Discussion If all your problems go away, will you still be here & feeling suicidal?

[niki wonoto]

I know this is kinda obvious, but I'm still curious nevertheless.

Let's suppose, all your problems somehow miraculously or magically just go away, and you are no longer burdened by the harsh, cruel, & cold everyday's reality of all your problems in your life.

Would you still feel suicidal? Would you still come here anyway to this website/forum? Or not?

Is your problem also perhaps existential? which goes much deeper, it means you'll still have problems with "Life" in general, even without all the problems!

I think each of us come here to this website/forum for many various & different reasons (& causes).

It will be interesting to see the responses/comments from you all.

 

[Jadeith]

I mean, if you (or some undefined miracle) can erase my self-hatred, rewrite my past mistakes or lobotomize me to forget about them and ensure i stay physically and mentally stable till the end of my days then yea, sure. I guess all the reasons to ctb would be gone.

 

[Lost in a Dream]

The only way for my biggest problem to go away is for me to die by suicide. Existence itself is my problem, so I voted for yes.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

If all my problems (it's only 1 major problem) magically disappeared I won't be suicidal anymore but it's highly likely that I will still spend time here bc it's such a great caring community here!

 

[pyranha]

i think i would still be suicidal, yes. the solution that would fix 95% of my problems is money. the thing is that even if someone gave me a million dollars right now, i would still feel incredibly disappointed by life as a whole. i feel that my existence itself is tainted and wrong, that i was never supposed to be here, but that i got cursed into being alive nonetheless. i am eternally bored and disappointed, unable to find a long lasting reason to be here. i guess if my life had some greater purpose (i do not say that in any religious manner) that would explain everything i've been through, that could make me want to see things through to the natural end. other than that, which is extremely unlikely to ever occur, i don't see any way for me to value my life

 

[FuneralCry]

For me existence itself is the problem and it's a problem that only ceasing to exist can solve for me and take away, simply just existing is enough to make me wish for death and for me non-existence is all that's positive, it's all I see as desirable, I see existence as an abomination that just causes all this suffering all for the sake of it and problems there were never a need for and it's all just so dreadful and terrible to me, I'd always prefer to not exist than be conscious in this existence suffering so unnecessarily just to be tortured by old age. It's so horrific to me how there's no limit as to how much one can suffer in this existence and as long as I exist I'll just hope to never suffer again, I'd never wish to exist at all under any circumstances, I'll always see existence as a deeply undesirable burden and I suffer just from being burdened with this existence, only non-existence can bring me peace from this futile, torturous existence that always felt like a mistake to me, I just want to fall asleep permanently and finally be at peace.

 

[Shadows From Hell]

I would still want to ctb. I hate humans, and want nothing to do with them. I can't see me staying around another 30 or 40 years just to keep other people happy.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Yes I will still be suicidal

Many reasons for this.

I don't want anything from evil life or this evil world
.........

Life is an evil imposition torture slavery prison

Even if your worse problems get solved. There will always be the chance of something else horrible happening to u or the same problems returning. Suffering problems sickness disease pain injustice parasites oppression old age unfairness and many other horrible nightmares are inherent parts of this evil world and evil life.

there are many other reasons that sit on top of those above.

there is no way to undo horrible things that happened in the past to you so the memories trauma the memories of the unfairness will always be there . the only thing that will get rid of all nightmares that happened or could happen is non-existence forever. the only thing that will undo all evil is permanent non-existence.

non-existence forever is the only gaurantee of never suffering extremely, the only guarantee of no pain, no sufferring, no bad memories , no problems , no work , no 1000 other hells.

you work 15 hours per day a job chores only to exist under threat of extreme torture . only to exist to get old and suffer the torture of old age and watching yourself decay. there is pain so bad one minute of it makes everything else meaningless. there is no purpose to work so hard only to exist under threat of extreme torture.

they made this world an even worse prison by making guaranteed suicide methods into crimes like someone helping you with suicide they made it a crime . so we are all prisoners

what is worth the worst pain? think of putting your hand on a red hot stove . the unbearable searing excruciating pain. how long could you hold your hand there pressing against red hot metal? i couldn't stand 1 second of that pain. what if you couldn;t pull it away and was forced to leave it there? what is worth 1 minute of that pain? 1 hour? what about all of your skin not just your hand against red hot metal as in the Brazen bull torture? what is worth 6 hours of that constant unbearable pain. yes the torture mechanisms caused it but it is that the brain is capable of producing such pain that is the horror the problem. if my brain was destroyed they could put my body all day on the burning metal and i wouldn't feel a thing cause id be dead and non-existent. see so the problem is that i'm alive and that horrible things can happen to me. and nothing is worth even 1 minute of the brazen bull torture much less days , months years which is possible . is a sandwich a youtube video worth that? No. who would trade 6 hours of watching youtube videos "enjoying" yourself for 6 hours of the brazen bull torture ? not me .

life is meaningless suffering. i see no reason for why i have to live another minute. nothing matters. what will matter in 150 years? what will matter in 10,000 years? in a trillion years? nothing. when i think about it logically the only things that matter to me are avoiding unbearable pain and my suicide asap

there is no reason to live even if didn't know i'm just cells, chemical reactions and a brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain. but knowing i'm chemical reactions what possible purpose? i see none

personally i feel every minute i continue in this hell i condone the evil imposition the evil done to me the slavery , every time i engage in ridiculous pleasure habits addictions like youtube news social media i condone all the evil i listed above and more i haven't written in this post or anywhere on this site.

only eternal non-existence wipes out all the evil for me and prevents any future suffering. only non-existence forever is the only perfection.

 

[GuppyBoyo]

I don't really think about me trying to ctb as *feeling* suicidal
suicidal is something i do, i meta analyse myself into wanting to cease my existence for it's own sake

as in, i want to stop existing, and that's something that i want to want. not a thing that i helplessly find myself being subject to

i would still take the magical fixer upper if i had access to it, but only as a means of bringing me closer to ctb, as having less problems will make it significantly easier.

 

[Outofoptions1]

I have many problems but I've been able to overcome most of them over the years. The one thing that I haven't gotten over is my chronic pain. It affects every aspect of my life and is degenerative in nature, meaning it'll only get worse. If that were gone, It'd be much easier to work on and fix other aspects of my life. My chronic pain is the only thing that makes me suicidal since it literally cannot be fixed or heal.

 

[grapevoid]

I don't know. If all my problems went away then likely my suicidal ideation would go away- my suicidal ideation in and of itself is my biggest problem. Even when things are good, it never goes away and it's exhausting having to keep it in check all the time. Sometimes I don't have anything to logically feel suicidal over, it's just there all the time. Some days it so relevant in my mind that having to stop for air in my tire will prompt me to think, I could just ctb so I don't have to keep doing this same stupid sh*t all the time. I wish I knew a better way to explain it but for me the constant battle with my ideation is the majority of my issue.

 

[amomentspeace]

If my problem disappeared I wouldn't be suicidal anymore (or at least that;s what I like to believe), though maybe I'd spend some time here idk this place breaks my heart sometimes but you guys are the only people that really understand

 

[sximii]

I'm not sure. I think a big component oh why I'm like this is bpd, which makes me chronically suicidal regardless of outside factors. So is the 'problem' in question that or other external problems?

 

[miseryonearth]

Do you have twitter account with same name?

 

[OptingOutSmiling]

If my main problem disappears, i.e., if my person and I can finally reunite as we plan in a few years, I will not want to be suicidal anymore and we will both make sure that nothing will cause a separation again. If my money and employment problems disappear, that could also help get me through these dark emotional times and hopefully lead to being more stable. Since these are "if's" I'm still here but even if I may find myself no longer actively suicidal in future, I don't foresee myself leaving this site because I would never want to leave this supportive community with like-minded individuals sharing views on just about everything. Even on good days I come here, because it's not just about being suicidal anymore, the forum has become like my social media and more of a family to me.

 

[twilightSparriw]

It's just too hard to imagine a life without severe bonding issues, social anxiety, addiction to love, bad self image, obsessions, introversy… i guess i's still be visiting with an unhealthy love for the dark side of life…

 

[EvisceratedJester]

I mean, one of my major problems is the fact that I exist, so if that problem went away then I wouldn't be suicidal because I would have never been brought into existence to begin with.

 

[ForgottenAgain]

I'm not sure, if all my problems disappeared then I think I could be content with life. However, I also struggle with not seeing meaning in life. If that wasn't magically fixed, I think I'd still be unhappy but not enough to be suicidal, I think.

I'd still come here nonetheless, I like the website and the community.

 

[Namelesa]

I think getting rid of my problems would only push back my suicide date as eventually I will have done everything I wanted in life and so would see no point to continue this repetitive boring existence for any longer. My problems with life are partial existential.

Same as some people here, I would still interact with this site even if I recovered and didn't have any major problems as I only feel like I belong here compared to other online sites.

 

[Red Moon]

I would still be suicidal even if my problems were fixed because past bullying and trauma is still on my mind and I can't delete it from the brain.

I also would just be participating in endless consumerism and capatilism just to make those greedy CEO's, shareholders and governments richer.

I find living kind of pointless, meaningless and boring and I don't want to get into old age either. Things are going to get worse for me also if I continue to be here.

 

[goodbyeapollo]

My biggest reasons to CTB are incurable illnesses. If I could walk and run like an able-bodied person would I want to end my life? Maybe. I don't know.

That's not to invalidate the pain of mental illness. Depression is a real disease - I have that too. Grief, loss, and loneliness are emotions painful enough to make death seem attractive. But personally? I think if I had my health I'd give this existence another try.

 

[happier than ever]

my mind would probably create more non existent problems

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's hard to know really. It's difficult to entirely believe in a different life as a different person. I suspect I'd end up back here again though. I've tried multiple times to start my life again. I just don't have the energy for all that now.

 

[-nobodyknows-]

Really depends on your definition of "problem". Is not having certain things in your life that you really want but are not really "necessities" (eg friends, relationships) considered a "problem"?

 

[divinemistress36]

my mind would probably create more non existent problems

True. We always think we will be happy if we have such and such but the mind will always find something wrong

 

[onlyforever1]

absolutely not, if I was a normal size everything would be fixed and I would finally be happy

 

[bananaolympus]

Yes if my mental, physical and neurological problems went puff, i will not be suicidal my problem is that i don't hate/dislike life my problem is that is very hard to live while suffering from those problems

 

[mikgazer6]

Same as what Lost in a Dream, FuneralCry, and Jester said. Existence itself is my problem.

 

[Izolita]

Yes I will still be suicidal

Many reasons for this.

I don't want anything from evil life or this evil world
.........

Life is an evil imposition torture slavery prison

Even if your worse problems get solved. There will always be the chance of something else horrible happening to u or the same problems returning. Suffering problems sickness disease pain injustice parasites oppression old age unfairness and many other horrible nightmares are inherent parts of this evil world and evil life.

there are many other reasons that sit on top of those above.

there is no way to undo horrible things that happened in the past to you so the memories trauma the memories of the unfairness will always be there . the only thing that will get rid of all nightmares that happened or could happen is non-existence forever. the only thing that will undo all evil is permanent non-existence.

non-existence forever is the only gaurantee of never suffering extremely, the only guarantee of no pain, no sufferring, no bad memories , no problems , no work , no 1000 other hells.

you work 15 hours per day a job chores only to exist under threat of extreme torture . only to exist to get old and suffer the torture of old age and watching yourself decay. there is pain so bad one minute of it makes everything else meaningless. there is no purpose to work so hard only to exist under threat of extreme torture.

they made this world an even worse prison by making guaranteed suicide methods into crimes like someone helping you with suicide they made it a crime . so we are all prisoners

what is worth the worst pain? think of putting your hand on a red hot stove . the unbearable searing excruciating pain. how long could you hold your hand there pressing against red hot metal? i couldn't stand 1 second of that pain. what if you couldn;t pull it away and was forced to leave it there? what is worth 1 minute of that pain? 1 hour? what about all of your skin not just your hand against red hot metal as in the Brazen bull torture? what is worth 6 hours of that constant unbearable pain. yes the torture mechanisms caused it but it is that the brain is capable of producing such pain that is the horror the problem. if my brain was destroyed they could put my body all day on the burning metal and i wouldn't feel a thing cause id be dead and non-existent. see so the problem is that i'm alive and that horrible things can happen to me. and nothing is worth even 1 minute of the brazen bull torture much less days , months years which is possible . is a sandwich a youtube video worth that? No. who would trade 6 hours of watching youtube videos "enjoying" yourself for 6 hours of the brazen bull torture ? not me .

life is meaningless suffering. i see no reason for why i have to live another minute. nothing matters. what will matter in 150 years? what will matter in 10,000 years? in a trillion years? nothing. when i think about it logically the only things that matter to me are avoiding unbearable pain and my suicide asap

there is no reason to live even if didn't know i'm just cells, chemical reactions and a brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain. but knowing i'm chemical reactions what possible purpose? i see none

personally i feel every minute i continue in this hell i condone the evil imposition the evil done to me the slavery , every time i engage in ridiculous pleasure habits addictions like youtube news social media i condone all the evil i listed above and more i haven't written in this post or anywhere on this site.

only eternal non-existence wipes out all the evil for me and prevents any future suffering. only non-existence forever is the only perfection.

Sometimes things stuff can be too difficult to recover from after the damage is ddone

 

[Rymrgand]

If literally all my problems disappeared, then no, I wouldn't be suicidal. Like, if that happened, we all would live in an utopia, in a perfect world, since one of my problems is the state of the world. There would absolutely no reason to die. Maybe I would be okay dying or wouldn't care too much about living, but I wouldn't be actively looking for death.