd just try again. but i can't do that if i get committed.

if i survive an SN attempt will i get committed? 2 years ago (i was a minor though) i tried to kill myself and was in the psych ward and i think i have a record at the emergency room i live next to for "intentional overdose". they knew i had several attempts before. the doctors there were convinced i'd try again but i managed to avoid involuntary commitment.

what can i do to avoid involuntary commitment? do my medical records at the emergency room reset once i'm a legal adult?

 

[eve2004]

Are you in the US? Someone should be able to tell you that, but I highly doubt your records reset. Unless you're my age, which means I was a minor before the digital records existed!

I would not count on getting out scott free from involuntary hold... unless you are secluded where you can't be found and wait till you recover to reappear in society...

If you were OD'ing on an illicit recreational drug, then it might be believable that it was accidental...

 

[jesse]

Involuntary commitment isn't the end of the world. I've been, it sucks, but you get out if you play ball and pretend to improve (at least here in the US). But I would recommend you don't make a suicide attempt unless you are sure you can pull it off (and want to).

 

[Ky204]

if i fail, i'd just try again. but i can't do that if i get committed.

if i survive an SN attempt will i get committed? 2 years ago (i was a minor though) i tried to kill myself and was in the psych ward and i think i have a record at the emergency room i live next to for "intentional overdose". they knew i had several attempts before. the doctors there were convinced i'd try again but i managed to avoid involuntary commitment.

what can i do to avoid involuntary commitment? do my medical records at the emergency room reset once i'm a legal adult?

Where I am (Canada) they would keep surveillance over you for a certain period of time before release. A minor would be committed (I was on my first attempt), and there are records that are kept but once you are declared an adult by the state you have a right to discharge yourself unless your life is in danger.

 

[jesse]

Where I am (Canada) they would keep surveillance over you for a certain period of time before release. A minor would be committed (I was on my first attempt), and there are records that are kept but once you are declared an adult by the state you have a right to discharge yourself unless your life is in danger.

You are supposed to be able to discharge yourself after 3 days here, but they say you are a danger to yourself until they've made enough profit off of you to justify your stay, hehe. I only had to suffer a week though, because I just did everything they asked of me and I took all their screwy meds like a good boy. I also slowly lowered my depression/anxiety scores each day haha. MH System sucks here, but again commitment isn't really as bad as the movies make it out to be. It's just boring and stressful with no privacy.

 

[gingerplum]

Honestly, it depends on where you're at and what type of insurance you have, if any.

 

[Ky204]

You are supposed to be able to discharge yourself after 3 days here, but they say you are a danger to yourself until they've made enough profit off of you to justify your stay, hehe. I only had to suffer a week though, because I just did everything they asked of me and I took all their screwy meds like a good boy. I also slowly lowered my depression/anxiety scores each day haha. MH System sucks here, but again commitment isn't really as bad as the movies make it out to be. It's just boring and stressful with no privacy.

A week isn't the worst, when I was underage they kept me for 2 months and it was unbearable. I also did everything they wanted and 2 months was considered short compared to other kids who were there for half a year, basically manipulating my way out by telling them what I knew they wanted to hear. I don't think you should worry much as a technical adult though, they can't keep you unless you're on your deathbed

 

[gingerplum]

A week isn't the worst, when I was underage they kept me for 2 months and it was unbearable. I also did everything they wanted and 2 months was considered short compared to other kids who were there for half a year, basically manipulating my way out by telling them what I knew they wanted to hear. I don't think you should worry much as a technical adult though, they can't keep you unless you're on your deathbed

Again, this depends on where you are: stateside adults can be Baker acted against their will.

 

[Jessica5]

If you don't get ill enough from the overdose that you have to go to the hospital, it is extremely doubtful you'll be committed, since nobody will even know about your attempt.

 

[Sweet emotion]

Get a DNR from your doctor. If people find you unresponsive it will be illegal for them to bring you back.

 

[gingerplum]

Get a DNR from your doctor. If people find you unresponsive it will be illegal for them to bring you back.

I wish it worked that way, but in the US, if EMS finds an unresponsive individual, even a DNR stapled to their chest will not stop them from attempting to resuscitate.

This, of course, is different than in a home setting with known Hospice care or a hospital.

 

[TAW122]

I think @gingerplum is correct (and if I recall @TiredHorse said the same thing in regards to DNR's and how EMTs respond to unresponsive individuals). To add to her point, I believe that in the US, especially since we live in a litigious society, any organization or individual will do everything they can to avoid being hit with a lawsuit or getting into trouble. They would rather be safe than sorry so they would act first, ask later. If it turned out they violated the individual's rights, then they decide to dish it, though sadly to the individual filing the grievance, he/she oftenly has little recourse, but that's another point for another topic.

 

[gingerplum]

I think @gingerplum is correct (and if I recall @TiredHorse said the same thing in regards to DNR's and how EMTs respond to unresponsive individuals). To add to her point, I believe that in the US, especially since we live in a litigious society, any organization or individual will do everything they can to avoid being hit with a lawsuit or getting into trouble. They would rather be safe than sorry so they would act first, ask later. If it turned out they violated the individual's rights, then they decide to dish it, though sadly to the individual filing the grievance, he/she oftenly has little recourse, but that's another point for another topic.

Nailed it. Not resuscitating someone would expose EMS (and thus the county) to a potential liability.

I miss @TiredHorse so much.

 

[Sweet emotion]

I wish it worked that way, but in the US, if EMS finds an unresponsive individual, even a DNR stapled to their chest will not stop them from attempting to resuscitate.

This, of course, is different than in a home setting with known Hospice care or a hospital.

Really? I live in the US and have read that as well. That is really messed up.

 

[gingerplum]

Really? I live in the US and have read that as well. That is really messed up.

Yep. It really is.

 

[Pistolero114]

If anyone learns of it; yes.

 

[Jessica5]

Get a DNR from your doctor. If people find you unresponsive it will be illegal for them to bring you back.

They sometimes ignore DNRs in the case of suicide. They basically view it as akin to enabling suicide.

Their reasoning isn't consistent and they don't view failing to resusicate a murder victim as akin to enabling murder.